Papa don’t take no mess
As I pointed out quite some time ago, and this I know from my studies, that on the whole the Turks and Turkey
have been good to the Jewish people
There are a few weird instances in the history of that relationship such as the false Messiah Sabbatai Zevi of Izmir who, upon finally arriving at the court of the Sultan in Istanbul was given the stern choice of either accepting Islam or facing execution at the sharp edge of the sword.
” Ok Mr. Messiah, either you accept Islam or you die !”
He accepted Islam. The despair among his followers was mainly suicidal. The ultimate explanation of Zvi’s apostasy – as understood by his still faithful adherents was that he must first descend into the very depths of hell by accepting Islam, to redeem some sparks from there, before ascending again. Something like that.
Of course, the Social Democrat’s Mona Sahlin in her capacity of future Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affiairs is more strident in battle against Prime Minister Erdogan and the people of Turkey than she has been against her anti-Semitic Mayor Ilmar Reepalu of Malmö, which is in Sweden’s Deep South.
On Sunday when I get round to concluding ” Great Sweden and Mighty Turkey” I will translate the complete interview with Mr. Bagis – as that will bring greater clarity to the discussion, with words coming from the horse’s mouth – and not just from Mona Sahlin’s.
The idea of “Transfer of Population” has been bandied around as a part solution to the Palestinian problem. It has its pros and cons
N.B: The great Jay Jay Okocha is a Turkish citizen
What could cause xenophobia to circulate as a virulent national virus and for that spirit of xenophobia to be directed to a select group in Turkey – the Armenian people as the target?
Such is not the case in Turkey.
Should the Turkish people feel guilty about what the Swedish Parliamentary Resolution accuses them of having committed about a hundred years ago – when the proposed joint commission of Armenian and Turkish authorities have yet to open up all the archives ( including the ones in Boston which the Armenian historians have not made available to non-Armenian historians, especially not to Turkish historians?
Deportation
Looking at this matter dispassionately ( that no one is an alien – and deportation is an ugly word and an ugly act, when one considers the history of deportation, mass deportation is a reprehensible act , then the mass deportation of Armenians who are presently welcome to stay and have been enjoying permanent residence there – in Turkey – would also be reprehensible, especially as a reaction to the Swedish Resolution.
Deportation of Armenians
In my opinion, Mona Sahlin is talking ”klarspråk” in responding to what she believes are the Turkish Prime Minister’s intentions.
However I have another understanding of his remarks (Turkey’s Prime Minister) and what I understand him to mean is this:
” Looka here: you guys are telling us that we are a nation of Muslim demons and that we exterminated one and a half million Armenian Christians in cold blood. This is far from the truth.
Today we have 170,000 Armenians living amongst us. 70, 000 of them have become Turkish citizens. Think about that. And 100,000 of them are living amongst us and have been living amongst us without naturalizing – and if Turkey was in fact hostile to Armenians in the manner that you want to suggest, then they could have been expelled from Turkey a long time ago. We have the authority to expel them as persona non grata – and could do so if it became necessary. But that is not our intention. We intend to improve Turkish-Armenian relations and that’s what we’ve been trying to do for quite some time now -it’s just that these kind of Swedish Resolutions ( passed by the Swedish opposition parties) are not being very helpful in trying to achieve that goal. We are grateful for the sympathy and understanding that we are receiving from our friends Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt and Foreign Minister Carl Bildt who have promised continued support for our application to join the European Union.”
I do not think that Mr Erdogan was issuing a threat or that what he said could be construed to mean that he was going to deport anybody, or everybody – except of course perhaps some trouble makers who would or could want to foment trouble for the Turkish State in order to create more problems for Turkish entry into the European Union.
The Kurdish problem is still a very relevant one, considering that FIVE Kurdish members of the Swedish parliament voted for the resolution, and that includes three who broke ranks with their own party, in order to do so. It’s been perceived in certain quarters that the Kurds also bore some reponsibility for the alleged genocide of Armenians during the first world war and that the Kurds have apologised for the atrocities that they have been accused of having perpetrated.
I should like to add that according to my reliable source, it is extremely doubtful that the Kurds are going to vote for the Social Democrat Party, for the simple reason that at their Congress the Social Democrat Party apparently had come to a common understanding and agreement that genocide had been committed against the Kurdish people too and that the Kurdish people had been decimated by 250,000 souls but that when it came to including the Kurdish people in the Parliamentary resolution, the Social Democrats refused to do so and “limited” the Resolution of genocide as having been only genocide perpetrated against Armenians, Assyrians/Syrians, Chaldeans and Pontic Greeks only – and refused to include the Kurds as victims.
The Nationalist Kurds are angry. Nearly all Kurds are nationalists or nationalisitic, and in their souls, long for a Kurdistan that they can call their own.
The Social Democrats are perhaps taking a calculated risk , that what they lose of the Kurdish vote they can gain from the Arab vote and the vote of other minority groups which are less homogenous. As far as winning the elections are concerned, it’s a question of numbers – and the reality is that you can’t win them all.
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SHALOM
Pre -weekend news:
Peace in the Middle East
I wish everyone a happy weekend…
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