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A- Kassa Application

Important question

50öre
post 29.Aug.2012, 08:09 PM
Post #1
Joined: 13.Aug.2012

I am recently on A-Kassa since 2 weeks.
I saw a document just now in SVT1.
There was a man who is 50 or 60 years old filled it with nej instead of Ja. But, I do not know the difference. But, that man got a bill from A-Kassa to pay 121.000 sek something like that.

The question was:
c) Har du tillerkänts pension eller annan form av ersättning som grundar sig på tidigare arbete?

In the application it also says how to fill it. But I did not get it.

c) Har du tillerkänts pension, tjänstepension, årlig ersättning etc eller har du beviljats förtida uttag
av ålderspension, ska du sätta kryss i ja-rutan. Bifoga också kopia av senaste beslut/besked
där beloppet framgår. Har du sjukbidrag eller förtidspension ska du också kryssa i ja-rutan och
bifoga beslut. Du som någon gång har varit egen företagare och då tecknat pensionsförsäkring
måste bifoga kopia på beslut om denna.


I also filled nej. I am worried if something wrong might happen.
I worked previously since many years and I am sure my all previous employers have payed tax and pension.

Thanks for the response.
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azimuth
post 29.Aug.2012, 08:15 PM
Post #2
Location: Gothenburg
Joined: 5.Mar.2010

Maybe call them and explain the situation before it's too late? Plus, do you know the details of the other case? Maybe the guy got money which he had no right to get, and that's why was fined...
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50öre
post 29.Aug.2012, 08:34 PM
Post #3
Joined: 13.Aug.2012

That was the only case I know. He and his wife were complaining about the huge bill. I did not get exactly why he got the bill. You mean he got a-kassa money which he was not eligible and now they are demanding back?
In my case I am 35 years. I am arbetslös just now. But, I worked many years. I still did not understand if I have to put yes or no. I already kept no and sent my application online. Because, I do not understand the question itself properly. I am like a normal worker. I am not sick and neither I want to go to pension right now.
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azimuth
post 29.Aug.2012, 09:11 PM
Post #4
Location: Gothenburg
Joined: 5.Mar.2010

Not sure. Guess it's better to wait for some more experienced people to reply. Hope you get it sorted out smile.gif
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Puffin
post 29.Aug.2012, 09:12 PM
Post #5
Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

The question is asking whether you have been awarded an income from other sources based on a previous job such as pensions, early retirement pay etc - this would reduce your eligibility for A-kassa

QUOTE
c) Har du tillerkänts pension eller annan form av ersättning som grundar sig på tidigare arbete?

c) have you been awarded a pension or any other form of remuneration based on previous work
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Puffin
post 29.Aug.2012, 09:14 PM
Post #6
Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

If you are receiving a pension for example you have tp declare it to A-kassa otherwise they will demand the excess payment back and you may be suspended
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50öre
post 30.Aug.2012, 06:59 AM
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Joined: 13.Aug.2012

Why would I get a pension right now? I am healthy and did not get any sickness benefits either anytime before. I worked several years different jobs. Never worked black jobs. Always worked white jobs.
The employers might be gathering up for my pension. Because, I heard from Folksam that my pension gathering money is with them. I am 35 years and I am not a pensioner right now. I just lost my job recently due to arbetsbrist. A-Kassa is counting me högsta dagpenning like 680 sek per day and initial seven working days is exclusion period. They are going to pay me from the day 8 my ersättning. That I can see clearly from the internet kassa.
I still do not understand this question.I am just like a normal Swedish worker. I have no company neither linked to any company in any means. I just work. I don't want to hear complicated questions please.
The question is what would you put in the column. Yes or No? That is my question and why would you put either yes or no?
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50öre
post 30.Aug.2012, 07:12 AM
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Joined: 13.Aug.2012

Why would the state pay pension for a healthy man who is 35 years? If the person is not sick and still can work. Imagine my situation. What is the reason to pay me pension right now if I am still able to work just like the majority population? The majority are working people. Few people are either sick or physically handicapped or psycho or if they have earned enough like millions and who had companies whatever. Such people get pension. I know that. If that is the case then all should have got pension by now. If I would get pension by now means all are pensioners irrespective of how they are.
The employers gathering pension might be the case for majority. It's not that only my employers paid pension on my behalf to the state. I am sure many employers almost 90 % pay pension gathering to everyone who is working in Sweden. I know some don't. But, that is another story. That kind of money is gathered in Folksam or whatever. That is not given as salary. When employer pays salary a part of money is given as pension. That part of pension money is not deposited into the employee. That is saved money.
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50öre
post 30.Aug.2012, 08:00 AM
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Joined: 13.Aug.2012

I called the A-Kassa Handels just now. The girl asked me if I just got salary or did I get other money instead of salary. She asked if it was shown as "Lön" or "pension" in the bank statement. I said I got only "Lön". I said the bank statement never showed "pension". I also told even my semester ersättningar showed as "Lön". Then, she said put "Nej".

I told her about the man's story to her from SVT1. I asked her why did the man put "nej"? Then she said that forget about him. Maybe he got pension before instead of salary or whatever.

She told me to put nej. That's it.
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Puffin
post 30.Aug.2012, 08:45 AM
Post #10
Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

It sounds like you are worrying over nothing - you are not in the same position as the guy on TV

Some people are awarded different types of full/part pensions - for example the guy on TV pay have been getting
- a disability or sickness pension from Försäkringskassan based on a medical condition
- have taken early retirement (you can do this from age 60)
- have received a large redundancy pay off - for example some companies pay 3-6 months of full salary to break your contract or to get around the last-in-last out rule
All of these income sources must be reported to A-kassa - as if you are getting money from somewhere else you don't get the same amount of A-kassa.

A-kassa compensates you for lost income - you are not allowed to get double pay

It sounds like the guy on TV has been getting money from a former employer or Försäkringskassan and did not report it to A-kassa - they found out and now he has to repay his double income
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50öre
post 30.Aug.2012, 09:04 AM
Post #11
Joined: 13.Aug.2012

OK. I get it.
I also got another application yesterday from A-Kassa and Folksam combined together. It says that they can verify my application insured based on higher income as Handels has an agreement with Folksam and it can pay more benefits if my salary is more like until 80 % of upto 35.000 sek income, for the first 100 days then it reduces to 80 % of 21.000 sek and 70 % so on.
So, I earned like 280.000 sek for the previous 12 months period. So, they told that I might get greater benefits for first 100 days. Instead of 680 sek I will get more per day. And, later it was written as I need to send all the A-Kassa benefits (income) list every payment to the following address:
Förenade Liv Gruppförsäkring AB
106 60 Stockholm
I do not know why I am supposed to send to Förenade Liv Gruppförsäkring AB.
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Puffin
post 30.Aug.2012, 09:07 AM
Post #12
Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

QUOTE (50öre @ 30.Aug.2012, 10:04 AM) *
I do not know why I am supposed to send to Förenade Liv Gruppförsäkring AB.

I would call your Union - but it sounds like your union and/or A-kassa membership comes with a group insurance policy for members that pays out in certain situations
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