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In Vitro Fertilisation (IVF) in Sweden

Any experience? What are the costs?

Bra_billie_boy
post 6.Apr.2011, 12:10 PM
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Hej,

My wife met with her doctor lately and she was told that she has an ovarian cyst and that needs to be removed through operation. Doctor also said that this cyst is the main reason as to why she is not becoming pregnant. Doctor mentioned that after the surgery, we can go for In Vitro Fertilisation (IVF) in an attempt to get pregnant.

Has anyone else had any experience with IVF? If so, what are the costs and how's the procedure?

Will be very grateful for any info!

Thanks

//WorrieD!!
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Puffin
post 6.Apr.2011, 01:42 PM
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Location: Dalarna
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QUOTE (Bra_billie_boy @ 6.Apr.2011, 01:10 PM) *
Hej,My wife met with her doctor lately and she was told that she has an ovarian cyst and that needs to be removed through operation. Doctor also said that this cyst is the mai ... (show full quote)

Ovarian cysts may not necessarily mean that you need IVF - it may be worth waiting a few cycles to see

Even if the cyst has damaged to ovary - usually the other one will continue to produce eggs or fertility drugs may increase egg production

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Doctor mentioned that after the surgery, we can go for In Vitro Fertilisation (IVF) in an attempt to get pregnant.
Has anyone else had any experience with IVF? If so, what are the costs and how's the procedure?
Will be very grateful for any info!
Thanks
//WorrieD!!

IVF is usualy considered after other options have been ruled out - the drugs can make people feel very ill and the egg harvesting procedure can be painful.

Most health authorities will allow you to have 3 attempts before you have to pay for your own treatment - but there can be long waiting lists

We went through this years ago with a large uterine cyst and unsuccessful infertitily treatment - my body reacted very badly to the drugs. We started the adoption process to adopt a child from abroad and paid 3000kr to go on the compulsory adoption preparation course - at the end of the course I was feeling pretty sick - and it turned out to be DD1...
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Bra_billie_boy
post 7.Apr.2011, 11:06 AM
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Hi Puffin,

Thanks a lot for your reply. You are right about waiting a few cycles after the operation. I guess I am (or we are) a bit shaken up after finding out that my wife has an endometriotic cyst and that operation is the only way out. I hope things work out well.

Thanks again for sharing your experience.

/Bill
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Bagpuss79
post 7.Apr.2011, 02:34 PM
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Hi Bill!

Follow your decision, try a few "natural" cycles first, say a good year...you see, I have endometriosis (badly) and PCOS.
Anyway, after about a year and a half of trying, in 2007 we had our little boy. The infertility specialist is convinced he was concieved when I had resigned to the idea that I would never get pregnant and sort of "gave up" on the idea. Who knows. But let Mother nature have a chance...and hopefully she´ll be as kind to you as she was to me.

Thinking of you and hoping the operation goes/went well. Tell your wife she´s not alone.

Love & hugs

Bagpuss79
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Sydneyswede
post 7.Apr.2011, 02:40 PM
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Hi Bill

I am in a similar situation having just being diagnosed with PCOS and briefly discussed IVF with my ob/gyn...she was extremely positive. Apparently Sweden has one of the best IVF success rates in the world and the cheapest (though we didn't get into specifics at this stage). I am on a weight loss campaign and we will look at pregnancy options later this year...you guys are definitely not alone here!! Wishing you all the very best!! Kate
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Bra_billie_boy
post 7.Apr.2011, 03:53 PM
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Thank you so much Bagpuss 79 and Kate!! Extremely obliged for all your love and kindness. I wish you two and Puffin, the best of family love and hope you lead a long healthy fun filled life!

Keeping my fingers crossed and praying for God's help!

/Bill
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Snoopy!
post 7.Apr.2011, 08:26 PM
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Location: Skåne
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Hej Bra_billie we have recently been through IVF treatment & our 2nd attempt was successful so were both very happy after having been trying for a number of years.
The state pays for the first 3 attempts & the drugs "which is many!" are further subsidized.
I guess every woman will be different in their approach to IVF, but I can only speak for my other half & not truly know how she felt being "probed" its not a very pleasant procedure.
But saying that the IVF doctors & nurses were exemplary & can not speak highly enough of them , in the way they explain everything to both partners,& their overall approach to everything.

Certainly if you do go that route ,speak to the specialists as much as you can to ease any fears or uncertainties either of you might have.
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Amber Dawn
post 13.Jun.2012, 01:28 PM
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Bumping up an old thread to see if anyone has any more information. My understanding is that depending on the county, you get up to 6 attempts for fertilization after around a year long waiting list. Right now it is only open to committed couples, but it looks like single women will soon be included, probably making the waiting list much longer. For those using donor sperm in VG, you get 4 attempts at IUI before moving on to IVF if you so choose, but 1 IVF attempt counts as two fertilization attempts.

Now it is my understanding that if you don't get pregnant on those 5 or 6 attempts, you have to travel outside of the country because there is no way to pay for additional attempts. If you do get pregnant and want a second child, unless you have embryos saved from a previous IVF attempt, you once again have to travel outside of the country, as the Swedish system won't assist with a second pregnancy. Does anyone know if this is valid? Are there no private fertility clinics in Sweden at all? No wonder so many have to go to Denmark. As it's a money making business, one would think Sweden would want the money staying here.
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Ned Smitty
post 13.Jun.2012, 01:59 PM
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Still only three attempts via Landstinget.

That being said an "attempt" is only regarding as the removal of the eggs. If no eggs were successfully removed then that attempt doesnt count towards the three.

However, in general, only one fertilised egg is implanted again. There are exceptions to this on a case by case basis, therefore no octomoms in sweden thank god! So remaining fertilised eggs are frozen to be unsed at a later date.

If the implanted egg does not succeed in pregnancy then any frozen eggs can be used on the next try. I think it's about 75% success rate for defrosting the eggs. But the implantation of those eggs are still considered part of the previous attempt.

Needless to say:
You need to try naturally for 2 years before being considered for IVF.
3 egg removals paid via Landstinget.
Not all eggs will be successfully fertilised.
Not all fertilized eggs can be frozen ok, only perfect ones will be considered.
Eggs can be frozen on Landstinget for up to 2 years.
Not all frozen eggs can be successfully defrosted. (1 in 4 failure)
After 3 attempts you go private:
Costs 20000-25000 per attempt, or ~50000 for a three pack of tries.
If you go private and pay for the "three pack" and are successfully pregnant on the first try the other two tries are nullified. (which is why the pack price is cheaper)

The waiting list is definatlely shorter than 1 year... Closer to 6 months in the Stockholm area, as Landstinget involve private clinics too in Uppsala, Stockholm and Södertalje too.
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Amber Dawn
post 13.Jun.2012, 03:31 PM
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But that is not the case when using donated sperm. If a man is sterile or the couple is two women, there is no "going private" option. If you went directly to IVF, you could have three total tries, but those using donated sperm have to start with IUI for the first four, leaving only one round of IVF as a possibility.
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Fernandis
post 13.Jun.2012, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (Bra_billie_boy @ 6.Apr.2011, 01:10 PM) *
Hej,My wife met with her doctor lately and she was told that she has an ovarian cyst and that needs to be removed through operation. Doctor also said that this cyst is the mai ... (show full quote)

Yes, IVF is the only option for you guys. BUT, I'd suggest you to try IUI before IVF. In IUI they'll collect just sperms, wash and inject only healthy ones. Beside this, female's overy is stimulated for eggs production by injections. it'll cost you SEK 3000 per attempt (private), but free in govt. hospital. The benefit with IUI is that before going for IVF if IUI is also failed, the overy gets prepared for IVF and your chances of getting pregnant are increased. Ask your doctor to start IUI untill you guys wait for IVF.
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Amber Dawn
post 13.Jun.2012, 04:20 PM
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But keep in mind that you only get a total of 6 tries total for free. IUI counts as one try and IVF counts as two, so you either get 6 IUIs, 4 IUIs and 1 IVF, 2 IUIs and 2 IVFs or 3 IVFs. IVF is MUCH more expensive than IUI, so if your doctor is certain you are going to end up with IVF, wasting attempts on IUI is pointless. 6 IUI attempts out of pocket will cost you around 18000:- where 3 IVF attempts will cost between 60000:- and 100000:-. Just don't waste your chances.
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byke
post 13.Jun.2012, 04:33 PM
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Location: Europe
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Why would the state pay for single women to get pregnant?
I am by no means a religious person ... But that just seems nuts.

Is Sweden really that desperate that it's willing to spunk up anyone to increase the tax numbers?
Would hate to think what sort or state Arian army would be produced if pigs could carry embryos.

I respect the difficulty faced in such situations for couples ... But that's what natural selection is.
No one kissed Susan Boyle for a reason.
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Amber Dawn
post 13.Jun.2012, 05:32 PM
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You know Sweden is big on equality and technically it would be discrimination to assist a couple where the man is sterile and not to assist a single woman. Both cases need sperm. I am torn, as there are a lot of single mothers that do a better job than some couples, and who is to say one parent won't take off soon anyway? Right now, they will only help couples have one child. I think when they allow single women it's going to force them to have to cover each member of a two-female couple to have a child. Wouldn't it be discrimination to say that one can get pregnant and the other can't, when if they were both single, they could each do it? It's commitment discrimination! lol

Don't get me wrong, considering the cost of reproductive assistance in other countries, I am grateful to the Swedish system. It just seems like if there is profit to be made, they should make it. Danmark is getting millions of kroner per year from Swedes traveling to use the clinics there. It also seems like a couple would be more comfortable sticking with the hospital they are using rather than travel out of country after 3-6 tries.
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tuborgian
post 13.Jun.2012, 09:13 PM
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Can someone give the link to a clinic(s) in stocholm that do IUI. Thanks
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