(edit title) Parental leave for a child born outside Sweden Föräldrapenning, is that possible? Options

[azimuth]

Hi,

In this topic I described why my wife has to leave Sweden temporarily. She is actually pregnant and the baby will be born in my country. I was wondering if I still have right to take the parental leave even if my baby was born outside Sweden. Has anyone experienced that? Would it work? Is there anything special required to get the Föräldrapenning in such cases?

I have actually emailed Försäkringskassan about this but thought to ask here before they reply me.

[Fernandis]

To my information, no you are not entitled for this benefit if child is born out of sweden...especially in your case if you not swedish citizen.

[azimuth]

I see... too bad but what can I do Any idea if I have to register my child at Skatteverket? And what will be needed for that?

[JulieLou40]

You will need to contact Migrationsverket regarding a residence permit for your child.

[skogsbo]

To my information, no you are not entitled for this benefit if child is born out of sweden...especially in your case if you not swedish citizen.

I see... too bad but what can I do Any idea if I have to register my child at Skatteverket? And what will be needed for that?

Firstly you will both be entitled paternity / maternity in Sweden when you return, even if you both live and work elsewhere first. However, what they will do is deduct whatever state funded leave either of you have in your country country from the Swedish allowance. Basically you only get 1 bite each of the cake, you can't get a repeat once you move to Sweden. You will need written proof from your current employers stating the number of days leave you took, before they will advise you Swedish employer of your allowance.
If you take additional unpaid leave this doesn't count, the same if you have a good employer who personally paid you, only the state funded element is counted against the Swedish state funded element.

You can register the child now, through your current country's consulate/embassy. You just need passports and birth certificate, plus both of you need to be there to sign and be witnessed by one of the staff.

IMPORTANT BIT - Make sure that you go down on the form as both the Father AND parent/guardian. They are different things and the mother has to sign to agree this too. It can have a major knock on effect should anything happen to either of you, or you split in the future.

[JulieLou40]

You can register the child now, through your current country's consulate/embassy. You just need passports and birth certificate, plus both of you need to be there to sign ... (show full quote)

You can register the child now, through your current country's consulate/embassy. You just need passports and birth certificate, plus both of you need to be there to sign and be witnessed by one of the staff. ... (hide full quote)

The child is not born yet...

[skogsbo]

You will need to contact Migrationsverket regarding a residence permit for your child.

that depends as he doesn't specifically say if the mother is Swedish or not. Also the fact of being of an EU nationality or not.

[skogsbo]

The child is not born yet...

well they'll just have to wait then! (missed that bit) They can still sound them out and find out when they are open and what forms that they print and pre-fill. Once they found out the sex and had a fight over names etc..

[JulieLou40]

that depends as he doesn't specifically say if the mother is Swedish or not. Also the fact of being of an EU nationality or not.

He said she has a residence permit, so she's not Swedish.

As an aside though, few countries have better safety records for giving birth than Sweden. OP, where are you and your wife from?

[axiom]

It is equally about the support structure that she will have once she has given birth. At home she no doubt has access to Mum, sisters, brothers, etc who can offer more support than her husband who is working at the same time.

I have tried to get my other half to move abroad with me, and her only condition is that she will not give birth in a foreign country with no family around and enduring labour through a foreign language - can't kill her for that at all.

[azimuth]

He said she has a residence permit, so she's not Swedish.. As an aside though, few countries have better safety records for giving birth than Sweden. OP, where are you and your wife from?

Forgot to mention that. We are both from Uzbekistan and my wife is already there.

Skogsbo, my wife actually studies, doesn't work so she cannot get any state paid leave. Even worse, she will have to basically go back to university a week after the birth, else she might have to do a lot of assignments to cover the absence from the study... So I don't really know how it would out with all those proofs as we don't actually get any money from the Uzbek state for children. From my side, it won't be any problem I guess as I work in Sweden and things are organized better here. I guess the best thing is to check with Försäkringskassan directly.

And by registering the child I meant whether I have to go to Skatteverket and say that I got child and show some certificate? How does it work for those whose children are born out of Sweden? As far as I know, children born in Sweden are registered in Skatteverket by hospitals.

[JulieLou40]

And by registering the child I meant whether I have to go to Skatteverket and say that I got child and show some certificate? How does it work for those whose children are bor ... (show full quote)

And by registering the child I meant whether I have to go to Skatteverket and say that I got child and show some certificate? How does it work for those whose children are born out of Sweden? As far as I know, children born in Sweden are registered in Skatteverket by hospitals. ... (hide full quote)

I know what you meant. But you seem to be under the impression that you need to do some sort of registration of birth with Skatteverket, when in fact this is only for children born WITHIN Sweden-which your child will not be.

Therefore you will have to go through the normal channels of getting permission for your child to come to Sweden from your homeland. Your initial communication regarding your child will be with Migrationsverket, NOT Skatteverket. Of course, if your child comes to live here, you will THEN need to go to SV so you can get him or her a person number.

[Puffin]

It depends what type of permit you have for your residence in Sweden

If you have a permit for long term residence such as UT/PUT then once the baby is granted residence in Sweden you will be entitled to paid parental leave and child benefits - the process may be a bit more drawn out as you will not get automatic registration as you do when born in Sweden

Paid parental leave will be based on you sick pay level SGI - there is an FK brochure in English that explains your rights
http://www.forsakringskassan.se/wps/wcm/co...seDefaultDesc=0

If your wife is a registered resident of Sweden then she will be able to claim parental benefits for her parental days once she returns and registers the baby - the max amount is 180kr/day or 5400 per month is you take out 7 days benefits each week(before tax)

The government has been talking about reducing benefits paid to children born outside Sweden but so far nothing has been done

[Puffin]

I don't think it is legal to return to work or studies 1 week after a baby is born - I think you are required to be off at least 2 weeks maybe more - most people could not do this anyway - many are still in hospital a week after the birth

it is also common for babies to be several weeks late - especially first babies

Also your wife would need to arrange passports and a visa/UT for the baby to enter Sweden if she is giving birth abroad - possibly DNA will be required as well - therefore I think it is highly unlikely that she will be returning to school a week after the birth even if she felt up to it

It may be best for her to take a studieuppehåll - break from studies - for the term to sort everying out - there will be a lot of paperwork - it is not like giving birth in Sweden

[azimuth]

I know what you meant. But you seem to be under the impression that you need to do some sort of registration of birth with Skatteverket, when in fact this is only for children ... (show full quote)

I know what you meant. But you seem to be under the impression that you need to do some sort of registration of birth with Skatteverket, when in fact this is only for children born WITHIN Sweden-which your child will not be.

Therefore you will have to go through the normal channels of getting permission for your child to come to Sweden from your homeland. Your initial communication regarding your child will be with Migrationsverket, NOT Skatteverket. Of course, if your child comes to live here, you will THEN need to go to SV so you can get him or her a person number. ... (hide full quote)

Well, when I got married in my country, I still could come to Skatteverket with the marriage certificate from my country and register the marriage. It was actually necessary for my wife to be able to apply for residence permit based on family ties.

Likewise, I assume that I can come with a copy of child's birth certificate and register him/her as my child. The only thing is that the baby won't get the personnummer until we get a residence permit for my child. This is my point.