(edit title) Wild n Fresh salad bar book? Options

[Yendor]

Sofia Appelgren who was the owner of the resturant called Wild n Fresh in Göteborg is going to release a book about her experience as owner of her salad bar. Lets be clear about one thing right from the start, she did NOT break any Swedish Laws in anyway, shape or form, and thats a fact! But since the Swedish Goverment is intimidated by unions and "turns a blind eye" and in practice allows unions like The Hotel and Resturant Union (HRF) to call the shots in a conflict situation and use their blank check from the goverment to threaten people like Sofia to sign a contract that they dont want to sign. So at the end of the day Sofia sold her salad bar because she could no longer take the threat letters, intimidation and the masked union thugs in front of her store. So sadly and tragically she payed the price from all the stress by having to sell her salad bar and then having a miscarriage! Shame on us as a people, shame on the goverment and police for standing by and allowing something like this to happen in Sweden and most of all shame on the masked hotel and resturant union thugs! This sounds like a story out of the old Soviet Union not Sweden 2007?

[*Arca*]

Something to widen your perspective:

http://www.flamman.se/inrikes.php?id=4121

Haha, she was just ignorant and stubborn:

"Alla lagar och regler följdes inte fullt ut. Men successivt har Sofia Appelgren och hennes sambo anpassat villkoren till kollektivavtalets nivå. Semesterersättningen, som inte betalades ut till en början, har nu betalats ut retroaktivt till alla anställda och kommer betalas fortlöpande. Nya försäkringar har tecknats för att, så gott det går, överensstämma med de försäkringar som ingår i kollektivavtalet. Och det finns i alla fall ett muntligt löfte om att övriga delar av avtalet som sjuklön, pensionsförsäkringar och eventuell föräldrapenning ska betalas ut till de anställda om det blir aktuellt."

So the blockade did serve a purpose after all. It taught Sofia what the collective agreement contained and as the blockade progressed, she improved the conditions for her employees. Had she not been schooled into such an ego-centrical, neo-liberal, [content removed], she would have signed the collective agreement when offered and come out of this cheaper and still running her salad bar.

[Stüpid]

it's a sad news really. it remembers me the incident of couple immigrants who runned a restaurant and stood brave while being treatened by some motherfuxxers and were been awarded. last year i think.

[Yendor]

We can see right away what kind of newspaper FLAMMAN is!
A left wing paper that is a fountain of misinformation. Sweden allows threats by union thugs as a way of doing business.

[*Arca*]

"Ohh poor rich-bitch".. you'd rather have 20 year olds taken advantage of on the labor market than make an entrepreneur run her business in a responsible way?

Ah, I forgot, you're american...!!! Figures.

[Nomark]

Something to widen your perspective:

http://www.flamman.se/inrikes.php?id=4121

Haha, she was just ignorant and stubborn:

"Alla lagar och regler följdes inte fullt ut. Men successivt har Sofia Appelgren och hennes sambo anpassat villkoren till kollektivavtalets nivå. Semesterersättningen, som inte betalades ut till en början, har nu betalats ut retroaktivt till alla anställda och kommer betalas fortlöpande. Nya försäkringar har tecknats för att, så gott det går, överensstämma med de försäkringar som ingår i kollektivavtalet. Och det finns i alla fall ett muntligt löfte om att övriga delar av avtalet som sjuklön, pensionsförsäkringar och eventuell föräldrapenning ska betalas ut till de anställda om det blir aktuellt."

So the blockade did serve a purpose after all. It taught Sofia what the collective agreement contained and as the blockade progressed, she improved the conditions for her employees. Had she not been schooled into such an ego-centrical, neo-liberal, bitch, she would have signed the collective agreement when offered and come out of this cheaper and still running her salad bar.

Your adherence to the party line is admirable.

If it was a hot sunny day but the party told you it was snowing, you'd be out with gloves and a scarf.

[*Arca*]

Your adherence to the party line is admirable.

If it was a hot sunny day but the party told you it was snowing, you'd be out with gloves and a scarf.

Is a character attack the best you can come up with? Why don't you comment on the facts in the article? Too tough to counter, is it?

[Nomark]

Is a character attack the best you can come up with? Why don't you comment on the facts in the article? Too tough to counter, is it?

Arca - should you choose to read my contributions here, you'll see I am indeed able to debate at length. However, you may also see that I'm somewhat picky these days and I don't engage with hysterical time wasters. I seem to recall from the last time we discussed a topic that your debating skills consisted of getting very angry and misquoting anything I would write.

As for character attacks - I wasn't the one who called somebody I've never met "a bitch". Self-awareness please.

[007]

Is a character attack the best you can come up with? Why don't you comment on the facts in the article? Too tough to counter, is it?

tsk tsk tsk...character attack came first from you my dear arca.

first re: the woman, sofia appelgren. twice you've called her a bitch (and i don't mean in the positive light that i like to be called bitch), then your "brilliant" comeback for yendor dismissing his comment by bringing up his nationality (yep 290 million people in one fell swoop just got generalized --and patronized)

as for the article. well, comments like
Snart tvååriga Alice har antingen tillfrisknat eller så har en barnvakt snabbt ordnats fram. För under resten av dagen ger Sofia Appelgren intervjuer till ett stort medieuppbåd av TV, radio och tidningar.
do detract from its credibility by snidely insinuating fraud. for a leftist publication which should be more "feminist" than neo-liberal...it's quick to dismiss that the child has a father --..how quickly we generalize and stereotype...even the best left-leaning intentioned of us.

[*Arca*]

Arca - should you choose to read my contributions here, you'll see I am indeed able to debate at length. However, you may also see that I'm somewhat picky these days and I don't engage with hysterical time wasters. I seem to recall from the last time we discussed a topic that your debating skills consisted of getting very angry and misquoting anything I would write.

You're wrong, Nomarksman. I remember clearly the two times we engaged in debate. I was never angry, I had a lot of fun watching you get upset over me not interpreting your words the way you intended. I also played around with pointing out how you made the same error you accused me of. To me it's all the natural ambiguity of langauge.

[Nomark]

You're wrong, Nomarksman. I remember clearly the two times we engaged in debate. I was never angry, I had a lot of fun watching you get upset over me not interpreting your words the way you intended. I also played around with pointing out how you made the same error you accused me of. To me it's all the natural ambiguity of langauge.

To me, its all about being mature enough to engage in rational debate, to debate around a point, and not to misquote.

But I've wasted enough time with you already. Why don't you go and do something useful ? One of my neighbours pays a local schoolkid a bit of pocket money to cut his grass. I doubt that tax is paid or that the kid belongs to any kind of agreement. I suggest that you go and blockade the lawn.

[*Arca*]

tsk tsk tsk...character attack came first from you my dear arca.

first re: the woman, sofia appelgren. twice you've called her a bitch

I'm talking about character attacks in reference to debating parties. It's a common way of avoiding the issue.

Calling Sofia Appelgren a bitch is just a way of expressing disgust at her behavior, similar to how Socialdemocrats are referred to as communists here day in and day out. We can still stay on the issue and talk about events and facts surrounding it. But when Yendor and Nomark dismisses an article full of interesting points because of the paper's or my (!) political afiliations, then it's a character attack on a debating party and just a way of avoiding the issue.

I'm sure you see the difference.

[*Arca*]

To me, its all about being mature enough to engage in rational debate, to debate around a point, and not to misquote.

That's what you said last time, man. I'm obviously getting on your nerves because you keep coming back for revenge. haha..

[007]

I'm talking about character attacks in reference to debating parties. It's a common way of avoiding the issue.

Calling Sofia Appelgren a bitch is just a way of expressing disgust at her behavior, similar to how Socialdemocrats are referred to as communists here day in and day out. We can still stay on the issue and talk about events and facts surrounding it. But when Yendor and Nomark dismisses an article full of interesting points because of the paper's or my (!) political afiliations, then it's a character attack on a debating party and just a way of avoiding the issue.

I'm sure you see the difference.

nice try to twist yourself out of your hypocrisy, but it doesn't quite fly.

calling her a bitch is using a masculine tactic of subjugating women when opposing them. disgust in her behavior does not a bitch make. your choice of the term is to derogate and defame her as a woman. all that do-goodedness in you and you're chauvinist at the root.

if your intention was to stick to the facts and discuss the issue you wouldn't have resorted to name calling to begin with.

[007]

That's what you said last time, man. I'm obviously getting on your nerves because you keep coming back for revenge. haha..

is this your attempt to stick to the issue?