Published: 16 Dec 12 12:40 CET | Print version
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In the wake of the tragic school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, Swedes are discussing whether or not to introduce national security guidelines for Swedish schools.
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Yes, the children recognized me and yes, after a while the children's teachers were able to recognize me but I do not think that these two "safety guards" are enough. I would be more than happy to sign the children I babysit out of fritids everyday.
It is possible that this is simply a matter of logistics, but I have yet to visit a school where there was a check-in point I had to go through in order to reach the children of the school. I am not suggesting metal detectors or x-ray machines, but just a place where a record of those who visit the schools is kept and can be referred to for any reason.
But, to be frank, these are all measures that we have at most schools in America and look what happened.
I am glad you came to the right conclusion at the end of your comment.
Prevention is much more important than trying to take crazy measures.
And with prevention I mean being carefull with how you regulate weapons, and spend much time and money helping mentally ill people.
The bottom line is the gunman was a coward and took the cowards way out.
You don't really understand a lot.
I don't know who coined the saying about guns don't kill people but its stupid, I don't think this killer would have managed strangling 26 people to death.
The gunman wasn't a coward....the gunman was completely insane; things liks cowardness or braveness or reason don't come into play with the completely insane.
I rather live in a society that tries to prevent these things by having a good system to support people with mental illness or people that are suicidal than a society that things everything can be solved by legal guns.
In connecticut guns were legal, but somehow it didn't really help a lot to save these children did it?
THANKS TO sweden's equality and high tax system which feeds each and everyone (those who work or don't work), and as a result ppl enjoy freedom, no fear.
THERE IS NO THREAT TO SWEDEN! But if sweden followed American way of life-style, then things can/will happen here too and ppl'll regret then.
1. guns should be legal and every sane person should be able to own and carry a gun if he/she so chooses
making guns illegal is just going to encourage the black market and people that want a gun are always going to be able to get it regardless of how its regulated, the point is to enable law abiding citizens the ability to have a gun
2. proper regulation needs to be in place and strict checks conducted before anyone is authorised to own or carry a gun
- there should be a compulsory psychologycal exam
- the person should go through training to be able to properly handle the gun he wants to own and to be able to accurately use it, if you don't know how to safely handle a gun and don't know how to shoot it straigh you should not be allowed to own a gun
- there should also be full background checks
- the person should also have a secure place to store the weapon when not being carried or used, so that it can't be stolen or misused by someone in the absence of the owner
- the bottom line is everyone should have a right to carry a concealed weapon, BUT there need to be strick regulations in place to prevent anyone unstable from getting anywhere close to a gun, it wont solve all the problems but it will limit the number of news stories reading 'insane person shot up a school, cinema..etc'
- There should also be widely available public shooting ranges, where a member of the public can go rent a gun, a shooting lane, and do some target shooting after a brief safety intro; I hate that there are virtually no shooting ranges like this in Sweden.
It is not necessary because Sweden has a fairly good health service for the mentally ill. It is not necessary because access to firearms is limited, access to automatic assault rifles is almost impossible, and people who are allowed firearms must store them in a secure place.
The combination of these measures means the number of assaults with a firearm on a Swedish school stands at …….. zero.
It's this sort of thinking that has lead to all the gun crime in the US.
People shouldn't need guns, full stop!
Other countries manage very well without it's citizens having to arm themselves.
The more guns there are out there, the more people will be killed.
There's no debate about this!
Until that happens, we will have massacres every year.
America is so paranoid that poster like Will1 can argue that the solution is to arm everyone, and still be regarded as sane. The American debate about freedom somehow centres on gun ownership while at the same time restricts womens right to control their own bodies.
Guns exist to scare, intimidate and kill and have no place in functional society.
There are multi millions of poor white trash in the USA that have been brainwashed into the christian mentatlity and the god and country rubbish. Millions whos only education is how to kill and now they find themselves back in the USA. Uneducated, poor and homeless surrounded by multi millions of nutters also armed to the teeth and people wonder why this is happenig. Its only when you get 4 or more murders in one go it even makes the news anymore. The USA is a war zone where 2.5 million people are in jail and the same number recently released. where the correction system is about to be entirely privatised. With those measures in place crime is still spiralling out of control and the poor are getting poorer.
Id say you will be seeing a civil war there soon enough.
you can have a gun at 16. can go and murder as many people as you can in another country at age 17. cant drink alcohol until 21 and cant smoke pot at all.
what a country. they deserve all the pain they get . How anyone can think its a great place is beyond me.
If you agree with that than you agree that Bombs, Grenades and Missile launchers don't kill people either.
Yet, they are banned in the U.S.
I know the second amendment allows the right to bear arms.
And organize a militia to fight off the british.
When the constittion was written there were no auotmatic weapons.
I think we are good nowadays. We have now a military and a police force.
Automatic weapons should be banned in the U.S. with the exception of Police and military.
If they were eventually it would be harder for the criminals to get them also.
It is a billion $ business in the states though. Too many in circulation.
And far too many problems.
China has no guns available but has several attacks each year on school children by homicidal sociopaths - with knives, axes, hammers, cleavers, etc.
The deadliest school attack in the US killed 77 children - in 1927 - without a single gun.
Mass assaults with guns usually happen in 'gun-free zones' - Anders Behring Breivik for example.
In Israel, where schoolteachers are often Israeli Army Reservists and required to keep their weapons in arm's reach at all times, the schools do not get attacked. Anti-Israeli terrorists prefer to attack the school buses with children and not teachers.
Fully automatic weapons are already strictly licensed by the US Government even police departments have trouble getting them. Semi-automatic weapons are not so tightly controlled. (John D: If you don't know the difference then you need to learn the difference before you speak up again.)
The problem is not the guns and it is not the society. It is the crazy people.
You need prevention AND preparedness.
The only thing that will stop a madman with a gun is a sane, trained man with a gun.
I wonder, if in 1927, there were also economic conditions that led to a grudged society, and I wonder, if they had access to guns like they do now - would it have been differrent then?
20 million children currently live beneath the poverty level in the US. 12 million people in the UK also currently recieve foodstamps. But the UK dont have a gun problem because you just cant easily get guns or bullets.
Another good point to think about, is teachers and learning instuitions with guns around surely leads to the normalisation of "killing tools" into a childs life. Israel, has proven itself to be a very agressive democratic country in the past 10 to 15 years. Sweden is not. America, well, you have been.
Even Rupert Murdoch tried to bankroll General Patreaus for the last election as a Republican Nominee in very clear recordings broadcast through American newsoutlets (and largely ignored - but see the Guardian in the UK for more info on this). Having a general as an American president is also slightly agressive. Thankfully Patreaus wouldnt do it for fear of losing his wife. Some sanity still prevails!
Finally, I think we all want the same thing for our children. But guns are not the answer and unfortunately once the genie is out of the bottle like it is in the US with a lack of gun control - then these problems are evident. Australia clamped down on guns 20 years back - and they dont have the same problems although they are economically OK these days.
I dont have a soluition. But gun control has been proven in many, many instance to help provide a saner, safer environment for a discussion to occur than not.