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TV license to pay?

Per house?

BL
post 13.Feb.2013, 01:58 PM
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I rent a property where my tv runs off my landlord's antenna. Any idea if I need to pay tv license? Thanks
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byke
post 13.Feb.2013, 02:05 PM
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Yes you do.
Its based on household as in the usage of you or your family
Basically if you use state channels, you need to cough up.
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Yorkshireman
post 13.Feb.2013, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (byke @ 13.Feb.2013, 02:05 PM) *
Basically if you use state channels, you need to cough up.

The law does not specify which channels, it specifies that you are able to receive TV programs, regardless of which ones. So, Yes, You pay as it is a license for the household that has the device, not antenna. If you have more than 1 TV in seperate properties, you still only need 1 license. eg. city place, and country place ..just one license.

Which is actually quite interesting in itself, since taxation is individual, and there is the State sponsered individualism ... Why is TV License per household?
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jostein
post 13.Feb.2013, 11:31 PM
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Its an immoral tax for crying out loud! Just dont pay the damn thing? Just bleeding learn what lies to tell and clench your teeth and bleeding tell them? If you go along with a crazy immoral and outright oppressive thing like this, whats the next thing you will go along with? Being assigned guardduty in a concentrationcamp? Having your children confiscated by the state? That 2+2=3? Just friggin grow a pair you miserable snivelling socialists you?

And that was a rant. Cut out all the insults and maintain the meaning. But ive read two threads now with people thinking they do a good thing when they dont do some noncooperation against this monstrosity. Well, you dont.
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as8
post 13.Feb.2013, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (jostein @ 13.Feb.2013, 11:31 PM) *
And that was a rant. Cut out all the insults and maintain the meaning. But ive read two threads now with people thinking they do a good thing when they dont do some noncoopera ... (show full quote)

Oh you poor thing.

That was a quick Godwin though, well done.
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jostein
post 13.Feb.2013, 11:45 PM
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I used made up examples for clarity to illustrate when unquestioning obedience is wrong. That was all.
Did you have a point to make?
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byke
post 14.Feb.2013, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (Yorkshireman @ 13.Feb.2013, 10:56 PM) *
The law does not specify which channels, it specifies that you are able to receive TV programs, regardless of which ones. So, Yes, You pay as it is a license for the household ... (show full quote)

The law cannot stretch any further in regards to channels that are not broadcast from within its jurisdiction.
So as long as the channels are not licensed by the state, they cannot be considered as part of a collective or even defined as a TV program. As such definition has to be exclusive to the rights in which it is granted within the state it is licensed.

So if you were to watch an Albanian channel, somehow in Sweden.
Nothing is to say that it can be classed as a channel or TV program as any such broadcast and its licensing is from outside of Sweden.

Yes Television receivers would appear to be covered under local law in regards to a TV Fee.
But the term of television receiver, could not extend past anything other than the ability to receive Swedish channels.

QUOTE (jostein @ 13.Feb.2013, 11:31 PM) *
Its an immoral tax for crying out loud! Just dont pay the damn thing? Just bleeding learn what lies to tell and clench your teeth and bleeding tell them? If you go along w ... (show full quote)

Just a heads up, its not a tax as such.
Sweden went to great lengths to have it referred to as a "TV Fee".
Albeit very ambiguous.
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 14.Feb.2013, 01:32 AM
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I wonder if there is an English word for "rättshaverist"?
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jostein
post 14.Feb.2013, 08:39 AM
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Well, you on the other hand is easy to label a "conformist". And we all know what people like you will be busy doing when the state goes bad?

And no, i do not find enemies everywhere around me, i do not petition against the board of my buildingsociety, i do not petition against my employer, i do not petition against the municipality or any of the typical activities of a "rättshaverist". My enemies are clearly defined and they are eternal. It is the state and the statists. Those that think it is ok to use violence to parasite on others.
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jostein
post 14.Feb.2013, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE (byke @ 13.Feb.2013, 11:39 PM) *
... Just a heads up, its not a tax as such.. Sweden went to great lengths to have it referred to as a "TV Fee".. Albeit very ambiguous.

Maybe it should be labeled a "tithe"? Anyway, its a fee mandated by law and that is not the result of a voluntary contract so its a tax. That the mandarines try to rename it to something else is hardly relevant? That it goes to a state within the state, well, it just goes to show the byzantine nature of the swedish state today.

Billions of SEK are sloshing around in not quite state not quite private institutions in sweden. "Föreningar" that have other "Föreningar" as members and who in turn get their money from the taxpayer and are controlled by quite few physical persons. The swedish state has over 500 agencies in one big jungle. Normal states have half that number. The swedish riksdag is bigger than any other in Europe with its 349 members and the swedish government controls has 24 ministers. The swedish state support thousands of "kulturarbetare" who do nothing but produce extreme leftwing propaganda on taxpayer money. And this is just on state-level, when you get down to municipalities it gets even worse. All that to run a country thats not bigger than London? Its ludicrous?

http://www.regeringen.se/sb/d/13465/a/152838
http://www.myndighetsregistret.scb.se/Myndighet.aspx
http://www.number10.gov.uk/the-coalition/the-government/
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Yorkshireman
post 14.Feb.2013, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (byke @ 14.Feb.2013, 12:39 AM) *
So if you were to watch an Albanian channel, somehow in Sweden.. Nothing is to say that it can be classed as a channel or TV program as any such broadcast and its licensing is from outside of Sweden.

TV License is not a license for domestic and/or foreign channels, it is about the household having the equipment that could be used, regardless if they use it for the purpose or not.
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jostein
post 14.Feb.2013, 09:11 AM
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Correction, not OVER 500, more like 460. But then, statists are experts at renaming things, like renaming the tvtax into the tvfee. So who knows how many there are, if one went by a funding-control-function definition? And in all this vast system there sits little beurocrats snug and secure without having to do much work and that will defend this system of exploitation tooth and nail. AND claim to be morally superior for it when they are merely speaking in their own self interest.

And please remember, each and all of these outfits do advertising. Which means taxmoney accounts for up to half of the financing for the media in sweden. More when it comes to media that receive "presstöd". That is, when the media is not outright owned and controlled and run by the state directly. As in the case of SvT and SR. But then again, why a fee instead of a tax? Is it even in control of the politicians anymore? Or is the statemedia a state within a state? Accountability is just something that does not exist in sweden anymore.
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jostein
post 14.Feb.2013, 09:47 AM
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The statists spend over 50% of the money in sweden. The tax pressure on a working man is way over 50%, income tax, municipal tax, fees, arbetsgivaravgift, then to spend the money you pay all that again on the good you buy and VAT on top of that. But its worse than that. Because before-tax-spending is a sector all in itself. When i spend money on the company bill its tax-free and a whole different sets of rules apply. sweden and swedish economy and swedish powerstructures are so increadibly warped at this stage that it cannot be reformed. I work in a private company (home sick this week) but the majority of our clients are municipalities and state agencies. Or our clients clients. In the end, its over 70% taxmoney. Like everywhere else.
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byke
post 14.Feb.2013, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Yorkshireman @ 14.Feb.2013, 09:07 AM) *
TV License is not a license for domestic and/or foreign channels, it is about the household having the equipment that could be used, regardless if they use it for the purpose or not.

The law is populously vague in its definitions and looks to use computers and internet connections as cash cows as a way to generate extra revenue. A hearing aid could also be classed as equipment for a person to be able to access state channels.

A sham legal system.
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as8
post 14.Feb.2013, 11:19 AM
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Location: Malmö
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QUOTE (jostein @ 14.Feb.2013, 08:39 AM) *
Well, you on the other hand is easy to label a "conformist". And we all know what people like you will be busy doing when the state goes bad?

Do you support anyone in breaking any law they find abhorrent, even if you think it's a just law?
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