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No turkey for Swedes.

Money for old rope

gplusa
post 16.Dec.2012, 10:38 PM
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3/4 billion ? In wooden pesos maybe. If you'd bothered to do some research with your pants on you'll have discovered that recent increased hosting costs have been due to the building of new stadia and infrastructure for the event. Sweden is using existing facilities. Your investigative goldmine has also rather conveniently neglected the point that each participating country pays for its own costs, not the hosting country. What the host country does get, aside from tickets sale revenue, is a captive television audience greater than that of the Super Bowl. They also get an increased host country phone voting revenue.

Do I hear the sad sounds of Klubbfoot knocking at the door again ?
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Puffin
post 16.Dec.2012, 10:43 PM
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Location: Dalarna
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mmm - think that you grasping a little today for your daily negative Sweden story smile.gif
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byke
post 16.Dec.2012, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (gplusa @ 16.Dec.2012, 10:38 PM) *
3/4 billion ? In wooden pesos maybe. If you'd bothered to do some research with your pants on you'll have discovered that recent increased hosting costs have been due ... (show full quote)


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The cost of staging Eurovision is put at around £60million.

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byke
post 17.Dec.2012, 12:00 AM
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Bosnia & Herzegovina also pulled out a few days ago ...

http://www.eurovisionary.com/eurovision-ne...on-song-contest
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Hisingen
post 17.Dec.2012, 12:12 AM
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When are you going to pull out, Byke?
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byke
post 17.Dec.2012, 12:13 AM
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Israel threatens to pull out unless they are given greater security.

http://eurovisiontimes.wordpress.com/2012/...ns-to-withdraw/
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gplusa
post 17.Dec.2012, 12:15 AM
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Location: Luleå
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Oh, all right then. My apologies. An unsubstantiated number in the local chip wrapper is far more accurate than the hundreds of other reports giving detailed cost breakdowns for the event. That explains everything. Do yourself a favour and try to save at least a shred of credibility if at all possible. An existing venue, existing infrastructure, all participating countries paying for their own participation costs, all participating networks jointly paying for the broadcasting costs, and Sweden is still going to be out of pocket by 3/4 of a billion kronor ? Puffin was right, this is a new classic. So good, in fact, I think it's going to have to takeover top spot on your wall of shame tribute site.
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byke
post 17.Dec.2012, 12:19 AM
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The guardian also reports on the exodus :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/201...singing-anymore
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byke
post 17.Dec.2012, 12:22 AM
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The Copenhagen post reports :

It’s official. Swedish TV is pants.
With Malmö hosting the 2013 Eurovision Song Contest, its national channels have been drastically cutting back to help fund it, and we might have to put up with this dearth until 2014.

http://cphpost.dk/inout/tv-listings-eurovi...u-suck-and-suck
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Yorkshireman
post 17.Dec.2012, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE (byke @ 16.Dec.2012, 08:40 PM) *
Israel has also threatened to pull out in protest given Malmö's racial and political tensions and what is often reported as anti-semitic given the violence often associated with it.

Errrr... that is not what they said. They said that they would allow their entry to take part if SVT can can state they will provide extra security that they deem necessary for their entry, especially with respect to the tension around many nations with regards the ongoing resettlements etc...
QUOTE (byke @ 16.Dec.2012, 08:40 PM) *
Coincidence? make of it what you will.. Greece, Portugal, Cyprus, Poland, Slovakia.. All have good records of attendance, and all have pulled out.

Those countries unfortunately have severe economic problems, it would most likely be viewed very negatively if they did take part!, considering the State debt issues. Countries are pulling back funding for next years Eurovision due to costs, it costs on average each country approx 180.000 Euro to send it's entry for the duration it is held in the host country.

QUOTE (byke @ 16.Dec.2012, 08:40 PM) *
Which begs the question, with almost three quarters of a billion kronor expected in costs to host such an event. Often foreseen as cost offset with postcards from the host cou ... (show full quote)

Each Eurovision shows that approx 33% of the cost for the host nation is recovered through ticket sales, then there is the indirect revenues from the participating countries (monies spent in the host city etc...) plus, there is the political exposure for Sweden that is not calculated economically ...and lastly, if it wasn't for Eurovision then Abba would not have been exposed to the World so easily, Eurovision put Sweden's music industry into the Worlds spotlight ...ever since those days Swedish music exports have been one of the driving factors of the nation. Swedish music is highly respected! Those revenues are difficult to calculate.
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JulieLou40
post 17.Dec.2012, 08:41 AM
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Location: Luleå
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If you hate Sweden that much that you have to scrape the barrel with stories about how shit it is and how it's going to fail at this, that, and the other, then for Gods sake leave.

Please.
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AW1
post 17.Dec.2012, 09:00 AM
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Location: Södermanland
Joined: 20.Mar.2012

QUOTE (byke @ 16.Dec.2012, 11:19 PM) *
The guardian also reports on the exodus :. http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/201...singing-anymore

From the same article...

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A chance for the UK

Hang the glitterball at half-mast: Eurovision has lost its sparkle. Greece, Poland and Portugal have dropped out of next year's competition, which is sad beyond words. In their own way, each of these countries added something irreplaceable to the proceedings over the years.

Who could forget the moment in 2005 when Greece's Helena Paparizou triumphed with My Number One? Or the moment in 1979 when Portuguese girl group Doce came 13th with Bem Bom? Or when Poland failed to qualify for the Eurovision final at all for six of the last seven years? The knowledge that we'll be deprived of more such moments is almost too much to take.

In this time of frostbitten austerity, it's clear why these countries have chosen to back out of what's essentially a meaningless singing competition. It's just be nice if they were a little more honest about their reasons. "Portugal pulls out of Eurovision due to cost of winning" was the headline the Portugal News Online went with – glossing over the fact that Portugal has never been placed higher than sixth, and that the only realistic way for it to win Eurovision in 2013 would involve a systematic campaign of blackmail and poisoning. However, if Eurovision stands for one thing, it's optimism. And even this dark cloud has its silver linings. Despite its similarly precarious financial outlook, for instance, Ireland has still vowed to enter an act next year. This is good news because Ireland is a genuine Eurovision heavyweight, and also because it dramatically ups the chances of Jedward turning up again.

Fewer acts may not be such a bad thing. The Eurovision song contest is painfully long. At some point each year – usually about the two-hour mark, as the votes are being counted, the average Eurovision viewer will start to gibber and froth and develop tunnel vision until the concept of time itself becomes utterly meaningless. If Greece, Portugal and Poland aren't taking part, that could feasibly reduce the running time by up to 20 minutes – a lifetime in Eurovision terms.

Best of all, though, this increases the UK's chances. We've automatically done better than three countries next year. Maybe Perhaps every other country in Europe will also succumb to austerity and pull out of Eurovision, too, and, without competition, that title would be ours for the taking. It's little comfort for the people of Greece, but frankly we need all the help we can get. Stuart Heritage
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John.Smith
post 17.Dec.2012, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (byke @ 16.Dec.2012, 09:25 AM) *
#Great investment

QUOTE (byke @ 16.Dec.2012, 05:58 PM) *
#Sexing up the facts.

 
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Willy
post 17.Dec.2012, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (byke @ 17.Dec.2012, 12:00 AM) *
Bosnia & Herzegovina also pulled out a few days ago .... http://www.eurovisionary.com/eurovision-ne...on-song-contest

Bloody h**l, Bosnia-Hertschnegova?! biggrin.gif

You already mentioned BiH. In fact, as I told you, it was one of the few on your list that were genuine "pull-outs" this year.
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Flutterbye
post 17.Dec.2012, 12:21 PM
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Location: United Kingdom
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QUOTE (gplusa @ 16.Dec.2012, 11:15 PM) *
Oh, all right then. My apologies. An unsubstantiated number in the local chip wrapper is far more accurate than the hundreds of other reports giving detailed cost breakdowns f ... (show full quote)

Not allowed to have chips in newspaper now, considered unhygienic sad.gif
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