(edit title) Sick Pay - Full Pay or Part Pay? What are the employers responsibilities Options

[John.Smith]

I had a work related accident last September which will result in me needing extensive but routine surgery. I have just been told that it will be 4-6 weeks recovery time (sjukskriven).
HR have told me that I will get 80% sick pay the first 2 weeks from my employer and thereafter försäkringskassen will part pay and my employer will make up the balance to 80%, i.e. max I get is 80%. Is this right? If the cause of my illness is work related shouldn't I be entitled to full pay?

[klubbnika]

As far as I know, it is always 80%, never 100%.

Also, isn't the first day of your sickness time a so called "karensdag" when you don't get paid at all?

Are you with any union? They should have olyckfallsforsakring.

http://www.forsakringskassan.se/wps/wcm/co...pdf?MOD=AJPERES

[janine63]

I am curious to know, what is the policy in Sweden regarding a person who gives birth. Do they have the benefits? My friend is a regular hospital employee, she is foreigner in Sweden but she married a Swedish.

[Puffin]

Giving birth is covered by parental insurance not sickness insurance

If your friend has worked for the 240 days prior to the birth then they can claim up to 80% pay depending on income - if not the rate is 180kr per day

Tp expalin briefly Each baby has 16 months of parental leave that can be taken at any time until the child is 8
- 12 months are income related and 4 months at 180kr/day
- 2 months are related for the mum and the dad - the other 8 can be split as they want
most people take 1 year after the birth as the baby cannot start subsidised daycare before 12 months

[Puffin]

I had a work related accident last September which will result in me needing extensive but routine surgery. I have just been told that it will be 4-6 weeks recovery time (sjuk ... (show full quote)

I had a work related accident last September which will result in me needing extensive but routine surgery. I have just been told that it will be 4-6 weeks recovery time (sjukskriven).
HR have told me that I will get 80% sick pay the first 2 weeks from my employer and thereafter försäkringskassen will part pay and my employer will make up the balance to 80%, i.e. max I get is 80%. Is this right? If the cause of my illness is work related shouldn't I be entitled to full pay? ... (hide full quote)

80% is the standard statutory requirement for sick pay

have your employer accpeted that this was an accident at work? have you contacted your workplace and Union about your workplace insurance? As this will likely cover the difference between the state insurance and what you actually pay - they may also cover your out of pocket costs for your hospital bill, medication and any equipment you need - but you may have to claim this directly from the insurance

[John.Smith]

What I meant is that I will be out of pocket by 20% due to a workplace accident (not to mention permanent hearing loss, medical expenses etc..). Is it not normal for the employer to make up the difference in salary for the time I am sjukskriven considering it is a workplace accident?

[John.Smith]

80% is the standard statutory requirement for sick payhave your employer accpeted that this was an accident at work? have you contacted your workplace and Union about your wor ... (show full quote)

80% is the standard statutory requirement for sick pay

have your employer accpeted that this was an accident at work? have you contacted your workplace and Union about your workplace insurance? As this will likely cover the difference between the state insurance and what you actually pay - they may also cover your out of pocket costs for your hospital bill, medication and any equipment you need - but you may have to claim this directly from the insurance ... (hide full quote)

Hi Puffin,
Sorry, I was writing my last reply before I saw yours

Good idea, thank you. I am not a member of the union but know the guys very well. I will ask them what the protocol is. It looks like i may end up with a hearing aid . I have no intention to bring any legal claims or seek compensation other than loss of earnings and expenses. I was hoping that my employer would have offered this straight up.

Thanks

J:S:

[Puffin]

Good idea, thank you. I am not a member of the union but know the guys very well. I will ask them what the protocol is. It looks like i may end up with a hearing aid . I have ... (show full quote)

Good idea, thank you. I am not a member of the union but know the guys very well. I will ask them what the protocol is. It looks like i may end up with a hearing aid . I have no intention to bring any legal claims or seek compensation other than loss of earnings and expenses. I was hoping that my employer would have offered this straight up. ... (hide full quote)

Normally you don't have to go to court or anything - just make a separate insurance claim - it is only if the employer disputes the accident that it could go to court

For example I found out that my workplace have a general sickness insurance that pays my medication costs up to the 1800kr of the state insurance - all I had to do was write a letter and send the receipts and the money was paid in my next month's salary

[John.Smith]

thanks!

[Puffin]

By the way JS - if you can read Swedish I would check out what the sick-pay guidence from Socialstyrelsen is for your type of injury or operation - the guys at FK take a very narrow view of this and are reluctant to deviate from SS's guidence
http://www.socialstyrelsen.se/riktlinjer/f...nsktbeslutsstod

- so if your case is more complicated that a "normal case" you need to push your doctor to explain this in your sickness certificate
- also you need to make sure that the doctor focusses on working rather than medical situation - some are not good at this

Also if you are really unlucky you may get a FK person who cannot understand medical terminology or sick certificates - happened to me....

[John.Smith]

Thanks Puffin. I had a look through there but could not find any specific info on my condition. Basically I have lost most of my hearing though a ruptured ear drum. It was bad enough to break the 3 small bones in the inner ear as well as make my ear drum unrepairable by self healing. I am having surgery to remove some of the bone fragments, rebuild some of the inner ear and they will decide is they can fit some sort of prosthesis to help with the missing ear drum. The only reason why I need to be on sick leave is for the recovery after the operation. I can live with some hearing loss and do not expect to have my working conditions changed. Surely FK cannot argue about sick leave due to surgery??

[Puffin]

Surely FK cannot argue about sick leave due to surgery??

Each condition has a tarriff of how long working performance is affected for - which does not always accord with how long the doctor signs you off for.

However there is a problem if you do not get your sick pay straight away which is often the case

I guess what I am saying is that Sweden has a very strange system whereby you take the sick leave before you actually know whether FK are going to pay you!!