(edit title) Are Swedes indebted? Trying to figure out the gAp? Options

[skogsbo]

That's how I remember London life, kind of like wanting to live in the city because of all the cafés, restaurants and museums but never going to them.. You know what I mean?

I think it's the same everywhere, you spend a lot of time and effort going further afield, but not always local. Before I left the UK for Sweden I was ticking off places I'd not been too, some were just a few mils from the door, despite living in that place for 5 or 6 years.

[jack sprat]

To demonstrate how stupid it is to have a whole nation spending most of their lives being treated like five year olds, especially with regard to alcohol, I could do a simple comparison with the Spanish..

Alcohol in Spain is dirt cheap and easily available through shops and the endless number of bars, yet it is much more unusual to see a drunken Spaniard staggering about the street than a pissed-up Swede in Sweden..

Young Spaniards are brought up with alcohol all around them, but most of them quickly learn from every day experience to treat it with respect and drink in moderation.

Compare that with Sweden and its ridiculous failed restrictive system of treating people of all ages like mindless eejits, leading sheltered lives, completely unable to think for themselves or make their own considered choices.

No need for the Spanish to sneak off and buy cheap illicit alcohol which could in itself well contain its own health risks,

They are generally treat like adults from theit teens onwards and soon learn to behave like adults, unlike in Sweden where the population is increasingly reliant on the state to do all their thinking for them.from birth to grave.

This has resulted in little other than a nation of zombie like people who virtually shake in their boots when faced with a serious personal crisis which wasn't pre-programmed into their systems..

[Yorkshireman]

Binge drinking more common in northern Europe, European Commission:

http://cordis.europa.eu/fetch?CALLER=EN_NE...05&ACTION=D

[skogsbo]

To demonstrate how stupid it is to have a whole nation spending most of their lives being treated like five year olds, especially with regard to alcohol, I could do a simple c ... (show full quote)

To demonstrate how stupid it is to have a whole nation spending most of their lives being treated like five year olds, especially with regard to alcohol, I could do a simple comparison with the Spanish.. ... (hide full quote)

you are comparing chalk and cheese again. Northern and Southern Europe are different in their social lifestyle. The Med countries drink to be social, northern European drink to get drunk. Look at the nations who generally drink pints or half litres, UK, Belguim, Holland, Germany, Denmark etc.. little glasses of beer or glass of wine, drank over a period of time, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy etc.. you just aren't comparing likes.

Young Spaniards are brought up with alcohol all around them, but most of them quickly learn from every day experience to treat it with respect and drink in moderation.

Young Brits are brought up surrounded with alcohol and what happens? Respect and moderation, I think not!

You keep make these sweeping generalisation about Sweden, the drinking culture, sneaking off to underground sources, not being invited to fika etc.. I still don't believe you live here or ever have for any extended period??? You dodged the question last time?

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

Hey skogsbo!

Don't worry about Jack...his wife has him sleeping outside for being a bad boy... again!

When she let's him back in the house he'll be a decent chap...maybe?

[skogsbo]

Don't worry about Jack...his wife has him sleeping outside for being a bad boy... again!

it's that or she won't give him any pocket money to go down the system.b. for a bottle and he's gone into cold turkey, with his anti Swede/ish rantings.

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

You got that right!

[jack sprat]

Ha ha,,your excuses are starting to wear a bit thin Skog.

For your info I've been living in various parts of Swedenr on and off for the past twenty years,...so I'm more than familiar with the culture,... if you can call it that,...of illicit booze and all the rest.

For your info.Gamla, no 'er indoors hasn't booted me out, not yet anyway, though she flew off back to Sweden for a while last week, leaving me to rough it down here in Spain in 35c of heat and all that cheap booze flowing around.

Just as well I have a nice big pool outside the back door, or else I'd really be struggling

Life's a bitch sometimes. .

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

Flew off to Sweden...she dumped you again! I can tell when she does that to you by your posts here...don't worry she'll be back and you will be contrite and all will be good again...you sure that pool isn't a puddle of your tears?

There, there...there's a good lad!

[jack sprat]

There you go again Gamla,speaking of your own very limited knowledge and experience regarding Swedish women.

I know it's been mentioned on countless threads, but surely even you must be aware by now that Swedish women have little or no respect for their fellow countrymen, yet will happilly fall over backwards to satisfy all the needs of incomers from foreign lands.

Time methinks for all Swedophiles to face up to themselves in the mirror and ask themselves whatever happened to the Viking spirit ?

Why do newcomers command so much respect, (partly what the thread was originally about I suppose), whilst sad Swedes are condemned to spending the rest of their lives changing nappies and doing housework or even resorting to trotting of toThailand to buy themselves some strange stick-insect-like creature, as a poor mans alternative to the real thing ?

Personally I've never had a problem with them and love them to bits.
Its simply a matter of keeping them well in line and giving them a sharp smack on the rump with the old horsewhip the moment they show even the faintest inclination of getting a tad stroppy, then they're as good as gold, totally respectful and as peaceful as a new-born lamb.

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

Jack,

I am glad you are happy...the new medications do wonders for a lonely guy in Spain, who is crying his heart out because he knows the love of his life is in a dalliance with an immigrant back home in Sweden...well, you know how they are...don't you, jack?

Eureka!!! That's why you post like you do!

[jack sprat]

Well as long as it's a red blooded immigrant and not some wimpish Swede, who cares ?

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

I heartily concur!

But then one never knows, does one?