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Ignorant politicians have allowed a vocal minority of the Swedish Muslims who don’t want to adapt to life in a secular and democratic state to dominate the debate about calls to prayer at Sweden's mosques, argues contributor Nima Gholam Ali Pour.
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"f the call to prayer is allowed, what happens to Persian-Swedes who associate it with torture in Iran? What will it mean to women who have fought tooth and nail to get away from honour cultures and associate the call to prayer with patriarchal oppression? "
Sadly enough, militant swedish feminists are not likely to understand this.
Islamophobes see any accommodation, such as foot baths for mandated ablutions as a concession to creeping shariat and a danger to the supremacy of US law. This vocal minority has a political and religious agenda to marginalize Muslims from society. Religious diversity should be encouraged as enriching society and not dividing people. Peace to all.
Ameer Raschid
USA/ Turkey
If this were the case , then maybe people would be more tolerant of it, but it is not a case of " someone shouts a few words outside of a building and then goes inside and prays" is it!
You are free in my eyes to follow whichever out dated spiritual mumbo jumbo you choose to. I just don't want to have to share any part of it with you. This goes for having to hear a call to prayer, however many times a day, as well as having to tolerate the damn bells from the christian version of a call to prayer. It is all just unnecessary noise pollution to me.
Islamophobes see any accommodation, such as foot baths for mandated ablutions as a concession to creeping shariat and a danger to the supremacy of US law. This vocal minority has a political and religious agenda to marginalize Muslims from society. Religious diversity should be encouraged as enriching society and not dividing people. Peace to all those who do not oppress and act justly.
Ameer Raschid
USA/ Turkey
"The majority of Muslims are sensible enough to use digital devices for the call to prayer, rather than waking up the entire neighbourhood.". Well, this guy has probably never visited paris for sure...in Paris these mus don't wake up entire neighborhood anymore, they're just simply taking over entire neighborhood now, they block the entire neighborhood and use the public streets as their mosques. Yip, these mus have a lot of respect for the countries that adopted them, and we, believe me, we're just love to have you mus here. You are too precious to us, and believe me you deserve more much much more!!! So just kindly wait ok???
welcome to Cold Hell
--Barack Obama
Here's another good quote by B.H.O.:
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." -at the United Nations, September 25, 2012
Soon Europe will be covered with mosques, but mostly big American box stores and other bits of globalism.
By 2100, Sweden will be mostly broken-English speaking, Swedes will be in a minority in their own land.
Sweden is abolishing itself.
Also I love my quiet home to be totally silent, not interrupted by any other sound but nature as it's intended by our mother nature.
However, I hear the church bell every Saturday at the same time, without fail. I hear this also when there is death or some nuptial going on. I think they sound really nice. I think it adds some colour to my day, although it's not the sound of a woodpecker or some swans.
When I was in a Muslim country, the sound of the prayer was nice to my ear. When I visited India, the sound of their Hindu temples also was unique, much longer than the church bell.
I just think there should be freedom of religion, expression to everyone. How the group or person make use of the freedom is another issue. I understand it can be quite rude especially if it is too loud, in the middle of the night. But the calling for prayers are 5 times a day, dawn, noon, close to evening, sunset & one final one, very close after sunset. It doesn't have to be too loud. It does not have to be screaming, soothing instead..
Name the muslim countries where there is freedom of religion, where adherents of any religion are allowed to freely proselytize?
I don't care or mind Muslims, but I don't want to have to be forced to listen to their religious stuff unless I go to a mosque.
You're in Sweden!
There's a reason you had to move, and Sweden was a better choice than where you were, so don't try to change us or our country!
#20, "there are many churches in muslim countries and there bells ring as well.". What countries are those...bullsheetkistans?
It speaks volumes.
As any parent knows, when your kids attempt to make a point about something they think is important, it's best just to nod your head and say "That's very interesting." No matter how stupid their dissertation is, you shouldn't crush their dreams if they show some talent, however pointless. I'm very happy this article was posted, I found it very interesting.
more changes to their cultures,customs and etc as time goes by and I wonder
if it's good or bad.I just hope that Scandinavian countries preserved their thousand
years of history and all their great Viking customs and cultures and be strict to
those who wants to change and imposed their customs and cultures in beautiful
Sweden as well as in Scandinavia.
Now the issue: In my opinion, foreigners have to adjust to swedish laws and abide by the rules. I like azan myself but since we are in a foreign country, things have to run the way Swedish society wants.
The second thing is that this decission should be made by the local community of that area and not just a panel of 6 people.
As long as the calls to prayer are subjected to the same standards as other environmental noises (the ringing of church bells included), then I personally have no problems with them. So if someone thinks they are too loud, they can complain about the noise.
Objecting to the calls to prayer on the grounds that Christian or other religious calls to prayer in another country is proscribed so therefore the muslim call to prayer should be proscribed is, in my opinion, a vapid and illogical statement - if I visit North Korea, I do not expect to be able to walk out in the countryside and have random conversations with the locals. I do not expect to be able to access all internet pages when I visit China, and when visiting Saudi Arabia, I do not expect to be left alone with a woman I am not related to. When people from those countries come to visit Sweden, they might expect the same cultural norms they are used to at home to apply in Sweden, but I see no reason why I should limit myself in the same way those people do, so I explain the differences to them, and if they choose not to accept those additional freedoms, that is their choice.
this article is okay,but i am not having any problem with learning the swedish language,but the only problem i am having is the govt not supporting me just because i am married,i am going to the sfi but it is hard to learn with empty pocket,but still yet i am still struggling to learn it ,it is for my own benefit,Mr America wake man you are not in New York.
welcome to Cold Hell
Why should the Swedish government support you? Get a job... I never got a penny when I moved here instead I brought money from the UK where I worked up funds, I then studied SFI and then Grundläggande for a while but found a job in Denmark in the end which is now where I work,. If you even have two brain cells there are jobs around if you can be bothered to look...
And i do hope I don't hear the call to pray here. If I do i'll just have to open my windows and play heavy metal at full blast.