(edit title) Swedish royal family hit by fresh Nazi allegations Options

[flobalob]

Any mention of the "Religion of peace " is quickly removed from this forum. I wonder if this subject is ok ?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/eu...ns-2148787.html


Swedish royal family hit by fresh Nazi allegations

By Tony Paterson


Sweden's royal family has been rocked by a new scandal which has exposed the hidden Nazi past of the Queen's father, only weeks after its reputation was shattered by lurid disclosures about the king's secret sex life.


The latest revelations concern Walther Sommerlath, the late father of Sweden's German-born Queen Silvia. He has been unmasked by an investigative television documentary as a Nazi party member who grew rich during the Second World War running an armaments factory that had been stolen from its Jewish owners.

The disturbing revelations, made by Sweden's Kalla fakta (Cold facts) TV programme, directly contradict 67-year-old Queen Silvia's claims earlier this year that her father was not "politically active" and that the factory he ran produced toy trains, hairdryers and parts for civilian gas masks. She also denied he had taken over the factory from its Jewish owners.

However, documents unearthed by Kalla facta in Berlin and South America show that Walther Sommerlath joined the Nazi party in Brazil in 1934 – only a year after Hitler took power.

They showed that he returned to Germany shortly before the Second World War broke out in 1939 and took over a previously Jewish-owned Berlin factory that had been "Aryanised" by the Nazis.

Under Sommerlath's ownership, the plant produced tank parts, anti-aircraft guns and other items vital to the Nazi war effort.

When Silvia Sommerlath married Sweden's King Carl Gustav in 1976, Walther Sommerlath denied he had ever been a Nazi party member. A Swedish newspaper first revealed the fact in 2003, but the Queen flatly refused to respond to the disclosure at the time. She spoke for the first time about the subject in July this year, saying that although he joined the Nazi party, her father was neither politically active nor a soldier.

She has so far refused to answer questions concerning the latest disclosures about her father.

Her brother Ralf told Sweden's Expressen newspaper in a recent interview that the Queen was "terribly upset" by the documentary, which he dismissed as "lies and slander".

A statement released by Sweden's royal palace said: "The Queen has no reason to comment on the content of the programme," adding, "Of course, the Queen is sorry about her father becoming a member of the Nazi party. She first knew about his membership in adulthood. She never had the opportunity to discuss this with her father."

Last month the Swedish royal family's reputation as a model of regal respectability suffered its first devastating blow after a warts-and-all book exposed Queen Silvia's husband, 64-year -old King Carl VVI Gustav as a philanderer who attended wild sex parties abroad and in underworld Stockholm clubs while the secret police kept guard.

The book entitled The Reluctant Monarch has become an instant bestseller in Sweden. The popularity of the royal family has dropped sharply since its publication. A poll published by the daily newspaper Dagens Nyheter showed that only 51 per cent of Swedes supported the King, compared to 64 percent a year ago. Carl Gustav has reluctantly admitted to most of the book's finding and attempted to dismiss them as past events that are no longer relevant. "I have spoken to the Queen and we have decided to turn the page and move forward," he said in a statement.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/eu...ns-2148787.html

[TwoToTango]

This is the kind of fox news style bullshit that I had hoped Sweden could be relatively free off. That the queen's father was a nazi is not a secret and that she wants to downplay his involvement with that party is quite understandable. I would do the same thing had it been my father.

If you looked I'm sure you would find many people with a german heritage has fathers, grandfathers or great-grandfathers that where involved with the nazi party.

There are many legitimate critiques of the monarch. That he is not elected, that he is not allowed to have a political opinion, that he has too much/not enough power or that you think he isn't the sharpest knife in the box. The fact that his wives father was a nazi shouldn't be one of them.

[cogito]

This is the kind of fox news style bullshit that I had hoped Sweden could be relatively free off.

The source cited by the OP is The Independent, U.K., not Fox. Your obsession with Fox seems to have affected your ability to read.

[mikewhite]

Yes and I'm sure you could find someone in government somewhere whose parent was a sex abuser as well.
Does republishing these details on this forum actually help anyone or do any good ?
The pope was in the Hitler Youth as was Gunther Grass.
The Independent website is there for anyone to read should they wish

[Tennin]

I remember reading about the Swedish Queen somewhere (can't remember where), and it mentioned that her father most likely had nazi ties, but documents on her father were unavailable. The Queen had no control of what her father did with his life, so it's a bit unfair to judge her for it. Most of us don't know what our parents did in the past.

The King's sexual escapades were published this year too. Oh well, so the royal family isn't the role model family, who cares.

[philster61]

Of course he did.So did the British Royal family in the guise of ex King Edward VIII. He was Adolph's favourite. Queen Sylvia's father was a bit player in the grand scheme. He was German. Most German business men during the Nazi regime stood to profit from being part of the Nazi party.

[mikewhite]

Most German business men during the Nazi regime stood to profit from being part of the Nazi party.

I think you'll find that none of the German business men who were Jewish were able to profit in any way during the Nazi regime, but that's probably because their businesses were taken over by the Nazi ones, which became more profitable.

[nagrind]

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[Delano]

The source cited by the OP is The Independent, U.K., not Fox. Your obsession with Fox seems to have affected your ability to read.

Sorry, for bumping this old thread, but I was just reading through some older ones (call me bored), but the poster didn't say the source was Fox did he/she? The poster said "Fox styled," so it could be argued that it is you that has the affected ability to...

[BritVik]

You will always find journalists who simply live for dirt digging about about anyone above their own primitive level. it is usually about people who are not in a position to retaliate. It makes you wonder how these so-called journalists, gutter-mongers, would react if someone wrote lurid stories about them, stories that were so near the truth that they would be difficult to rebuff. I would like to see it happen quite honestly. Most of them are far from being whiter than white themselves.
In the case of the Royal Family, Swedish or otherwise, they are simply taken to the cleaners without any legal recourse available to them. This type of journalism is pure gutter press.

[*Trowbridge H. Ford*]

Couldn't agree more!

Anyone who spreads undeserved, mean treatment of persons simply better than them should get everything coming their way.

Of course, it's an entirely different matter if it is deserved, no matter who the person is.