(edit title) Sweden was mentioned in the UK newspapers today Albeit the daily mail Options

[skogsbo]

Sorry, dear, the obesity of the British people is a fact. Oh yes, I am very envious of it , NOT!. Tbh, the fysical state of other people is not my business. If you wanna b ... (show full quote)

Sorry, dear, the obesity of the British people is a fact. Oh yes, I am very envious of it , NOT!.
Tbh, the fysical state of other people is not my business. If you wanna be fat, be it.
I am mostly concerned because I have to fork out for the care of these people, caused by their own laziness and gluttony. ... (hide full quote)

If you actually read what I've wrote, I agree there are lots of fat people in the UK, there are also just as many fit people, I just don't agree with your generalisations that it is not in the UK culture to exercise, because some office worker in London said it wasn't. Sweden isn't full of summer fit Stenmarks, I've seen plenty of salad dodging physiques too, but they also had over 15,000 people attending 5 Days, only famous marathons attracts those kind of participation figures in the UK.

And please dont tell me you disagree. If the UK is so wonderful, why did you move to Sweden?

You asked this before on another thread and I told you, you'll have to search back and find it, I'm not into repetitive talking to brick walls.

ps. I didn't move here to avoid looking at fat londoners though.

[Jamtjim]

Tbh, the fysical state of other people is not my business. If you wanna be fat, be it.

Which makes me wonder why you go on about the "fysical [sic]" state of those around you quite so much. This must have been at least the third time you have brought up the subject which is quite unrelated to the topic of the thread and seems to be simply be one of your "trolling" tools which you use to try to cause offence. It is apparent from your actions that you do have an obsession with other people's weight...

I am mostly concerned because I have to fork out for the care of these people, caused by their own laziness and gluttony.

I think that is a fair price to pay for inflicting yourself upon them. Besides I do not expect that your personal contribution is very high. Do you pay tax on benefits in the UK?

Oh, and the fact that they take more space on the Tube than they pay for.

That's interesting. I never realised that London Underground sold a specified space when you bought a ticket, but I stand corrected.

If the UK is so wonderful, why did you move to Sweden?

People move for many reasons, dissatisfaction with where they lived previously need not be one of them. Perhaps the more poignant question is why did you move to a place inhabited by people you clearly hold in no regard? Could it be that you had managed to completely piss off everybody around you where you lived before with you constant whining?

[skogsbo]

Perhaps the more poignant question is why did you move to a place inhabited by people you clearly hold in no regard?

It obviously wasn't for the sugar free drinks, there is a tenuous link to obesity there though!

[gplusa]

The problem with comparing medals from hosting cities in recent times is that those hosting countries are nations that you would expect to do well at Olympic Games every time, and indeed improve from games to games. They also generally have the extra short term funding needed to pump in to ensure a home nation dominance. So it's hard to see the direct effect that hosting has. It will be interesting to see how Brazil rates next time. That's not a country which is a traditional Olympic power house, so the effect of hosting should be more pronounced. I did note that there were a lot more Brazilian athletes appearing in finals than I recall from previous events, so it seems that they are already trying to build up a home nation dominance push. While it's good for countries to perform well at international levels, I don't like seeing it coming at the expense of the grassroots sporting levels. Even if it's only a short term diversion, often it's not the same amount of funding which gets returned back to the clubs and organisations after the Olympic Games have finished. Local clubs suffer in the build up to the games, often for years, and it's difficult for them to build up again. Sweden will never be a great Olympic Games nation because they don't sacrifice sport at local levels in order to give extra funding to large numbers of elite athletes. Each to their own but I think I'd take that mindset if I had to make the choice.

[skogsbo]

Some interesting stuff here, I listened to today - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ljwmx

In summary following a statistical approach of population, funding, gdp etc we should have come 4th in the table. With China, USA and India ahead of us.

It will be interesting to see how Brazil rates next time. That's not a country which is a traditional Olympic power house, so the effect of hosting should be more pronounc ... (show full quote)

It will be interesting to see how Brazil rates next time. That's not a country which is a traditional Olympic power house, so the effect of hosting should be more pronounced. I did note that there were a lot more Brazilian athletes appearing in finals than I recall from previous events, so it seems that they are already trying to build up a home nation dominance push. ... (hide full quote)

Yeah, recent stats showed that in the run up to hosting nations do better, and in subsequent years, as the infrastructure is still there. To the point where former USSR nations are quite competitive, because all the old communist infrastructure is still in place. Which would mean in theory Greece and Austrailia, perhaps even Spain and USA should have done much better than they did?

Programme also referred to how different nation pastimes, impact medals. India - loves cricket, but zero chance of a medal. North Korea loves Taekwondo (spelling?) , loads of medal chances due to different weight classes & M/F. Which complete wrecks following a logical process of analysing how medals winner might be distributed.

While it's good for countries to perform well at international levels, I don't like seeing it coming at the expense of the grassroots sporting levels.

That's the challenge, for nearly all sports. Where all the resources chase the few, then in 10 years there is nobody to replace them.
Steve Redgrave set up a rowing programme to search for talent, which worked, as they picked up a Gold medal via it, with someone who hadn't rowed until 4 years ago.
Part of Britain's sporting problem, is it's work culture. People work too much and have little time to enjoy the simple things is life. It's all about making money to buy the materialistic stuff, even if they are working 50-60hrs a week and never get chance to enjoy it!

[gplusa]

It's a bizarre situation in New Zealand where athletes have to perform first in order to receive state funding. The problem is that once they get to the level where they can receive funding, they generally don't need the funding as they already have sponsors and endorsements. Meanwhile, the people on the level below are mortgaging their homes trying to make it up to the next step. If any athlete or sport doesn't perform, they lose their funding. Instead of there being a warning bell that the sport is in trouble and needs assistance. It's all a bit arse about face to me.

[skogsbo]

yeah, it's about spotting talent and potential, then investing in it. If someone is in a class of their own at county level, schools under 16,18,21... then chances are they'll do OK as a senior. However, if they spend all their time working to make ends meet and funding their own travel and accommodation whilst they compete, they are also unlikely to reach their true potential in the first place.

Some would argue does it matter, perhaps not with the Olympics as good as it is. But, with some sporting world cups, if you win you become next years host. Which is often worth mega bucks, as all the infrastructure like football and rugby stadiums is already in place.

[Garry Jones]

> And please dont tell me you disagree. If the UK is so wonderful, why did you move to Sweden?

Erh? Never heard of "I claim this land for Queen and country?"

I think most expats feel we have made this country a slightly more jovial place to live in.

[trumanshow]

If population same of 10 000 is the representative, how come YOU generalize here yourself?I repeat it once again for everybody: Nowhere have I seen so many fat and obese peopl ... (show full quote)

If population same of 10 000 is the representative, how come YOU generalize here yourself?

I repeat it once again for everybody: Nowhere have I seen so many fat and obese people gathered in in the same place as in the UK. ... (hide full quote)

you obviously haven't been to Sundsvall recently. Lard central.

[Svensksmith]

I think I'm in much better shape in my 50's than I was in my 30's (if you disregard the excessive flatulance, toenail fungus, wrinkles, aches and pains, hair sprouting from odd places and the..ahh, ahh, what was that...oh yeah, memory loss). Other than that, I'm top notch.

[sometimesinsweden]

you obviously haven't been to Sundsvall recently. Lard central.

Nordstan in Gothenburg or the one in Frolunda arent exactly full of the outdoorsy types either - reminds me of a shopping centre in Wigan.

Sweden does seem to be catching up fast with the UK, well certainly in the urban areas. those kebab pizzas cant be helping.

what i do prefer about Sweden is that women seem to be more interested in sport and activities than the UK - always see groups of swedish girls skiing, doing evening sport etc which although does exist, but isnt as common at home.