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Do we still have to define adulthood as wanting to have children, asks freelance writer Tomas Hemstad who fled Stockholm's middle class offspring boom for Berlin where childless adults are treated with respect.
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Regarding the comment " I'd like to see that adulthood isn't synonymous with parenthood." In view of the need to produce a younger generation to keep the society going it should be fairly synonymous.
Maybe it's a bit much to call them smug but I have noticed more than a few of new parents seem to pity anyone who hasn't had kids. But to be fair I was equally unbearable when I first got into a serious relationship, pitying all my single friends, which was pretty patronizing now I look back on it. We all need to be a bit more open minded when people decide to do something different. Unfortunately, in Sweden, being different is much harder than in most European countries and not wanting a family in this country does make you different.
If the West starts to generate fewer children as the result of a growing cultural phenomenon, and if the West can live with the financial consequences of a pillar shaped age distribution, then this is not all bad for the planet or for society, particularly if the birth rate reduction is by choice.
And making this change by choice is in fact better than what is occuring in China, where the forced one child policy is leading to an increasing shortage of girls as a result of adoption exports, and other less pleasant alternatives.
"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
I wouldn't say for whatever reason. Lets say two men have responsibilities, one is shirking his responsibilities and being lazy and borrowing money from his parents, the other one is taking care of his responsibilities and making a life for himself. The latter is both more "adult" and more admirable.
C.S. Lewis was talking about something else entirely. He was talking about pretensions. For example, the pretension that folk tales stops being interesting when you're older, or cartoons stop being entertaining. In one of his books, he mocked the idea that wearing makeup and looking to attract boys is more mature than going on fantastic adventures.
I don't think you need to have children to be adult, or even have a partner to be adult. I have to say that I think *some* of the attitudes behind wanting kids to be childish in a bad way. For some people they just have other things in mind for their life that would take away time from raising children, which is fine. That's not childish at all, never mind in a bad way. For other people, however, they don't have other things in mind for their life, they just have a kind of self-centered attitude and couldn't think of themselves devoting time to raising children. That is childish in a bad way.
Having children is the single most most unselfish act in the world. I'ts not that your friends turn their backs on you, for the most part, they have no other life than their children, not even for themselves. In other words, they give everything to their children.
As an aide. Germany has a naturally shrinking demographic (-0.5% pa). On the odd occasion the population grows, this is solely due to immigration. With a childless Head of State, it's not surprising birth rates are down.
It may be a shocker but life doesn't end after children. Shockingly, many of us actually continue to have fun, get wasted sometimes and have social lives even after suffering the horrific burden of child rearing.
Your self absorption is really going to bite you in the butt later when you're the lonely creepy old guy lurking around the club and the rest of us are busy taking our adult kids to dinner to badger them to pop out grandkids.
population of Stockholm: 2.1 million
it was a nice read but not shocking that the writer found more like minded people in berlin.
What your article seems to be expressing is more a general feeling that the city has changed away from you and has in some way been taken from you. And you have decided to single out parents and children to blame.
Fine. You left. And I must admit that Stockholm's gentrified conformity makes the cheap rents in bohemian Berlin tempting. Easy living for freelance culture people with external income sources. Nice.
Wait a year or two though and when your funky, rundown neighbourhood (read cheap) follows the same process of gentrification and wealthier hipster-wannabees move in and push up the rents. Maybe then you'll be able to understand the feeling which Berliners do now after the recent influx of Swedes and others who have moved to their city and claimed it as their own.
In the meantime, enjoy the ride and enjoy the feeling of smug satisfaction that viewing Sweden from the outside so often seems to evoke among its expats.
The breeder-woman are dependent on the state for survival, because many Swedish men are Peter Pans. They won't grow up and assume the responsibility for their (often several) families. We are indoctrinated to accept single mothers and fatherless children as the norm.
After the first frantic few months of parenthood, one's 'pre-parent' friends are vital in helping a person stay in touch with the person they really are, particularly when one is up to one's eyes in nappies.
One's children are at home for only 18 years of the average 80 year life - not so much really. And of those 18 years, only a few are all-consuming. Would the author feel the need to drop his hetero/gay friends if they had to care for an elderly parent or a sick partner? It would seem callous, and yet he has no issue with dropping friends when they become new parents and have to give the majority of their attention to a new baby.
What a needy man! I imaging his friends must be happy to be dropped.
Life is full of phases and priorities are ever-changing. By the age of 30 tyhe author should have realised this.
Research show - Falling in love costs you friends
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11321282
Spot on.
This rant is the product of some subconscious realization on the part of the author that he's edging towards being oldest person in the club while everyone else moves on with their lives and there's absolutely nothing he can do about it.
Sad really.
More generally, what disturbes me in the article is that it is yet another article defining a minority, and selling elements of such minority as victims of our society, so insensitive to their nature.
Change your name to Mr Garrison, and buy a hand puppet called Mr Hand. Mr Hand will never let you down.
Reproduction is the primary task for any lifeform. The thwarting and denigration of the propagation of the species is what has been constructed socially. Given that the hipster element is dedicated, according to their rhetoric, to preserving and appreciation the natural world: organic food, indigenous culture, global warming, bottles of spring water and all the rest, it's rejection of the most obvious of all natural processes is amusing.
We can see from the empty cradles and cathedrals of Europe, that the extinction of European culture is in the offing. It's the simplest thing in the world: if you have reasoned yourself into a position where you abjur the most fundamental of all biological functions, then you deserve the extinction you court.
"Them not busy being born are busy dying."