(edit title) How bad can SL get? Not much worse than this I guess Options

[Essingen]

According to today's newspaper you can no longer board public transport if you have the strip of tickets and there is no one available to stamp it when you arrive at the station. What are you expected to do? Either buy an SMS ticket with a phone or a one off ticket from a pressbyrå (at significantly higher cost). If you don't you will be fined SEK 1200.

I wonder if there is any other country in the world that would accept this type of nonsense?

[CathySky]

Utter bollocks!!

If we have to pay extortionate prices for our tickets then there should bloody well be available personnel to mann the stations! what rubbish!

[Essingen]

Ha ha...it seems that not even Sweden is prepared to accept this stupidity as tonight SL have decided to back off.

http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/sl-backa...fas_6443640.svd

[Bender B Rodriquez]

Just the fact that they still use ancient paper strips that need to be stamped manually says a lot about the mismanagement of SL. The rest of Sweden left this archaic system over two decades ago in favour of magnetic or wireless cards...

[Abe L]

Actually having paperstrips available is a good system. Especially as long as not every bus-stop has a machine to purchase cards and international mobile phones can't purchase SMS tickets. Paperstrips are for very handy and convenient for tourists and it's something that shouldn't go away.

SL just needs to be more learn and let people travel if there is no opportunity to stamp them. The conductor can just stamp it instead if he does a round.

[Mzungu]

SL just needs to be more learn and let people travel if there is no opportunity to stamp them. The conductor can just stamp it instead if he does a round.

Then what happens?



*let's get on with life*

[Bender B Rodriquez]

Actually having paperstrips available is a good system. Especially as long as not every bus-stop has a machine to purchase cards and international mobile phones can't purc ... (show full quote)

Actually having paperstrips available is a good system. Especially as long as not every bus-stop has a machine to purchase cards and international mobile phones can't purchase SMS tickets. Paperstrips are for very handy and convenient for tourists and it's something that shouldn't go away. ... (hide full quote)

Buses don't sell tickets so that doesn't help you if you don't have a remsa.
A remsa and a magnetic card works in exactly the same way, except that using magnetic card would allow you to go directly through the gates and not having to queue at the booth to have your remsa validated.
There is absolutely nothing that makes it more convenient with a remsa.

[Mib]

The technology exists to use a card and load it with a number of journeys already. If it doesn't exist already, then just modify the system to allow it. Sweden is supposed to be ahead of the game in technology. Then sell the card instead of the paper strip and hey presto...no issue with an unmanned station...maybe the union is worried that SL will make people redundant if they make the system more efficient.

[Beef]

For once London is ahead of the game. Buses have a flat fee and on the underground and now some train lines, you tap in and tap out and it works out your fare. It even maxes so that you can't go over the cost of a one day travelcard..
You can even link it to you credit card/bank account as I do and if your balance goes below an amount that you set, it automatically tops up by an amount that you set.

I never have to think about tickets again when I go home!
Simples!

[007]

.maybe the union is worried that SL will make people redundant if they make the system more efficient.

it's already planned to replace the paper remsa early next year.

[Grahamsmjöl]

Some people don't like having magnetic cards for single journeys esp. linked to their bank account. Has nobody heard about the Oyster rip off in London recently?

I prefer paper coupons so I can see when they have made a mistake.

[Bender B Rodriquez]

The technology exists to use a card and load it with a number of journeys already. If it doesn't exist already, then just modify the system to allow it. Sweden is supposed ... (show full quote)

The technology exists to use a card and load it with a number of journeys already. If it doesn't exist already, then just modify the system to allow it. Sweden is supposed to be ahead of the game in technology. Then sell the card instead of the paper strip and hey presto...no issue with an unmanned station...maybe the union is worried that SL will make people redundant if they make the system more efficient. ... (hide full quote)

It is only Stockholm that is behind. In the rest of Sweden most places have been using prepaid paper or plastic cards with a magnetic strip for ages. Now many are using RFID.

[Streja]

Yes, where I come from, a small place on the west coast, we had coupons back in 1985, then it was changed to magnetic card. The magnetic cards were swapped for, in my opinion, useless plastic cards with silly buttons to push on the tram.

[dockmandock]

Sorry, but I think it's going to be a big minus for the traveller and just more profit for SL if/when they take away the paper SL remsa.

At the moment they're great for short trips into town and back as they're valid for 1 hour after the time stamp. So usually you get 75-80 minutes' worth of travel, e.g. you go through the barrier at 9.55, but they stamp it at "10.15", so you can start your final journey as late as 11.15.

Bus drivers tend to be more generous than in the underground kiosks (as I guess they are so busy driving the bus they just set the stamp some time ahead so they can forget about it) - so I've even boarded a bus at 20.00 before and had it stamped "22.00", giving me its use for the whole evening.

Obviously with an electronic activation you will always get just 60 minutes and not one minute more.

That might not sound much - but it does make a difference, as 80 minutes can be enough to pop into town for something and come back on the same strip, but 60 is much tighter.

[Streja]

In Gbg you get 90 min travel. Double that if you go outside Gbg.

Stockholmers are ripped off daily.