(edit title) SFI - Do we have any options They just moved the course times around... Options

[Puffin]

You are playing the gender card? Seriously?... Bringing brain capacity into this, well sweetheart, you will lose. I understand clearly, definitely how "Sweden works" ... (show full quote)

You are playing the gender card? Seriously?...

Bringing brain capacity into this, well sweetheart, you will lose.

I understand clearly, definitely how "Sweden works" but if you would care to enlighten me, seeing as I and everyone else here knows nothing, enlighten us all with your wisdom oh' Self Appointed Queen of Sweden..I also understand that you claim to be the amighty know all and give your opinions veiled behind a thin wall of smugness and condecension... Change the way you and your other regulars react to questions, simple questions and I will change my view of you. ... (hide full quote)

I hope you are seeking mental health counselling for you anger management problems

It's not surprising really given the abuse that you give other people - right from your first day on the board - that people just cannot take you seriously given your inability to accept any criticism when anyone dares to point-out that your own experience make not be what happens in all 290 self.governing kommuns

OK I hereby apologise for our original spat - for pointing out to another poster that you had given incorrect information tly amusing for telling a poster to call Tobias at Skatteverket in Örebro to sort out their PN - as you apparently didn't realise that this might not be useful information to the poster asking as she was in Stockholm as folkbokföring is a local function

so will *you* apologise for your totally grossly abusive and unacceptable personal attack that followed my pointing this out?

[gplusa]

Puffin is right. As usual. Another resident dumbarse is wrong. As usual. You CAN apply for SFI in another kommun and it CAN be done. However, as Puffin correctly pointed out, it can NOT be done without the written consent of your home kommun. The home kommun pays, so the home kommun decides.

[skogsbo]

OP, speak to your current SFI coordinator first, ideally face to face. Tell them that you are really keen to learn Swedish, but the current timings prevent it. Advise them that you are going to ask in neighbouring kommunes and ask for their support, depending on your pitch and wording, it will be hard for them to say no.

Where I am, FolkUni... do SFI to, I also work. So they happily let me modify my timings and days to suit, as long as I make the minimum number of hours per week, on average over a month, then I won't loose my place. Some weeks I do 2 days, others 3 full days. When I'm stuck I have switched up or down a level, any Swedish lesson is better than none!

I was told that because I'm working, ie. not claiming anything, then my circumstances are different, you'll probably find them more flexible if you emphasise this point. I think many SFI stafff presume that their students having nothing else to do all day, which is true 99% of the time.

[Yorkshireman]

The Kommun you are registered as living in has the legal obligation to make available SFI education for You. They are paid by the State per SFI student.

The amount they are paid has a maximum number of hours of education. There is also a minimum amount of hours the student must attend before the monies are paid, in theory it is an incentive to make sure the education is of a reasonable quality that students don't just quit! ( yeah right!)

Within the law there is one of those legally hard to define statements "If necessary, the municipality shall cooperate with other municipalities in terms of the organization of teaching.". The body that the Kommun determines to be responsible for managing SFI in that Kommun is the party that decides the "If necessary".

Since the Kommun is paid by the State and legally responsible for provision of SFI, one can see that it is with regard to financial and resource planning the Kommun, plus inter-Kommun recharging administration etc.., will make a decision on whether or not they allow a SFI student study in another Kommun. One can easily image situations in, and this is a fictitious example, smaller Kommun has an obligation to provide SFI, plans and organises teachers, facilities, other resources in advance based upon a forecasted number of SFI students, would refuse requests to study in another Kommun, maybe because the balance between break-even and loss in terms of SFI provision costs is fine! and in larger Kommuns the line between loss and break-even due to total number of students, class sizes, is much wider, so there is no issue for them to say "yes".

[agw9262]

Thanks all for the honest and helpful responses, I have approached the Rektor and am awaiting her decision now.

Will keep you posted :-)

[Puffin]

Wish you the best of luck and hope you get the right decision

[Puffin]

One can easily image situations in, and this is a fictitious example, smaller Kommun has an obligation to provide SFI, plans and organises teachers, facilities, other resource ... (show full quote)

One can easily image situations in, and this is a fictitious example, smaller Kommun has an obligation to provide SFI, plans and organises teachers, facilities, other resources in advance based upon a forecasted number of SFI students, would refuse requests to study in another Kommun, maybe because the balance between break-even and loss in terms of SFI provision costs is fine! and in larger Kommuns the line between loss and break-even due to total number of students, class sizes, is much wider, so there is no issue for them to say "yes". ... (hide full quote)

This is the problem - many kommuns have strict break-even points of minimum number that they will allow to run an SFI class - when I was part of a study team (a few years ago) looking at SFI one of the kommuns we visited only had 10 students on all SFI levels so the loss of even a couple of students taking the 35,000-50,000kr/year cost (at the time) of an SFI place to another kommun could put a serious hole in the budget leaving the kommun to determine whether to raise taxes or close the class for the other 8 or 9

Some kommuns collaborated if there less than 10 students on SFI/SAS but some people were forced to drop out as they could not afford or sometimes the 100km journeys were impossible

Some places work on very tight financials - a Free-school in Dalarna went bankrupt last year because 2 pupils left for other schools