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Landlord demanding money for "destroying sofa"

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50öre
post 31.Aug.2012, 08:00 PM
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Joined: 13.Aug.2012

I don't care about bedrägeri. He needs to know what he is supposed to do. Do you know what bestrida is?
He will do bestrida when he gets letter from Kronofogden. The same will be done by her while she gets the letter from the opposite side. It will take ages for the case to keep moving and costs like hell for her if he is stubborn.
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mångk
post 31.Aug.2012, 08:05 PM
Post #32
Joined: 27.Jul.2008

????? wacko.gif
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gplusa
post 31.Aug.2012, 08:30 PM
Post #33
Location: Luleå
Joined: 4.Sep.2009

I suspect that the OP has enough brains to know not to follow some of the halfwitted advice he has been offered.
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Hamsterdam
post 31.Aug.2012, 08:36 PM
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Joined: 25.Mar.2012

If the landlord is Swedish, confrontation is the most uncomfortable thing in the world. Easy win.
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teknowaffle
post 31.Aug.2012, 08:55 PM
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Joined: 3.Mar.2011

So, basically I would like to know if there is an equivalent of a small claims court here in Sweden with a mediator or something. Because if I was still in the US and this happened, I would tell them, you take me to small claims court, and I will not communicate with you further outside of the court.

Or is there Judge Johanna here?
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mångk
post 31.Aug.2012, 09:01 PM
Post #36
Joined: 27.Jul.2008

Just make mention of hyresgästföreningen and their website!

If you explain what I have said make the above mentions and ask if the landlord would like you to contact hyresgästföreningen for clarification they will back down.

Rental disputes, which this is, are dealt with by hyresnämnden. It will cost the landlord more than what it is worth to go down that path.
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Yorkshireman
post 31.Aug.2012, 09:24 PM
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011

Don't remember seeing any answer to the question about there being a contract, and whether property owner (real landlord) or BRF approval was given for the 2nd hand rental?

It is not common to go to court in things like this, one just sends a demand/debt to Kronofogden, and they do the necessary legal stuff. It is simple, and many are afraid (for good reason) of this process. Ask the Swedes around You ... the word Kronofogden even sounds dark and evil biggrin.gif

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mångk
post 31.Aug.2012, 09:31 PM
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Joined: 27.Jul.2008

If the landlord attempts to send it to Kronofogden then the OP merely informs Kronofogden that it is a disputed rental matter (which it is irrespective of a written contract or not). Kronofogden then have no authority to involve themselves in a hyresnämnden matter.

From the kronofogden website:

"The Enforcement Authority sends a letter (injunction) concerning the claim to the party from which you wish to receive payment (the defendant). The letter contains a slip which the defendant shall fill in and return. It is proof that the letter has been received.

The person receiving the letter may react in different ways:

•The person makes the payment to you. If the entire debt is paid off you must promptly request a withdrawal of your application in writing. You must also inform us if only part of the debt is paid.
•The person writes us and objects to (contests) the debt. We inform you as such and you then decide whether you wish for your application to be passed on to the courts for further processing. If you do not wish for the courts to further the process, the Enforcement Authority will dismiss the case.
•The person does not contact the Enforcement Authority. In this case, the Enforcement Authority will issue a verdict. The verdict shall state that the defendant is obligated to pay the debt which is the subject of your claim."
http://www.kronofogden.se/Applicationforinjunctiontopay.html
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teknowaffle
post 31.Aug.2012, 09:59 PM
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Joined: 3.Mar.2011

QUOTE (Yorkshireman @ 31.Aug.2012, 08:24 PM) *
Don't remember seeing any answer to the question about there being a contract, and whether property owner (real landlord) or BRF approval was given for the 2nd hand rental ... (show full quote)

We had an official second hand contract through Akelius.
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 31.Aug.2012, 10:42 PM
Post #40
Joined: 25.Mar.2006

Did you pay a deposit or is the landlord trying to get money from you?

If it is the latter, you can simply deny. There is no way that the landlord will pursue such a small amount in court.
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teknowaffle
post 1.Sep.2012, 11:33 AM
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She is trying to get money from us, we didn't pay a deposit, only an extra 500kr a month for the use of the furniture.
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johnjohn
post 1.Sep.2012, 11:38 AM
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Joined: 10.Dec.2010

Game, set and match...you win!
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Hamsterdam
post 1.Sep.2012, 12:10 PM
Post #43
Joined: 25.Mar.2012

...but not a winner. Timewaster more like rolleyes.gif
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Puffin
post 1.Sep.2012, 12:53 PM
Post #44
Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

QUOTE (teknowaffle @ 1.Sep.2012, 12:33 PM) *
She is trying to get money from us, we didn't pay a deposit, only an extra 500kr a month for the use of the furniture.

It sounds like a money grab to me - sellers remorse - that she wishes she had tried to get more in rent or perhaps a new tennant is demanding a new sofa.

But she's not entitled to get her flat refurnished by you - the only compensation she can possible get is if there was dammage over and above normal wear and tear. Given that you have paid her 6000kr for the wear and tear on her items during your tennancy - ask her how the wear and tear exceeds this amount?

Do you by any chance no how much *she* pays in rent? If it is less that 4500 per month you could threaten to take her to Hyresnämnden for the return of your excess rent if she doesn't let this matter drop cool.gif
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