(edit title) Julian "leaky" Assange wiki leaks founder ... Options

[William Sachsen-Coburg-Go...]

If I'm understanding this correctly, the guy had consensual sex but this is considered rape because the condoms broke.

In the interests of equality, does this mean that a bloke can now have a woman charged with rape if she forgets to take her pill?

[Lostaussie]

He's an Aussie, that should be enough

[*Trowbridge H. Ford*]

It certainly isn't good enough for me, as it reminds me of how our Gwrhyr appparently aka Colleen Larose and 'Jihad Jane' tried to entrap me as Lars Vilks Islamic assassin.

Remember during the summer and fall of last year when she was going on about travelling around Europe on a sex holiday, ending up here in Stockholm where she advertised on this site, and sent me a PM about wanting to have my babies.

Of course, I had no interest in it, though shortly before she left to go back to the States, and face the music, she said in the PM that she was quite drunk, and ready for action. I can just imagine what would have happened if I had taken up her offer.

We probably would have had consensual sex, and after I came back here, she would have gone to the police, claiming that I had effectively raped her since I didn't wear a condom. Of else, she would have said that she said "no" while we were having sexual intercourse, gone to the police, and had then establish that my semen was in her vagina and uterus.

It would have been the end of the story for me, but it turned out to be the end of her story, as the corrupt federal officials, especiallly in the CIA, FBI and DoJ, are left with her, and haven't known since how to dispose of the mess they created.

Looks like their chances with Assange, though, are much better.

[CTIDinÅrsta]

That's odd.

It reminds me of lots and lots of other rape cases where the man has decided that the woman doesn't have the right to decide over her own body, that no means yes, that he knows what she "really" wants is what he wants and he's getting his tonight.

Could one of you all-knowing conspiracy theorists please explain why an individual can't be the founder of a web site and a rapist.

[Puffin]

I guess that until we actually hear some evidence rather than gossip in the tabloids it will be hard to say

[*Trowbridge H. Ford*]

I just explained how close I came to being one, so it obviously could happen for real sometime.

Most posters think that codshit.com is my web site despite my repeated denials, and I just told you how hard Gwrhyr tried to make me a rapist. It's the only way to explain her wild behavior.

It's for real now with Julian Assange.

[byke]

Just read this article.
http://justice4assange.com/Prosecution.html
And while it is obviously a very pro supporter of mt Assange, it does bring up some very interesting questions and failings in the case. Aswell as take a very strong view in regards to the Swedish legal system and how it may differ to that of other nations in the EU.
Worth a read.

[eurobloke]

Latest twist to case...

Just to let you know he is now seeking asylum in Ecuador, this was done by visiting the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/1...-asylum-ecuador

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/assange-s...-asyl-i-ecuador

[jack sprat]

I don't claim to know the rights and wrongs of the case, but the guy has always appeared to me to be a pathetic weak kneed coward, and his latest action simply further strengthens my opinion.

[Willy]

Am I the only one thinking it's beyond hilarious that Julian "Sweden is a banana republic" Assange is seeking asylum in....Equador?

[byke]

From what I understand, by requesting such he is essentially looking to self imprison himself at the embassy under asylum. While making an appeal for his case to be heard at the Eu court of human rights.

As while he has lost his case in the UK, he can appeal ... However that appeal won't allow him to prolong his wait for extradition to Sweden.

So it's more so a situation of looking for a safe haven based on a EU ruling.
Than an actual attempt to look to move to south America.

[skogsbo]

the thing is why would you go to such lengths if you were innocent? He pretends to fight for the good of common man with his leaks etc.. but he thinks he is either above the law or intellectually superior and doesn't have to face a Police investigation in the same manner as a common man.

I hope he just gets locked up(for any offence) to take that smug arrogant look off his face, or some nutter who is fed up with his attitude takes a pot shot at him!

[byke]

the thing is why would you go to such lengths if you were innocent? He pretends to fight for the good of common man with his leaks etc.. but he thinks he is either above the l ... (show full quote)

the thing is why would you go to such lengths if you were innocent?

He pretends to fight for the good of common man with his leaks etc.. but he thinks he is either above the law or intellectually superior and doesn't have to face a Police investigation in the same manner as a common man. ... (hide full quote)

1. Why would you wish to go to Sweden when the case has already been dropped once, reopened under political pressure and he has still yet to be charged and is marred with questionable blunders from the Swedish prosecution?

So it's not surprising that given all the twists and turns that he considers this a set up.Especially given the fate of Bradley Manning.

2. Under what merrit is your claim of "he pretends" or "he thinks he is above the law" or he believes he is "intellectually superior".

Those comments alone suggest your view points alone have no merrit to even comment on such a case when you use your own fantasy to convict a person on whatever grounds to justify your own delusional state.

I am not saying he is innocent, as no charges have been made.
But I am saying by your comments you should have your parents take greater responsability for your net use.

[skogsbo]

1. Why would you wish to go to Sweden when the case has already been dropped once, reopened under political pressure and he has still yet to be charged and is marred with ques ... (show full quote)

1. Why would you wish to go to Sweden when the case has already been dropped once, reopened under political pressure and he has still yet to be charged and is marred with questionable blunders from the Swedish prosecution? ... (hide full quote)

Charged? you do not understand the process of law, in any western country. He can't be charged until his view of the alleged event is heard, then it's up to the Police and the prosecution services to decide what charges are be filed against him, based on the quality of evidence. Only if you refuse to talk during your interview would you be charged without having stated your own circumstances and only if the evidence proved your were in all likelihood guilty.

So it's not surprising that given all the twists and turns that he considers this a set up.Especially given the fate of Bradley Manning.

Now, you are starting to sound like Trow. One case doesn't mean that everyone for ever after would be treated the same. Plus with Assanges legal team and financial backing, if there is even the smallest means of escaping justice on a technicality he will be free. He is pending extradition now and he is free to roam around during the day, would you or I be? NO.

Under what merrit is your claim of "he pretends" or "he thinks he is above the law" or he believes he is "intellectually superior".

His attitude, would anyone else still be dancing around the UK, if you or I had the same alleged offences? No. He thinks he can be on some moral high ground for leaking the truth, but when it comes to him clearing his name by speaking the truth in the Police interview in Sweden, for offences he 'allegedly' committed in Sweden, then he just isn't man enough. Besides how can you look or listen to him and not come to the conclusion that he is a smug arrogant bast...?

use your own fantasy to convict a person on whatever grounds to justify your own delusional state.

I don't suggest he should be convict for an offence he hasn't committed, but he is hindering a police investigation, these offences might have been made up by the accuser and by following due process the accusations would get thrown out. BUT, what if some of it is true, how fair is this current farce on the victim? The system of law is there to protect the victims or the innocent people, it certainly isn't working right now.
Delusional state, delusional is the state of the people who think this is all a conspiracy to get him extradited to the USA for other charges by the Security Services, when he is already in the extradition capital of Europe and if the USA wanted him by that method, he would have been there 2 or more years ago.

[SimonDMontfort]

I thought those folks who put up the 200,000 GBP for Assange's 'bail' wouldn't be too 'chuffed' that he's 'gone' (to the Ecuadorian embassy)

However, it seems that because its known where Assange is, theres a good chance the bail providers will get their money back