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Comment on Trying to prove Swedish law reduces trafficking: Garbage in, garbage out by Per Olsson

Per Olsson — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:54:44 +0000

Thank you for your insightful and important blog post. No service to those who are trafficked against their wills with false numbers and statistics. All too often people try to support a good cause with absolute bullshit, which of course does exactly the opposite.

Per Olsson
http://www.frimobil.nu
“Mobil uppl�sning”

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Comment on Women are not children – remember? Flawed ideas about improving the sex-purchase law by streja

streja — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:30:29 +0000

Well, the Swedish population supports this law with an overwhelming majority, so those who oppose should just live with it or show real proof and evidence to support their views.

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Comment on Women are not children – remember? Flawed ideas about improving the sex-purchase law by Ylva

Ylva — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:33:05 +0000

Mohottige, stealing and murder are cases of clear perpetrators and victims. Laura Agust�n is just bringing up the fact that when it comes to sex and sex work, that line between victim and perpetrator isn’t as clear as many would like to believe, as she states here:

“The enormous variety of jobs and personal histories involved cannot ethically be reduced to ideological categories: neither free nor forced describes the complicated life histories of most people who sell sex. Neither exploiter nor violent describes those of all people who buy it.”

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Comment on Women are not children – remember? Flawed ideas about improving the sex-purchase law by Mohottige

Mohottige — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:13:07 +0000

The argument “However, as the business is as old as mankind, it won�t go away if we close our eyes, introduce laws or wish �it� would just go away by educating people. It will be there, as long as there is a market, aka a (sexual) need.” does not hold. Also killing other people is old as mankind, doesn’ t mean that it should be free to kill. In a civilized society it is not allowed and perpetrators are punished.
So why should it be impossible and incorrect to forbid and punish the business who sell and buy sex?

Laura Agust�n complains about lack of proof that law against buying sex is effective. Does the laws against steeling and killing prevent steeling and killing?
If not (and it doesn’t) should we scrap the laws prohibing it?

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Comment on Women are not children – remember? Flawed ideas about improving the sex-purchase law by Insomnia

Insomnia — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:40:42 +0000

The real problem is not the physical act, it is what causes men to want to purchase sex – need for control over the woman – it is mostly a psychological need. Having watched a documentary about a brothel where clients were interviewed, it seemed that many of those men are perverted like sexual predators are, or have some real difficulties with interaction with females. Women who worked there – on the other hand – were in it due to psychological dependancy on the men’s approval. They may have started in the business due to lack of money – but could not stop when they wanted to. It is sort of like a drug addiction it seems. Both clients and the women need some help.

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Comment on Women are not children – remember? Flawed ideas about improving the sex-purchase law by Laura Agust�n

Laura Agust�n — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:40:08 +0000

dear sunflowe

the rape statistics from sweden are the product of definitional problems, as i wrote when a europe-wide study came out last year which asked Is rape rampant in gender-equal Sweden? http://www.thelocal.se/19376/20090511/

however, the presence of statistics in one area that go up when they go down in another can’t be responsibly made into a cause and effect relationship – even if it’s tempting. that’s a basic principle of research…

another reason to resist the correlating of rape statistics with prostitution statistics is that it suggests that men who can’t get a sex worker go out and rape: of which there is no evidence at all. sex worker activists deplore the suggestion that their clients are rapists.

best, laura

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Comment on Smoke gets in your eyes: Evaluation of Swedish anti-prostitution law offers ideology, not methodology by Dave

Dave — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:20:39 +0000

Sounds like the study was conducted with a preplanned outcome, which is usually an indicator that researchers were concerned that a more thorough study would not have yielded the desired conclusion.

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Comment on Women are not children – remember? Flawed ideas about improving the sex-purchase law by sunflower

sunflower — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:34:18 +0000

The swedish approach to shifting the view, of prosecuting buyers (mostly men) instead of sellers (mostly women) is certainly an interesting one. However, as the business is as old as mankind, it won�t go away if we close our eyes, introduce laws or wish “it” would just go away by educating people. It will be there, as long as there is a market, aka a (sexual) need.
What I am actually wondering is, if there are studies linked to the high numbers of rape in Sweden (which has been pointed out by the UN, or was it Amnesty…not long ago). It was also pointed out that rape investigations and respective prosecuting is too lax. One gets an idea that the latter is unfortunately very true, when following the news.
If buying sex is making big headlines and being punished, shouldn�t there be much more drastic laws for the violent side of the topic?
Of course there are so many more facets to the whole issue, but this one is just susprising me again and again.

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Comment on Women are not children – remember? Flawed ideas about improving the sex-purchase law by Kat Jones

Kat Jones — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:12:38 +0000

As long as it is the free decision of an adult to work in the trade, no government is supposed to criminalize their customers for a legal deal and thus destroy the basis of the trade. Prohibition has never succeeded, neither in the case of alcoholic drinks, pornography nor prostitution, as can be seen in the U.S., for example. Due to their bigot gender rage and fascist urge to correct anyone who disagrees, these Swedish women’s libbers have clearly overshot the mark.

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