(edit title) Having a child in Sweden Registering birth in uk and passport Options

[Brunette Babe 5]

.... We are both from England, and dont have Swedish citizenship or anything. . Thanks in advance

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[Puffin]

I think that at the heart of the US/Swedish custody problem is the difference in outlook and relationships between divorce and the court system
The US system of family law is legalistic and freqently involves the court system - it is common for post divorce custody arrangements to be taken to court for adjudication
Swedish family law is based on principles of consensualism - few custody issues are decided in the courts - the standard model for custody arrangements is that the parents should agree on custody issues without reference to the courts - the vast majority of child custody cases never reach the court

Where cases do come to court in Sweden - then the cases tend to be decided on the basis of contact and relationships with the child - ie the Swedish courts will look at
- who has spend more time with the child
- who took most parental leave
- who stays home if the child is sick
- who drops off and collects from nursery/school
The Swedish courts tend to take little account of material wealth and possessions - I know that some US poster have found it hard to understand that the courts have not automatically awarded them custody based on their income/saving despite their partner "only" being a stay at home mother or part time worker

Then there is the issue that the Swedish government are not always good and specifying legal consequenced for Breaking the law - so just because you get a legal judgement does not mean that it will be easy to enforce - it sounds bizaare but there are not consequences to ignoring court judgements in all areas - even government agencies and kommuns have often ignored court judgements because there are no consequences - hence we see a growing tendency to intorduce fines etc in social and welfare services!

However these issues do not only exist in child custody custody cases - even within child custody it is not an issue where US/foreign citizens are more disadvantaged than non-custodial Swedish parents - especially if the parents are not married

[borlin_alfred]

can I get a answer here to question? I been searching a lot about this and Sweden doesn't have childbirth right for citizenship that is clear.
However can that child become a citizen after 5 years of residence after birth in Sweden ?
if so is passport is required for baby from original nationality ??
can any one tell me ?

[Yorkshireman]

Sweden works on the basic priciple that the one thing You know for sure is who the Mother of the child is, at time of birth. So, Your child will automatically, in Swedish eyes, be a British Citizen.

Here is info on what You need to do to register the birth with the UK, You can do it at the British embassy in Stockholm, as far as I understand, and they will give You documentation that You can then take to the UK:

http
://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living...tering-a-birth

Hope everything goes well with the birth

btw... if You are resident in Sweden, and have the personnummer, then the Hospital will automatically enter the child birth into their computer system, and that gets passed automatically to Skatteverket, and within short a personnummer should be issued for the child.

[olga118]

"While our kids are fluent in both languages, when we tried to get our eldest into a English speaking school as he was unhappy with the Swedish / bi lingual school he was in. We were told that he was not allowed this since he was born in Sweden, regardless of his cultural upbringing or his residence since birth. "

That is very peculiar. I have 4 stepchildren who all went to an English speaking school, including 1 who goes there now...What is up with them denying your children?

[byke]

3 or 4 years ago, the situation was very different from today as Stockholm city decided to introduce a rule that insisted that all state and independent schools had to include at least 50% of the curriculum in Swedish. With only 1 non private school being made only available to children who's parents were working in the field of silence or on a temporary working contract. Luckily these far right policies have changed again and we are finally seeing a couple of non private international schools finally getting special licenses to help deal with the huge amount of international children needing such education. Along with a whole slew of mock English schools aimed specifically at swedish only parents who think it will give their kids an upper hand.

But at the time of when these decisions and issues first came to light. It was clear that many judgements made were irrespective of the child's needs or situation, and heavily influenced by their association to Sweden. And this is still in effect today where international children with association to Sweden have different rights to that of international children without association to Sweden in regards to education and certain subjects without the option of opting out.

[nicklonguk]

I'd add that I had a great experience with the Dusseldorf office - I got the passport sorted in 2 weeks over Christmas, sent off around the 14th and it arrived 30th December.

I the meantime I had one of the officers call me to inform me the photos weren't of a high enough quality, and could I send 2 new ones in before Christmas Eve so they could process it ASAP. Was amazed they took the time to call rather than just reject the application and take the money.

(Downside was I spent a fortune on international REK postage)

[Bender B Rodriquez]

3 or 4 years ago, the situation was very different from today as Stockholm city decided to introduce a rule that insisted that all state and independent schools had to include ... (show full quote)

3 or 4 years ago, the situation was very different from today as Stockholm city decided to introduce a rule that insisted that all state and independent schools had to include at least 50% of the curriculum in Swedish. ... (hide full quote)

I doubt this was a decision by Stockholm since municipalities (kommuner) are not allowed to make rules or laws for independent schools.

Independent schools are regulated on national level by the Department of Education (Skolverket) and inspected by Skolinspektionen. Once an independent school is allowed to operate it will be financed by the municipality according to fixed tables depending on number of students, etc. The municipality is not allowed to have any saying on the curriculum or management; that's why it is called an independent school...

Finally, there is no "state school". A school is either municipal, independent or private, indicating who runs the school. In all three cases the curriculum is governed by law on national level through Skolverket. The schools are free to focus on a speciality, e.g. athletics, religion, language, etc, but the must still follow the national curriculum for the core subjects.