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God this place is boring!

My thoughts.

Svensksmith
post 6.Dec.2013, 03:16 PM
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I agree, Seamus. Sweden turned out to be much different than I had anticipated. Not necessarily in a bad way.
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trumanshow
post 6.Dec.2013, 05:15 PM
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Joined: 8.Aug.2012

Unless you are moving with a partner or for a good career move, it is unlikely that you would undertake moving to another country unless there was something missing in your life that you felt you couldn't find at home. Unfortunately these things tend to follow you around and its disappointing not to find it somewhere else. If loneliness is your problem, then Sweden may not be the best place. If you want to be left alone and you just want to explore nature then it is probably a good choice.
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Alba Bhoy
post Yesterday, 15:44
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I enjoyed reading this thread so I had to register and reignite it

I've been in Sweden for 3.5 years and I agree completely with everything the original poster says. It's extremely difficult to make friends here. Ok, I have my workmates but as soon at it hits 4pm it's all over. Which is fine, monday to thursday but for god's sake! Let's grab a beer after work at least once. You might enjoy yourself. But it is hard to bond with them when they spend their entire work breaks with their faces in their phones Or if not that then talking about money or working out... I run, but I don't go on about it all the time. Or show people photos of me running.

The only actual friends I've made that aren't related to my wife's family are an English lad I used to work with and my brother in law's former best mate. I've genuinely went from a social butterfly to a unwilling hermit.

There's a lot of good things about Sweden but I will get to them in a bit. I am ranting at the moment.

The parties suck! Now am not expecting the same parties I used to have in Glasgow, all night alcohol and social drugs fests with tremendous and sometimes live music. But I would like to go to parties with more than 10 people ESPECIALLY on Hogmanay (New Year). I got told last year that there was a big party at my wife's cousin's place. I was like... ok. I doubt it but ok... Including myself there was SIX people there and one left at 8pm!

Yeah I know, am not hanging about with the most social people because I can't find them.

I'm 33 and not a parent but when am back home my mates who are parents still manage to have a better social life than most young Swedes,

Three quick points to my Swedish friends about driving

1. You're not Michael Schumacher
2. The middle lane is for over taking, not for sitting under the speed limit.
3. The indicators, or blinkers, are so you can inform other drivers which way you are turning or which exit you are taking on a roundabout.

The system bolaget is ok. I don't have much to complain about that other than the rubbish opening times, it being closed on sunday and it being government owned. Though, it's not really cool if you get special dispensation from the EU making it ok for the government to own it as long as you allow people to order any alcohol from anywher if you're going to charge silly money for create of beer that has only come from Scotland not halfway round the world.

Also don't tut and roll your eyes at me because I bring out an unhealthy cake after my lunch. Especially when you're sticking a that horrible snus in your mouth. My point? Not every meal or snack has to be healthy. If you want the chocolate cake and custard after your dinner, take it! Don't pretend you find you fruit salad nicer.than a nice big unhealthy dessert NOBODY DOES!

This could be because I come from such a musical town Glasgow. Every night of the week all over Glasgow there are bands playing. From metal to jazz, from folk to blues, from rock to samba. It's a great city for music. The Glasgow Gig Guide is always full of interesting diverse bands and usually are cheap or completely free as they're often in pubs. Stockholm seems to lack music. It's a shame. I guess it's probably down to how much it costs for a beer in Sweden. In Glasgow if you wanted to pop out and see a jazz band on a monday night you could have a few beers and whiskies and spend about 150kr. You'd be lucky to get two nice beers for than in Sweden.

Tell the government that you are not children!!! Brew Dog beer are a Scottish brewery that's popular in Sweden and they brought out an alcohol free beer to 'have a go' at the Swedish government. It is called Nanny State. Very true.

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The good stuff!!!!

Sweden is beautiful. The small pockets of forest around the suburbs make it seem like you live in the sticks, well all apart from the noise coming from the E4 24/7 wink.gif I love walking in the woods and my dogs (also from Scotland) love it as well. Scotland is great for that as well, but way less trees and waters a bit too cold to swim in even when it's a HUGE 22 degrees in July

The weather is great, if not a bit too hot in the summer. Coming from Scotland we have rain, heavy rain and pishin down. The seasons are great. Spring and Autumn maybe a bit too short thanks to the long winters but, I like the winter. I love the snow until about February then am ready for Spring. I love it being -15 and my beard freezes biggrin.gif It's nice and fresh feeling. Not like the rain in Scotland all year round. Did I mention it rains in Scotland? It does.

Workers rights, paternity rights, education, wages are all great in Sweden. Of course we always want more and we should never settle for OK. But they are all better in Sweden than in most countries. If I was to have a child, Sweden is a great place to bring them up and educate them then after school send them to university in Scotland where they can a bit of fun and go to great a great uni.

The people are nice, I have to say. Boring, yeah. But nice. I've never felt intimidated in Sweden like I have in Scotland, even if it was all in my own mind. Just open up a wee bit more, Swedes. It's not going to kill you. Take an interest in other people. People can be interesting.

This was written with a smile and is only partly having a serious go.
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Sthlm83
post Yesterday, 17:43
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Joined: 4.Sep.2014

If you must rant, then this is how it should sound like smile.gif I'm Swedish and can totally relate to a lot of what you're writing, and you're balanced "review" about Sweden makes it so much easier to take to heart!

QUOTE (Alba Bhoy @ 20.Nov.2014, 03:44 PM) *
I enjoyed reading this thread so I had to register and reignite itI've been in Sweden for 3.5 years and I agree completely with everything the original poster says. It' ... (show full quote)


I think this is slowly changing though. Sweden, or at least Stockholm, is getting more and more "international" by the year it feels like (I have lived abroad for more or less the last decade, and every time I return to my native home town, I'm pleased to see the things I personally have had issues with slowly but steadily changing for the better).

QUOTE (Alba Bhoy @ 20.Nov.2014, 03:44 PM) *
The parties suck! Now am not expecting the same parties I used to have in Glasgow, all night alcohol and social drugs fests with tremendous and sometimes live music. But I ... (show full quote)


Yep, you said it, your hanging out with the wrong Swedes! Trust me, there's plenty (well, relatively speaking) of Swedes who party in a way you would feel right at home in (are you by any chance living in Västerort or Norrort?) But with that said, I can completely understand your frustration. Even me as a Swede find the Swedish "home party scene" a bit... hrm... slätstruken... When I lived in Australia, me and my Swedish mate would have a lot of fun every time we threw a party and someone dragged along their newly-arrived-"middle of the road"-Swede-friend just by looking at their intensely uncomfortable reactions when we rolled up a fat one right on the coffee table and even SMOKED IT INSIDE! Haha! Weed = 20$, rolling paper = 2$, the look on the face of a 20 something Swede who never been this close to anything but alcohol or tobacco but doing their best to keep their cool = PRICELESS

QUOTE (Alba Bhoy @ 20.Nov.2014, 03:44 PM) *
2. The middle lane is for over taking, not for sitting under the speed limit.


My dad, who drives Flybussarna for a living, could go on all year about this one...

QUOTE (Alba Bhoy @ 20.Nov.2014, 03:44 PM) *
3. The indicators, or blinkers, are so you can inform other drivers which way you are turning or which exit you are taking on a roundabout.


This is a "Stockholm thing" that the rest of Sweden hates equally.

QUOTE (Alba Bhoy @ 20.Nov.2014, 03:44 PM) *
Also don't tut and roll your eyes at me because I bring out an unhealthy cake after my lunch. Especially when you're sticking a that horrible snus in your mouth. My po ... (show full quote)


Well, seeing how you come from the home of the deep fried Mars bar, I think we skip the discussion about eating healthy, mate... wink.gif

QUOTE (Alba Bhoy @ 20.Nov.2014, 03:44 PM) *
The people are nice, I have to say. Boring, yeah. But nice. I've never felt intimidated in Sweden like I have in Scotland, even if it was all in my own mind. Just open up ... (show full quote)


Deep down Swedes are quite curios. It's just that in Swedish culture it's considered rude to "poke around in strangers business". I realise it has it drawbacks, and I do hope Sweden can find a good balance where we are able to respect other peoples privacy but still be a bit more open, but in the meanwhile I would enjoy not being solicited unwanted opinions and "advice" from strangers left to right, which is the drawback of the more "open" british culture (which I know all to well after two years in Sydney...) wink.gif

Anyway, enjoy the good stuff, and hopefully you will find the right people to have some fun with sooner or later!
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post Yesterday, 18:08
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Joined: 21.Dec.2006

OP made a decent post...and he is right about a lot of things...but again, it comes down to culture shock (laugh.gif).

Hard to understand/judge others when you are culturally different...you have to forget your old way and accustom to the new Swedish ways...sometimes that never happens...Good luck...
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Rick Methven
post Yesterday, 19:38
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Location: Linköping
Joined: 30.Nov.2005

Alba ohboy
You are just lucky that you arrived in the 21st century, when I first arrived in 1980 from swinging Amsterdam, everything stopped at 4pm, and socialising with Swedish colleagues just did not happen. Here in Linköping there was one bar and the systembolaget was closed from 23 December to 2nd January which made for a pretty crap hogmanay!

When I moved back in 2002 it was much more cosmopolitan, bars and music allover the place. My son is playing at a few hotel bars all the time and as a 30 year old finds life in Sweden better than it was in the UK. Swedes of your age are usually family orientated but an invite for a good old Scottish pissup/BBQ may well break the ice with work colleagues.

Sthlm83

The lack of indicator use is not just 08 but all over the country. There is a bit in the law that says you do not have to indicate if you are in a turn left/right only lane. This seems to be taken by many drivers as cart blanc to drive as if indicators have not been installed on Swedish cars.
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Sthlm83
post Yesterday, 19:50
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Joined: 4.Sep.2014

QUOTE (Rick Methven @ 20.Nov.2014, 07:38 PM) *
The lack of indicator use is not just 08 but all over the country. There is a bit in the law that says you do not have to indicate if you are in a turn left/right only lane. ... (show full quote)


Fair enough. All I know is that as a stockholmer I'm used to take shit from the rest of the country for not suing the indicators properly (although I personally use them perfectly of course wink.gif ). But maybe this is relatively speaking either way. Could perhaps to do with the low population density. Like in the Australian outback where people like to drive on the opposite side of the road just because they can... smile.gif
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Svensksmith
post Yesterday, 21:04
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Joined: 28.Jul.2011

Does the left hand, stuck out through the drivers side window, with one finger extended indicate anything?
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post Yesterday, 21:15
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Joined: 21.Dec.2006

Only if extended vertically rolleyes.gif
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