Comments on: Going out with Stockholm guys. A runway show.

By: askin ozcan

askin ozcan — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:22:10 +0000

Truly intellectual and cultivated people with well-developped selves and interests and secure social connections , “fashion” is of no importance. Clean, simple,
comfortable, tasteful clothes are sufficient. I think those
who lack developped inner values search for a compensation
in “extreme” fashion. I have seen very many university professors, scientists, artists of world recognition, with a hole in their sweaters or unironed shirts or trousers.
Askin Ozcan
Architect and author of
STOCKHOLM STORIES, WISDOM IN SMILE, THE SECOND VENICE,
LIGHTNING AND A BOUQUET OF ROSES, SMALL MIRACLES , THE MINI-SUBMARINE.

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By: Mr. Puppy

Mr. Puppy — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:06:28 +0000

Simon, you’re just rude. This is a style and fashion blog, not the main page of The Local. If you don’t have something to say about the content of this article, why did you come here and read it? Why did you even click on Mareike’s blog headline if you knew you were going to be dissatisfied with its lack of political commentary? Some poeple come to Mareike’s blog hoping to escape the unpleasantness that has come to characterize the rest of The Local, but you prove that The Local is an unpleasantness magnet, it’s unescapable on this site… it will find its way into every nook and cranny. Are you proud to have contributed to that?
Dan, you don’t really get that some guys express themselves in dress differently than other guys. The guys who are dressing up like magazine models are just expressing their own interest in clothes and fashion, just as your own clothes express your lifestyle, wherever you may find yourself. Nobody is telling you, or anyone in Sweden, to change your regular clothes to something you’re not comfortable in. I myself break all the fashion rules in Sweden because I’m lazy and like comfortable clothes.

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By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:04:03 +0000

Andrea,

1. I believe we are on an Internet blog, which means by definition we will get an International audience.
2. The blogger is talking about men’s clothing, style is kind of International, so the topic probably effects me more than you (I’m a man), unless by implication you are one of those women who shave.
3. Business takes me to Sweden, can’t help it. I refuse to wear those clothes. Skin tight jeans, rainbow shirts, ladies skarfs, that’s in my girls closet, not mine.
4. If Gay men dress very mail in Sweden, I advise you guys copy them (for somebody ranting on about right wing nuts you are pretty homophobic).
5. Men’s clothing, should be what expresses him, not something he wears, because he is trying t look like something in a magazine. Why pretend to be something you aren’t? My clothes express a certain Lifestyle, whether running around a Saudi dessert orchatting up some girl in a Danish bar, my clothes don’t change for the natives.
6. The point of my post was traditional men spend more time keeping their girl happy, not standing in front of mirrors trying to look like a gay model.
7. My friend (a Swedish male) who is not an effiminate Fop forwards articles to me that he thinks will get me commenting, I do the same to him.
8. There are things you can do to relieve stress other than be a hag or a homophobe.

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By: halyl

halyl — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:52:48 +0000

@Simon: I bet you are OMG-I-have-to-change-shirt-again kind! Can’t blame you swedes…”I bet that you look good on the dance floor”. Don’t be so hard on her. I believe if Mareike was constantly discussing about Sweden’s politics one would be saying something like: “it’s not your business!”.. Personaly, I don’t know to what extent one living in another country should(n’t) be involved in such a thing…and talking about fashion male swedes is so much fun! cheers

@Sara
“Sarah says:
November 30, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Ah Sweden�. where the women are beautiful, and the men are too!”

I Totally agree

cheers

@Andrea
“Andrea says:
November 30, 2009 at 11:16 pm
@ Sarah

A lot of the men in Sk�ne are not that good looking. A bit further north is a lot better”

I must say I never notest that unprettyness there in Sk�ne…or maybe it happened that I just met Stockolmits and others who happened to be down south those days!or does it has anything to do with the flag colours? just wondering…

cheers

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By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:37:10 +0000

@ Simon & nsp,

She has a simple choice dioscuss inane things and have a pleasant conversation.

Tackle serious issues in Sweden, which if going by the comments on the local, will be like a war zone, populated by lunatics commenting who are not even in Sweden or Europe for that matter.

A lot of the commentators on the local are unhinged conspiracy theory right wing nut jobs from the USA. I can understnad anyone not wanting to engage with them.

Also on occassion, I do personally like to drop into a place which is friendly.

Andrea

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By: nsp

nsp — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:32:01 +0000

@ Simon:
Do you really have only decent conversations over fika or lunch with “any substance” in this lovely country? In my experience it’s mainly “weather and rubbish” chat, so please, don’t expect discussion about politics or housing problems on a style&fashion blog….
Although I need to agree, toppics at thelocal seem to be a little off recently:/

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By: Andrea

Andrea — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:16:08 +0000

@ Sarah

A lot of the men in Sk�ne are not that good looking. A bit further north is a lot better.

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By: Sarah

Sarah — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:45:34 +0000

Ah Sweden…. where the women are beautiful, and the men are too!

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By: Simon

Simon — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:18:22 +0000

No way Mareike! What a thing!

Can’t you find anything better to observe with your glasses in Sweden than a guy changing his shirt?

Why is it that just about every article written on this site is by some bourgeois woman who’s idea of a weeks’ excitement is i) her Swedish language class ii) the date she had last night with a (wait for it..) Swede! iii) What Swedes wear or (the worst) iv) shock horror my Swedish boyfriend wants to sleep with me so ‘am I an American prude?’ (to which the answer is yes you are Yank, so sod off back to Mom and apple pie)

Is there something in the local water I wonder which makes people come over all vacant and vacuous once they are in Stockholm? No politics to report apparently (although I notice the Swedish Democrats are doing rather well),
no nothing of any substance according to the commentary.

It’s so unlike The Local’s German edition where in keeping with the land of Theodor W. Adorno and Erich Fromm the chatter is of more important matters.

http://www.thelocal.de/opinion/20091127-23563.html

Chuck the ies and their bad date problems off and get to the heart of some real issues in Sweden, they’re tedious in the extreme.

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By: Andrea

Andrea — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:53:52 +0000

@ Dan

This blog article is about Stockholm which is the capital of Sweden.

Sweden is in Europe, not the USA.

Sweden is about 5000 kilometres north-east-east of the USA. That about 3500 miles in American.

The blog entry is not about any city in the USA, where it is always a competition between the men to be percieved as the most masculine and not to have any signs of gayness.

That is why when American men travel to Europe, everyone assumes they are gay, because they look like they are going to a gay theme party at a gay pride event.

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