(edit title) Australian defies UN on deportation case Only spent the first 27 days of his life in Sweden Options

[Snoopy!]

interesting, mind boggling, but at the same time the swedish government should take notice with their own backyard shenanigans for those who enter Sweden but have a tendency to turn a blind eye & commit serious crimes.
The message should be clear, welcome to Sweden, abide by the laws, try & make a change in your life, but do the crime, your bags will be packed for you & sent back to where ever you came from, regardless of how long you have lived in Sweden.

I dont know what these serious crimes that Stefan Nystrom committed in Oz, therefore I have refrained from agreeing or disagreeing until I know of the crimes he committed ( potentially his crimes, are crimes where there is hope of rehabilitation ) but they may well also be heinous sexual crimes, in which case he can rot away in the woods of Scandinavia.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-25/aust...om-case/3972180

[byke]

If that story is correct, then its really disgusting the way Sweden has handled this and caused a situation where grave concern over a Swedish citizen is left homeless and without proper medical care or legal representation.

It makes me wonder just how much of a racist undertone this case has (if it is part of case, in Sweden)
Here we have a Swede who's first language is not Swedish, and from the information given in the story it would appear he doesn't speak Swedish either.

Where a citizen has been put on a plane, dumped into Swedish authorities, who in turn have failed to provide or care for this citizens well being.

In regards to Australia's handling of the case, while its not right by any means.
It is a situation where agreements for transfering people between the 2 countries for violations (since Stefan is not a Australian citizen) is considered legit based on human rights issues.

However, given Stefan's situation in Sweden and the way authorities in Sweden seem to have ignored his plight.
This may need to be re-reviewed at a later date, to see if Swedes can claim refugee status in Austria for fear of persecution or denial of basic rights due to linguistically apartheid placed upon its citizens (since Stefan is a Swedish citizen and not getting help or access to basic rights).

[AW1]

Badly handled by both governments, but racist undertones? I can't see it myself...

Here's another article: http://www.news.com.au/national/goverment-...r-1226338296069

[Snoopy!]

no I don't see the racist overtones either, but he is a sex offender seems he was a teenage kiddy fiddler

Nystrom had been convicted of aggravated rape of a 10-year-old boy when he was 16, as well as 80 other offences including arson, property damage, armed robbery, burglary and theft and drug charges. He served his sentences for those offences.

Just why should Sweden assist him ? his pilfering hands appear to have done a good job of that throughout his life

[AW1]

A bit surprising that his mother "assumed" that he was an Australian citizen. Surely that's something that you would remember?

[byke]

If he has spent over 6 years in Sweden after being deported to Sweden for not having sufficient legal documentation to qualify for citizenship in Australia. And he is now living on the streets in sweden with the medical issues claimed then there has been a serious breach of the states responsability to look after one of its returned citizens.
6 years takes the piss.

In regards to the crimes committed in Australia, they were done so in Australia and from what I understand after he served his sentences he was returned to his home country since he was not a valid Australian citizen.
Since this nonse has served his time, And the crime was committed outside of Sweden.He is free to do what he likes since he been placed into the responsability of the Swedish authorities.
But since he was placed on a return to Sweden for the authorities to look after and deal with his re-intergration. Then they seem to have serious short commings to both this person and the citizens of Sweden by allowing such deterioration.
Which begs the question ... Would this Swedish citizen suffered the same fate if he had been a natural speaking swede? Or committed a chrime such as "Darwit" (sp?) to which the state disagreed with his sentance abroad?

[AW1]

Another article on the subject: http://www.thelocal.se/5961/20070102/

@Byke: What makes you think there are racist undertones at play?

[Bender B Rodriquez]

If that story is correct, then its really disgusting the way Sweden has handled this and caused a situation where grave concern over a Swedish citizen is left homeless and wit ... (show full quote)

If that story is correct, then its really disgusting the way Sweden has handled this and caused a situation where grave concern over a Swedish citizen is left homeless and without proper medical care or legal representation.

It makes me wonder just how much of a racist undertone this case has (if it is part of case, in Sweden)
Here we have a Swede who's first language is not Swedish, and from the information given in the story it would appear he doesn't speak Swedish either.

Where a citizen has been put on a plane, dumped into Swedish authorities, who in turn have failed to provide or care for this citizens well being. ... (hide full quote)

He hasn't been dumped onto Swedish authorities. He has been deported following standard procedure, i.e. sent on the next plane to the country where he holds citizenship. There is no committee waiting for returning Swedes; once he landed it was his responsibility to seek help from the authorities, and he has surely been informed about this by the foreign ministry IF he sought legal assistance from the Swedish embassy in Australia.

[byke]

@AW1

What we have is a situation where a Swedish Citizen living in Australia is cared for during his time in Australia in accordance with the law.

This person serves his time and is deported to Sweden for not having Australian citizenship and for not qualifying for such due to his back catalog of crimes committed and subsequently paid for by the tax payers of Australia.

Sweden disputes the case, however has to accept him since he is a Swedish citizen and has no right to abode in Australia during the deportation.

Now 6 years after the deportation, and legal wrangling we see that Stefan who is a full Swedish citizen (and holds no rights to live or be allowed in Australia) after being handed over to Swedish Authorities is homeless, unemployed and what would appear to be failure by the state to look after him given his mental health and medical conditions.

So while a UN judicial hearing has RECOMMENDED that this case should be re-reviewed and for Stefan to be returned to Australia and allowed to reside there, it is only a recommendation. But this information in itself fails to address the treatment Stefan has (or has not) received while in Sweden's care.

Given the legal wrangling and the back foot Sweden has found itself on in this case and the time frame.
It would seem by all accounts that Sweden has decided to just ignore his plight and leave him in a situation that doesn't offer the same amount of care that Australia had shown him while he was in their custody.

And while I don't disagree that in terms of legal issues regarding citizenship its all messed up.
I do strongly disagree with the treatment stefan has received since being extradited back to Sweden by Swedish Authorities. And it does beg the question, given the his citizenship rights in relation to this international legal dispute if Sweden has treated him in a way that is detrimental to his human rights based on his cultural or linguistic-all background.

[byke]

He hasn't been dumped onto Swedish authorities. He has been deported following standard procedure, i.e. sent on the next plane to the country where he holds citizenship. T ... (show full quote)

He hasn't been dumped onto Swedish authorities. He has been deported following standard procedure, i.e. sent on the next plane to the country where he holds citizenship. There is no committee waiting for returning Swedes; once he landed it was his responsibility to seek help from the authorities, and he has surely been informed about this by the foreign ministry IF he sought legal assistance from the Swedish embassy in Australia. ... (hide full quote)

He is classed as having a mental disorder which is not disclosed.
But I suppose it says allot when a Swedish citizen who commits crimes in Australia is treated better there than when he is deported to Sweden (given his welfare)

[byke]

I just want to add, that I don't have all the facts and have only skimmed over the different stories.
Ad unfortunately there seem to be some large differences in the stories which make it hard to judge the full story. And so my comments are based on what I have read, but cannot be sure how legit this information is yet. but these are my views based on that info so far.

[Bender B Rodriquez]

He is classed as having a mental disorder which is not disclosed.But I suppose it says allot when a Swedish citizen who commits crimes in Australia is treated better there tha ... (show full quote)

He is classed as having a mental disorder which is not disclosed.
But I suppose it says allot when a Swedish citizen who commits crimes in Australia is treated better there than when he is deported to Sweden (given his welfare) ... (hide full quote)

In Australia he was in custody so of course he is treated well. Once in Sweden he has to seek care by himself which he apparently did not do. Since he was apparently not too ill to be deported I cannot see why he is too ill to seek help by himself.

Here is an article about it: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/32-arig-va...des-pa-arlanda/

Apparently the mother thought someone would greet him, feed him, house him and give him money. What next, a car?

The embassy informed Swedish relatives that would meet him, and informed them where to seek help if needed, but that is where the authorities' responsibility ends. Apparently, his Swedish relatives never showed up, but hey, let's blame the racist authorities.

[Migga]

The australian authorities and the mother claim that the swedish authorities would be at the airport to receive him. The swedish authorities say that they never made that statement. According to swedish authorities the embassy in Canberra had said that the mother would be there to receive him.

I wonder who is telling the truth? I wonder what the mother was doing? I wonder what she is doing now? If she told the embassy in Canberra that she would receive him then it`s up to her. She and her son then have to turn to the local municipal for assistance.

It seems to be alot of finger pointing and the mother is quick to act the victim. Australia should, of course, not have to take this man back.

[byke]

In Australia he was in custody so of course he is treated well. Once in Sweden he has to seek care by himself which he apparently did not do. Since he was apparently not too i ... (show full quote)

In Australia he was in custody so of course he is treated well. Once in Sweden he has to seek care by himself which he apparently did not do. Since he was apparently not too ill to be deported I cannot see why he is too ill to seek help by himself.

Here is an article about it: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/32-arig-va...des-pa-arlanda/

Apparently the mother thought someone would greet him, feed him, house him and give him money. What next, a car?

The embassy informed Swedish relatives that would meet him, and informed them where to seek help if needed, but that is where the authorities' responsibility ends. Apparently, his Swedish relatives never showed up, but hey, let's blame the racist authorities. ... (hide full quote)

Firstly he is over 18 (36 years of age?) so he is not the responsibility of a "family" as he is now classed as an adult.

Secondly he hasn't been in Sweden since he was 1-27 days old so shares no family bond in sweden other than ancestral.

Great to see the so called socialist state (from cradle to grave?) does less to help its own citizens in such times than foreign countries do to their non citizens who commit crimes on foreign lands.

Yeah you are right, leaving a mentally sick man with no money or shelter who also has no connection to Sweden other than by citizenship to fend for himself during a political wrangling hardly bears any racist or double standard undertones whatsoever.

It says even more when a swedish citizen who has been treated this way over a 6 year period that it would be in his better interest to try and beg for forgiveness from the county that he committed cries in and which later deported him than trying to establish himself in a country he holds citizenship or rights to help since he should know better how a system works since he has spent 27 days in that country when born.

[Bender B Rodriquez]

Firstly he is over 18 (36 years of age?) so he is not the responsibility of a "family" as he is now classed as an adult.

But he should be a responsibility of the state?

Secondly he hasn't been in Sweden since he was 1-27 days old so shares no family bond in sweden other than ancestral.

What do you know about that?

Great to see the so called socialist state (from cradle to grave?) does less to help its own citizens in such times than foreign countries do to their non citizens who commit crimes on foreign lands.

Have you been living under a rock the last 20 years? There is no "cradle to grave" anymore.

Yeah you are right, leaving a mentally sick man with no money or shelter who also has no connection to Sweden other than by citizenship to fend for himself during a political ... (show full quote)

Yeah you are right, leaving a mentally sick man with no money or shelter who also has no connection to Sweden other than by citizenship to fend for himself during a political wrangling hardly bears any racist or double standard undertones whatsoever. ... (hide full quote)

Again, what do you know about that?

Yet, even though the information at hand is sparse you have no problem whatsoever spewing your usual BS about racist authorities, as you always do.