(edit title) Another shooting in Malmo I wonder if it will effect the Eurovision? Options

[oddsock]

Sugar in bread?

[oddsock]

Another non-Ethnic Swede: The King

[Investor612]

Ah yes, Jimmie Åkesson's and Geert Wilder's hobby horse, those statistics.So immigrants are statistically more likely to commit crimes, therefore... what does this tel ... (show full quote)

Ah yes, Jimmie Åkesson's and Geert Wilder's hobby horse, those statistics.

So immigrants are statistically more likely to commit crimes, therefore... what does this tell us about immigrants? That immigrants are more criminal people than Swedes? Of course not.

A university professor is also statistically more likely to be man than a woman. What does this tell us? That women are less intelligent? Of course not.

Repeat after me:

Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.

This immigrants being statistically more likely to commit crimes than native is a common feature in almost all European countries. Does it have to do with them coming from an inferior culture, as Jimmie Åkesson would have us believe? Because they are Muslims? Well, the murder rate in Sweden is 1.0 per 100,000. Where is the centre of the Muslim world? Mecca, in Saudi Arabia. The murder rate in Saudi Arabia is 1.0 per 100,000. EXACTLY THE SAME.

The poor and less advantaged are statistically more likely to commit a crime than rich and well off people. This has been the same in every society since the dawn of time. Somebody who lives in a leafy suburb and whose parents are lawyers is more likely to succeed than somebody whose parents are unemployed toilet cleaners and who lives in a tower block. The former will get a job through connections/family and prestigious schooling. No matter how much state subsidies there are, unfortunately, that's just the way it is and has always been. There are exceptions to every rule, but it remains the rule. The native population always has difficulty accepting that they achieved what they achieved in their life only partially through hard work. Some of it was due to where they were born and who their parents are.

At the moment the poor and less advantaged in Europe are immigrants who were brought into do the worst jobs and shoved into housing estates. Because Europe is getting old and needs immigration, but is just making a total pig's ear of it. But who does society blame? The people doing their best to get by every day, the average Joe Soap.

Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation. ... (hide full quote)

What you miss is the pathology in the dysfunctional cultures/subcultures that produce so much of the crime also produce poverty. It's an effect, not the cause.

[oddsock]

When Europe was crawling around in the mud and burning witches, those cultures you talk of were inventing mathematics and algebra. If it wasn't for them, we would still be using Roman numerals. Try doing long division in Roman numerals, it's not easy.

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

"If it wasn't for them"

Agreed and understood...but that begs the retort...what have they done lately?

[Investor612]

When Europe was crawling around in the mud and burning witches, those cultures you talk of were inventing mathematics and algebra. If it wasn't for them, we would still be ... (show full quote)

When Europe was crawling around in the mud and burning witches, those cultures you talk of were inventing mathematics and algebra. If it wasn't for them, we would still be using Roman numerals. Try doing long division in Roman numerals, it's not easy. ... (hide full quote)

And today the cultures you're talking about, which are part of but do not encompass the ones I was thinking off, are slaughtering infidels, stoning women, cutting the heads off people, and at the very least are not forcefully condemning and opposing their peers who plan and commit the mass murder of innocents.

[oddsock]

Yes, yes, and who bankrolled and armed the Taliban in the 1980s?

[icedearth]

Every nation passes through a decline and peak phase stage. One day USA , China, Sweden and any nation will pass through it. Greece is an example.

[Investor612]

Yes, yes, and who bankrolled and armed the Taliban in the 1980s?

The Taliban seems to mostly confine their barbarity to Afghanistan.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend (for the time being) as old as mankind.

See the aid the allies gave the Soviet Union in WWII.