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Any point in becoming a Swedish citizen?

If already an EU citizen

Donut
post 2.Aug.2012, 08:31 PM
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Joined: 18.Mar.2008

Cheaper and easier to get new passports - can anyone think of any other reasons?
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Programmeny
post 2.Aug.2012, 08:51 PM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 2.Aug.2012

Right to vote, right to become a politician.
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Kegzmc
post 3.Aug.2012, 10:55 AM
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Joined: 17.Jul.2012

Dont have to be ashamed of being Irish anymore
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teslar
post 3.Aug.2012, 01:16 PM
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Joined: 23.Jul.2009

Kinda depends on where you're from originally though, doesn't it? wink.gif

Going burgundy in addition to dark blue is for instance pretty nifty in my opinion... not sure why you'd want 2 EU passports though (nor if there's a point in giving up your existing citizenship - I guess a US citizien could consider giving it up so the kids won't be US citizens and therefore not required to do tax declarations in the US. But that'd come at the cost of giving up the aforementioned nifty combination).
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Yorkshireman
post 3.Aug.2012, 02:02 PM
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011

Citizens cannot be expelled. Everyone else can be.
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gplusa
post 3.Aug.2012, 03:10 PM
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Location: Luleå
Joined: 4.Sep.2009

That's true. Only Swedish citizen have the ABSOLUTE right to live in Sweden under Swedish law. Under current EU agreements, other EU citizens can live in EU countries indefinitely. For as long as that agreement stands. Most likely that agreement won't change under our lifetime but, as a citizen you need never worry. The UK has recently started making noises about restricting it's EU border access. If that happens, other countries may follow suite. All ifs and buts but citizenship removes doubts.
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Yorkshireman
post 3.Aug.2012, 04:07 PM
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011

QUOTE (gplusa @ 3.Aug.2012, 03:10 PM) *
Under current EU agreements, other EU citizens can live in EU countries indefinitely. For as long as that agreement stands.

I don't believe that is so!, even EU citizens with permanent right of residence can be expelled from Sweden. Member States cannot just use purely economic reasons as the justification.
QUOTE (gplusa @ 3.Aug.2012, 03:10 PM) *
The UK has recently started making noises about restricting it's EU border access. If that happens, other countries may follow suite. All ifs and buts but citizenship removes doubts.

Not surprised ... would be even less surprised if they start making moves to leave the EU biggrin.gif
After-all, the Conservatives have said they would consider a referendum, and even the Labour Party members have said recently that it was a mistake when they signed up for Freedom of movement etc...
There is a growing voice about taking power back to the UK.
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 3.Aug.2012, 04:08 PM
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Joined: 25.Mar.2006

QUOTE (gplusa @ 3.Aug.2012, 04:10 PM) *
...other EU citizens can live in EU countries indefinitely...

Only if you fulfill the EU rules on free movement. Even an EU citizen with permanent residence (after 5 years) can still be expelled if they commit crimes. Only citizens have the right to stay no matter what.
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*Trowbridge H. Ford*
post 3.Aug.2012, 04:10 PM
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It certainly is an issue in my case.

If the American government refuses to renew my passport - and it well might because of my continuing research and writing about its vile ways, especially in Sweden - I shall be stuck in Sweden, and I could be deported unless I become a citizen.

Let you know what happens, but my situation makes absurd jantjim's claim that my seeking a renewal of my passport shows my confidence in how it operates.

I have no choice but to seek its renewal for without it I risk being more likely shipped back to the police States.
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 3.Aug.2012, 04:17 PM
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Joined: 25.Mar.2006

Surely you must have been in Sweden long enough to qualify. I'm surprised you are not a citizen already.
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*Trowbridge H. Ford*
post 3.Aug.2012, 04:27 PM
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Doesn't an American lose some of their SS by becoming a Swedish citizen?

And I never thought I would stay here this long - as I didn't stay all that long in Portugal while the Yanks were trying to get rid of me there.

And I thought that the Americans would finally start electing better leaders so I could ultimately go back there, but they have only elected worse ones.

Might be leaving here now for some unknown destination of my own volition.
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 3.Aug.2012, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (Trowbridge H. Ford @ 3.Aug.2012, 05:27 PM) *
Doesn't an American lose some of their SS by becoming a Swedish citizen?

Sweden does not require you to give up your citizenship and they do not inform foreign authorities. Although, the US does not accept dual citizenship officially they do so quietly. As long as you travel in and out of the US on your US passport they do not care. I know plenty of dual US citizens and they don't have any problems with US authorities.

EDIT: It seems that the US do recognize dual citizenship after all. You can lose your US citizenship if you become a citizen of another state by free will AND if you express your intention to give up your US citizenship.
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Yorkshireman
post 3.Aug.2012, 04:52 PM
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011

Actually they do allow!

Quoted from the US State Department:

U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

That last part of the paragraph is the relevant one, it is very hard for them to prove, so they dont really bother, the intention of obtaining another citizenship!
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SOIS.COM
post 3.Aug.2012, 09:05 PM
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Joined: 25.May.2012

Including many of the above reasons (You cannot be expelled unless your citizenship was gained under false pretenses and then it could be revoked)..perhaps including travelling on a Swedish passport may go more smoothly...

For example, if you hold a Romanian passport you will need a visa to travel to the US or South Africa. Whereas, a Swedish passport will get you into those countries visa free.

If you run into the misfortune of having your plane or cruise ship hijacked you are more likely to survive if you have a Swedish passport as opposed to a UK passport.

If you decide to live in a Nordic country it is easier to do so as a Nordic citizen then as an EU citizen and in some cases fees for residence application are waived.

Insurance...just as companies practice risk management and place their assets strategically in various countries by having multiple citizenship's it is easier to take advantage of the best each nation has to offer while on the other hand mitigate a degree of risk. A solid example would be dual Swedish and Greek citizens who may benefit from higher levels of economic stability in Sweden at the moment. If Greece were to fall outside the EU the dual citizen would not be impacted.
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