(edit title) God this place is boring! My thoughts. Options

[Skugglegend]

Well I can`t make arguments against your personal opinions or what you think. But if we can`t make arguments against eachother then it isn`t a discussion. Then it& ... (show full quote)

Well I can`t make arguments against your personal opinions or what you think. But if we can`t make arguments against eachother then it isn`t a discussion. Then it`s just an emotionally driven rant from your side on what you feel or think. You can think or feel whatever you want, but it won`t be a discussion. If you want to think that Swedes could be happier then you are free to think so. The facts say that the Swedes are already one of the happiest people on the planet;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/w...87.html#s838563

You are free to cement the disgusting myth that Swedes are suicidal if you want. The facts says it`s a myth and that the Swedes aren`t any more suicidal then any other;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...te#cite_note-16
http://ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=39498&l=en

Feel free to think whatever you want but emotions isn`t a good platform to stand on when discussing. It`s clear that you already have made up your mind on how things are, you just want to discuss why you think they are the way you think they are. I don`t agree with how you think things are and I suspect I won`t when you start talking about why. But do go on and write about how you feel and think, I will stick with a crowd that`s more open minded about things and doesn`t go by feelings only. It`s becoming more and more evident that you have some insecurity issue about your swedish heritage and instead of working with your self esteem you turn to people with other nationalities to find recognition. Instead of filling your head and others with negative swedish myths you should work on your confidence. Hopefully I can make your day though by yet again calling you beautiful. If that doesn`t work I guess you can go dancing, clapping and singing with your african friends. ... (hide full quote)

Haha ok...In my world I don´t think a discuss is all about you need to have facts...It can also be how you think about things from your experience. I discuss a lot of things with my friends based in experience or my opinion and that makes discussions interesting for me too. If not for you...ok I respect that. And living in Sweden from birth and with Swedish parents I would say I´ve some experience about how It Is to live in Sweden. Insecurity issue about your swedish heritage...haha well so you can´t have negative experience from your own home country...eh ok? I should just say then Sweden Is a paradise...end of discussion.
I like my country very much...thank you...but I also like to take part of other cultures or reflect about my own country

and working with your self esteem...come on...that was low. We doesn't discuss me as person here...ok. That I prefer to discuss with a person I know or at least IRL...not some random person at internet

[Migga]

Haha ok...In my world I don´t think a discuss is all about you need to have facts...It can also be how you think about things from your experience. I discuss a lot of things w ... (show full quote)

Haha ok...In my world I don´t think a discuss is all about you need to have facts...It can also be how you think about things from your experience. I discuss a lot of things with my friends based in experience or my opinion and that makes discussions interesting for me too. If not for you...ok I respect that. And living in Sweden from birth and with Swedish parents I would say I´ve some experience about how It Is to live in Sweden. Insecurity issue about your swedish heritage...haha well so you can´t have negative experience from your own home country...eh ok? I should just say then Sweden Is a paradise...end of discussion. ... (hide full quote)

Well we need something so our different worldviews can have some common ground to start discussing from. If not it will just be emotions and feelings from my side aswell. That`s not a discussion, that`s a chatt amongst friends. In a discussion you make arguments and counter arguments.

You shouldn`t say Sweden is a paradise, nor should you say it`s hell. But if you do you should have arguments as to why you say that. Otherwise we can`t have a discussion. If you think Swedes should be happier then make arguments as to why they should be so, how they can be happier, when, where and so on. That`s constructive and I can make counter arguments.

If you rant about Swedes being cold because you had a personal experience where you sat on the train and noone moved from their seats when an old lady enterd then so be it. What can I argue against such a statement? It`s your personal experience, I wasn`t there. If that`s the way you want it then the discussion ends before it even started.

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

On my last visit to my family I saw an older women given a seat on a bus, by a younger man, very young.

That rotten kid has done so much damage to the old cry of Swedes being cold impersonal and uncaring that I would just like to forget about it...how can a young person go against what we all know as fact that Swedes are without any kind of human expression, decency and emotion...even though he looked like a Swede, I have no doubt that he was an immigrant from one of those countries that are kinder and gentler than the inhumane Swedes...Gee, maybe he was from ????????...you fill it in.

[chazza]

Well we need something so our different worldviews can have some common ground to start discussing from. If not it will just be emotions and feelings from my side aswell. That ... (show full quote)

Well we need something so our different worldviews can have some common ground to start discussing from. If not it will just be emotions and feelings from my side aswell. That`s not a discussion, that`s a chatt amongst friends. In a discussion you make arguments and counter arguments. ... (hide full quote)

Migga, you obviously don't know the difference between a discussion and a debate. a discussion IS a chat. -

It's a DEBATE that requires argument and counter argument.

[Migga]

To me a chat is a conversation about experiences, emotions and/or thoughts. A discussion is to argue or reason. To me a discussion is more like an argument then a chat. In a discussion and argument you have two sides or two different opinions that try to convince the other. In a chat or conversation you simply converse and don`t take sides. But perhaps I was to quick to use the word arguments when I mean opinions or to reason. I can see that it becomes to formal when saying arguments and that in turn makes it more like a debate or dispute. Which is not my intent, I don`t want to dispute others.

[MetalforLife]

On my last visit to my family I saw an older women given a seat on a bus, by a younger man, very young.That rotten kid has done so much damage to the old cry of Swedes being c ... (show full quote)

On my last visit to my family I saw an older women given a seat on a bus, by a younger man, very young.

That rotten kid has done so much damage to the old cry of Swedes being cold impersonal and uncaring that I would just like to forget about it...how can a young person go against what we all know as fact that Swedes are without any kind of human expression, decency and emotion...even though he looked like a Swede, I have no doubt that he was an immigrant from one of those countries that are kinder and gentler than the inhumane Swedes...Gee, maybe he was from ????????...you fill it in. ... (hide full quote)

Accept the facts, swedes are the most robotic unemotional people on the planet.

[oddsock]

To me a chat is a conversation about experiences, emotions and/or thoughts. A discussion is to argue or reason. To me a discussion is more like an argument then a chat. In a discussion and argument you have two sides or two different opinions that try to convince the other. In a chat or conversation you simply converse and don`t take sides. But perhaps I was to quick to use the word arguments when I mean opinions or to reason. I can see that it becomes to formal when saying arguments and that in turn makes it more like a debate or dispute. Which is not my intent, I don`t want to dispute others.

And to think people say the Swedes are too serious.

[Migga]

And to think people say the Swedes are too serious.

Game. Set. Match. This comment proves my point. When I voice an opinion the loud minority here call me brainwashed, offended, upset or hint that I`m too serious. Discuss my points, don`t dismiss me to have "angry man syndrome" or force me into some victim role. It`s obvious how you see others who don`t agree with you.

[oddsock]

Well, all I can say is that I see great irony in a thread about Swedes being too serious developing into a dialogue between two Swedes about the semantics of what constitutes a discussion, debate, chat or conversation.

But I also understand from one of your Youtube links that Swedish girls sometimes live in caravans when they are on vacation, so they are not always serious.

Please note that most people here (including me, now) are talking very much tongue in cheek. If you want to be on an English speaking forum with many UK and Irish people then you'll have to get used to that. Just as we have to get used to Sweden, haha

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

Accept the facts, swedes are the most robotic unemotional people on the planet.

Your apparent jealousy is very touching...you are the epitome of a Swede wannabee!