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Apple & iTunes stinks

Apple wants to control the world

Rick Methven
post 12.Aug.2012, 08:41 PM
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Location: Linköping
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Reluctantly, a couple of years ago I bought an ipod so that I could plug it into the system in my car and listen to the thousands of tracks I have on Vinyl and CD.

Yesterday, there was a blast from the past when the BBC used an old song written by Sandy Denny ' London' as the music behind a montage of Olympic medal winners. Sandy played in 2 folk clubs that I ran in the 60's and I remember her playing around with the song back then, so I tried to buy the track recorded by Thea Gilmore on iTunes.

When I found the track, it first told me that it was not available in Sweden and directed me to the US store. I could see and listen to the track but when I tried to buy it, it told me it was not available to purchase in Sweden angry.gif

What is this crap. Apple is trying to control who can do what where and when.
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byke
post 12.Aug.2012, 08:53 PM
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Location: Europe
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That really sucks.
But the reason you cant purchase it is because Apple don't have a license to sell it in Sweden.

I had a similar experience trying to find a french track by "Urbanus" a week ago ... was available in many places, but the record companies were restricting sales for it in Sweden. This debate of licensing has been more common regarding the nordic regions as of late, with some suggesting that certain music wrights owners have been deliberately restricting music to iTunes in an attempt to sure up other companies (like Spotify)

Where exactly did you hear this song ? on TV ? (what - where and when)
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 12.Aug.2012, 09:10 PM
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http://thepiratebay.se/search/sandy%20denny/0/99/0

http://www.filestube.com/s/sandy+denny
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PDX
post 12.Aug.2012, 10:31 PM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 2.Aug.2011

Indeed the complaint should be directed towards Universal Music Group and not Apple.

~~~PDX~~~
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Rick Methven
post 13.Aug.2012, 08:02 AM
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Location: Linköping
Joined: 30.Nov.2005

QUOTE (byke @ 12.Aug.2012, 09:53 PM) *
That really sucks.But the reason you cant purchase it is because Apple don't have a license to sell it in Sweden.I had a similar experience trying to find a french track b ... (show full quote)

The song was used as the backing music by the BBC for an Olympics medal montage.

Spotify does not have the album Thea Gilmore 'Don’t Stop Singing' which has the track, Amazon UK has it but when I add it to my basket and go to checkout, it is not there - the basket is always empty
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byke
post 13.Aug.2012, 08:24 AM
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Location: Europe
Joined: 28.Oct.2008

QUOTE (Rick Methven @ 13.Aug.2012, 09:02 AM) *
The song was used as the backing music by the BBC for an Olympics medal montage.

If you can find the show on iPlayer, it could be possible to get it that way.
As there are programs that allow you to download iPlayer content to your hard drive as a file.
That way you can extract the file.
Its a long winded process, but on the odd occasion when you find a very rare track ... it can be worth it.

QUOTE (Rick Methven @ 13.Aug.2012, 09:02 AM) *
Spotify does not have the album Thea Gilmore 'Don’t Stop Singing' which has the track, Amazon UK has it but when I add it to my basket and go to checkout, it is not th ... (show full quote)

I think the issue is licensing in the nordic countries (that could be the reason for Amazon to refute sales of such).
I am finding an ever increasing amount of music and content isn't licensed for scandinavia.
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AW1
post 13.Aug.2012, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE (Rick Methven @ 13.Aug.2012, 08:02 AM) *
The song was used as the backing music by the BBC for an Olympics medal montage.Spotify does not have the album Thea Gilmore 'Don’t Stop Singing' which has the track, ... (show full quote)

Strange. I just looked in Spotify and it's there.

Sandy Denny - London
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Rick Methven
post 13.Aug.2012, 09:52 AM
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Location: Linköping
Joined: 30.Nov.2005

You are not in Sweden then


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Jamtjim
post 13.Aug.2012, 10:04 AM
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Rick, have you tried using a UK VPN then purchasing the track? Amazon would think that you were in the UK and allow the purchase.

You could try a free VPN like expat shield and give it a go!
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AW1
post 13.Aug.2012, 10:45 AM
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Location: Södermanland
Joined: 20.Mar.2012

QUOTE (Rick Methven @ 13.Aug.2012, 09:52 AM) *
You are not in Sweden then.
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My bad, it was through the vpn.
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 13.Aug.2012, 11:03 AM
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AFAIK Spotify and Amazon don't use IP-adresses to restrict content; they use the credit card billing address or the location of the credit card issuer.
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John.Smith
post 13.Aug.2012, 11:25 AM
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Location: Sweden
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAKtSFXbQ-Q
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Jamtjim
post 13.Aug.2012, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE
AFAIK Spotify and Amazon don't use IP-adresses to restrict content; they use the credit card billing address or the location of the credit card issuer.

Could one simply just use a British credit card then? Problem solved?
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Shibumi
post 13.Aug.2012, 11:43 AM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 30.Sep.2010

The world's major distributors of digitally viable culture (music, films and books) have been appallingly slow to make it possible to obtain their content legally. They have totally missed the boat on this. If they had cooperated half as much on making it easy and economical to purchase their content as they have on pursuing restrictive copyright and digital rights legislation, they would still be making record profits bolstered by the profit margins on their new ability to sell immaterial goods. As it stands, they make it difficult (or even impossible) and expensive for consumers to do the right thing and are outraged that people find illicit ways to access their content anyway. Many artists are bypassing the major labels entirely now to sell straight to the consumer via internet which is a lot easier and cheaper if you don't need to burn CDs/DVDs, stock and ship them.

It's been 14 years since Napster and the majors are STILL not on the ball... Stupefying!
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 13.Aug.2012, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (Jamtjim @ 13.Aug.2012, 12:36 PM) *
Could one simply just use a British credit card then? Problem solved?

At least that's how it works in Spotify. To register for the UK version you must have a UK card, for the Swedish version a Swedish card, etc...
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