(edit title) Free health care What counts as treatment? Options

[Puffin]

So how do county health services decide what is counted for the high cost health card?

when is physiotherapy not physiotherapy?? .... when they call it *training*!!

Is this a widespread thing that you get charged for your physio appointments because injury rehabilitation exerciseprogrammes have been classified as *training* rather than *physiotherapy* so they claim that you cannot use the high cost card for this and have to pay?

Anyone else had this?

[*kingston*]

Im in this situation at the moment. I have a free card and go to physiotherapy 3 times a week but have now been told that as i am now only training it would be better to get a gym card for 300 a month. No way will i do that, ill just get my doctor to send a new remiss

[*kingston*]

Concerning the economy. To go to my physiotherapists cost 80:- a time so in a month ive almost got a free card. Even when i have my free card the physiotherapists get paid for me going there and its probably more than 80:- that they get. I also wonder why they decide that training should take over from physiotherapy as the physiotherapists are only with you the first couple of times. Maybe they cant be bothered with the paper work

[byke]

I wonder if kids also have to pay?

[Furu]

So how do county health services decide what is counted for the high cost health card?when is physiotherapy not physiotherapy?? ... when they call it *training*!!Is th ... (show full quote)

So how do county health services decide what is counted for the high cost health card?

when is physiotherapy not physiotherapy?? ... when they call it *training*!!

Is this a widespread thing that you get charged for your physio appointments because injury rehabilitation exerciseprogrammes have been classified as *training* rather than *physiotherapy* so they claim that you cannot use the high cost card for this and have to pay?

Anyone else had this? ... (hide full quote)

Is this applicable to certain kommuns?

[gplusa]

I racked up probably a dozen visits to a sports physio at my local gym, and they all counted towards my high cost limit. No doctor's referral and there was no question with regard to the type of treatment or the nature of the consultation. I was quite happy to pay the 100kr per visit, I thought that was a bit of a bargain. But after 3 visits they told me that I had now reached my annual total medical costs limit and there would be no charge for future visits.

[Puffin]

It seems to be something that they do when you are recieving long term treatment rather than a few weeks or months

All of the initial physiotherapy that I received when the physio came to my house and later at the district physiotherapy clinic counted towards the free card - but the current pool-based rehab they have classified as "training" that costs 50kr per session

It means I am racking up a bill of 400-600kr per month for this treatment - which is quite a blow given that I am on a reduced income

[byke]

I wonder if these costs are still applicable to children?
(i am thinking of all the kids who ride skateboards etc)

[Puffin]

As far as I know all physio for children is free - based on a friend of my daughter who ruptured her cruciate ligament figure skating

Many parents recover the full costs of their time off work to attend appointments etc for their child insurance policies

[byke]

Its a very strange policy, as it opens up the state healthcare system into greater interpretation for the future.

If citizens are expected to be cattled into taking out private subscriptions to cover or help the cost of state care, in regards to monthly passes at gyms or swimming pools etc (outsourced phisio). Then how far should this line extend?

If we see more private healthcare options springing up in sweden, could this lead to greater refusal for state treatment on the basis that local private alternatives are available?

And the emphasis on Availability, overshadowing actual state healthcare.
Thus requiring or expecting persons to carry private healthcare insurance top up policies?

[*kingston*]

It seems to be something that they do when you are recieving long term treatment rather than a few weeks or monthsAll of the initial physiotherapy that I received when the phy ... (show full quote)

It seems to be something that they do when you are recieving long term treatment rather than a few weeks or months

All of the initial physiotherapy that I received when the physio came to my house and later at the district physiotherapy clinic counted towards the free card - but the current pool-based rehab they have classified as "training" that costs 50kr per session

It means I am racking up a bill of 400-600kr per month for this treatment - which is quite a blow given that I am on a reduced income ... (hide full quote)

I would go to your doctor and ask to be remitted to another place as the free card still means that the physiotherapist get fully paid. I am in the process of doing this as with medicine and everything else its a burden to my economi if i have to start paying for "training" when i am actually sick. I wish you the best of luck

[Puffin]

I don't think that will work for me as I need a pool that is disability adapted and that has the equipment I need - I already make a 40km round trip to physio - the next nearest one means a 100km round trip

Also because the treatment is possibly a preparation for surgery - I think it might be beneficial to keep with the same physio who has been treating me since the accident and who knows the complexities of the case

I'm also finding it tough as I haven't been at work full time since the accident and 75% sick pay is sad

I just find that these strange definitions are a backdoor form of healthcare rationing

[*kingston*]

I wish you the best of luck. Ive gone through hell and am awaiting another op but dont give up, you´ll be laughing about this in a few years.
ps. i ended up with spinal cord damage all because Sahlgrenska is crap and took 2 years do do a simple operation.

[Puffin]

It's a tough one - my training card is costing 400-600 per month so it is a big cost

[Yorkshireman]

If You are employed, check with Your employer, there is a special tax deduction for companies that subsidise employee training/fitness, the amount is around 3000:- per year, so if Your training pass is 300/m, then You would pay 3600:-, claim back 3000:- as expenses from Your company, pass only costs You 600:-, and Your company claim it as a tax deductable expense.

It depends if Your employer has offered this to employees or not.