(edit title) Advice needed - citizenship questions for new born Our girl will be born abroad, implications? Options

[dave.smith]

I have a complex scenario that I would like an opinion on, especially from Puffin and the other big boys of Swedology that frequent this site

We are going to be in South Africa when our baby girl is born, as it will be in February, during our annual overseas trip. (We have a house on the South Coast). Now what I want to know is:

1. Will there be any ill effects from her getting dual SA-Swedish citizenship?
2. Is there a possibility of her getting triple citizenship? (SA because she was born there, UK through me and SE through her mom)?
3. Since we may not have time to get a British or SE passport before we come back, (for her) what would the implications be of her entering Schengen with an SA passport? Do we need to apply for a visa for her, despite her having two EU national parents and an EU national brother? (Could the Swedish embassy issue a temporary residence document in leui of a passport?)

Of course, in the case of a negative answer for 3, we could always extend the trip to give the embassy time to get her an EU passport, but I don't want to extend it too much as I will have work concerns to attend to in March.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Yorkshireman]

SA because she was born there

Not possible for SA, since neither You nor your partner is a permanent resident or citizen of SA? Citizenship by birth in SA depends upon that.

[dave.smith]

Hi Yorkshire,

Sorry, I should have included: I grew up in both SA and the UK, lived in SA for many years, and have dual citizenship (although I fear I might have to drop one if I become a Swedish citizen which looks likely).

[aino]

I know everyone means well, but you'd be better off calling Migrationsverket.

For what it's worth:

• Multiple citizenships is not a problem (for Sweden)
• You may need a Swedish passport for the kid to re-enter Sweden (technically, they tell you you have to enter Sweden using your Swedish passport if you have Swedish citizenship - this is possible somehow to get for kids if they are born elsewhere, as I understand)

[dave.smith]

Hi aino,

I agree 100%. There definitely is a way to get her a passport while we are overseas, but the concern is waiting times.

[John.Smith]

Waiting times for my kids that were born outside Sweden were 1 week from application. Contact the Swedish embassy/consulate services in South Africa in advance and ask them for advice.

Your child is unlikely to get SA passport unless you reside there full time. She will get dual UK and SWE .

[skogsbo]

do you have to go to SA, you'll flying when she is fairly far gone and already have 1 to look after? Plus we'll get another thread in March about how your staff don't respect you, which is hardly suprising if the Boss has been out of the country then busy for the previous 3 or 4 months? Why don't you try and stack life in your favour, not against?

[Puffin]

Which passport are you planning to get for the baby? If it is not an EU passport then you may need a visa for the baby to enter Sweden. A UK passport may take 4-8 weeks if it needs to be processed in Dusseldorf

You may also not be able to get paid any Swedish parental leave until you have returned to Sweden and registered the child as a resident

Also you need to check out what coverage you have - most travel insurance policies do not cover ANY pregnancy related problems/emergencies after 28 weeks - so there can be a huge cost if she goes into labour unexpectedly and the plane has to be diverted etc - read about a case where the parents ended up with a bill of $100,000

Most airlines will not fly you at all within 6 weeks of the estimated birth

[mångk]

For holidays???

Dave I must say that sounds very irresponsible!

You have one small child and one almost due (at the time of birth) and you are going to take significant risks for a holiday?

In your position I would be cancelling the holiday and making sure the family is the first priority!

Sorry.

[dave.smith]

Why can't we do both - prioritise our family, but have a nice warm weather holiday?

Puffin, I understand what you're saying, but we will be flying 2 months before the actual birth...

[John.Smith]

Hope it is a private hospital that your good wife will be going to?

[mångk]

Why can't we do both - prioritise our family, but have a nice warm weather holiday?

Think about the answer to that question and have a look at what word you used to join the two concepts together!

[skogsbo]

Why can't we do both - prioritise our family, but have a nice warm weather holiday?

You can holiday once it's over and the kids are old enough to enjoy and remember it? Presuming many things, you have your whole lives, why be selfish and think of your wifes and kids health, not your sunny break?

I presume you have found yourself a trustworthy deputy / office manager for when you abandon your business for 3 months?

What if there are complications and she can't fly back to Sweden with you for several months? Are you coming back and leaving her in SA, or staying away longer?

It's goes back to that other thread, sometimes science qualifications and other valuable attributes aren't interlinked.

[mångk]

It's goes back to that other thread, sometimes science qualifications and other valuable attributes aren't interlinked.

Brilliant skogsbo!

Dave, what I seriously recommend for you given the background information you have provided over time is that you spend the time and effort to do a decent cognitive thinking course!

[byke]

My advice would be to birth in the UK.