(edit title) I failed to overcome it - Can you help me out? How to change? Options

[Yorkshireman]

It's not just Sweden is the adult virgin becoming more rare In Europe, by the time teens reach 17 the majority have had sex ... in Sweden the average age of 1st intercourse is 15, in Southern Europe it is higher, around 17.

Maybe camping outside a convent and catching the nuns, that have renounced their vows, as they leave is the only solution for you dude!

[Elf_Moon]

The more I think about it. The more I feel it silly of him to demand of his partner that she be a virgin when he has had so many partners himself.

It is certainly not reasonable to ask women to adhere to such rules and yet run about with all and sundry in such a way.

[Hisingen]

As I remarked earlier, 'Try before you Buy' works both ways, for both men and women. After all compatibility is a two-way thing.
I reckon the whole thing gets summed up in the OPs heading - 'I failed'.

[How2012]

@sometimesinsweden
Thank you so much for your input. I really appreciate it. I admit that I have insecurity issues when it comes to this matter. Honestly, The only hope I have is keep on convincing (Or maybe bullshiting) myself that when the right woman come, then, everything is gonna be all right...

Nevertheless, I somewhat partly disagree with you regarding your last statement "Sometimes sex is just sex - physical pleasure. Not dirty or tainted, just enjoyable fun".

Of course I do see that Sex is fun, But at the same time when I think about it... Geeze...:

- That girl was willingly spreading her legs for n-number of guys.

- That girl was having n-number of guys in her mouth, and now you wanna enjoy kissing that mouth or let your children be kissed by that mouth.

- What if you were walking with that girl (Who she became your wife) and you met with one of her ex-boyfriends, and he looked into your eyes and told you that your lovely wife spent hours and hours on her knees giving him pleasurable times.

Those are RED flags. I can't let it slide !

@Elf_Moon
I don't know what part of the world are you living in. I have been with only 9 women and that is nothing compare to the vast majority of guys. To confirm, Try yourself and post a question on this forum asking what is your number and I bet that you will find the average for guys is 20 or even more.

Ladies are known to be liars especially when it comes to number whatever number they say means that number * 3 (at least).

Anyhow, I was an innocent holy goon who never touched or kissed a girl till I was 24 years. I was dreaming of meeting the right holy and clean girl who I will fall for. But it turns out that I was living in a f***kedup dream, and when I woke from that coma I tried hard to compromise my principles and morals to date other women.

@Gamla Hälsingebock
"You're just looking for an excuse to not to get married"

No, I am not. On the contrary, I want to get married and have children. But sadly many women in this world are not clean enough to be wives.

@Gina88
You need to put on your glasses and re-read my post one more time, Because I stated that I'm not a religious person at all.

@axiom & @Yorkshireman
You are missing my point. Hymen means nothing to me at all. I bet that there are some virgin girls out there without morals nor values... Are those marriage material? Absolutely NOT.

If I met a divorced woman and loved her, then, I would be glad to propose.

Why a divorced woman is different?
In my opinion, Because:
- She has a better respected values.
- She loves herself and her body. That's why she only gives it to the one who she was married to not for a bunch of n-guys in collage or the like.

Can you dig it?

@Svensksmith & @Hisingen
This is the problem which I hope to find an answer for. How did it work for you ?

[Yorkshireman]

- She loves herself and her body. That's why she only gives it to the one who she was married to not for a bunch of n-guys in collage or the like.

Good one!

In the USA by the time they graduate high school a girl has had on average 6 sexual partners. Sweden is more liberal, and the rest of Europe is not far behind.

I rather believe it is You that doesn't understand the point ... either accept the fact that other guys have certainly been there before You, or give up looking ... since each girl You start your relationship with and walk out due to Your problem, potentially causes emotional/mental problems for Her ...do you use the classic ... it's not You, it's Me ... line

Mind You... if you like divorcees, then Sweden is the place for You! ...with 50%+ marriages ending in divorce there are plenty to choose from!

[axiom]

@sometimesinsweden@axiom & @YorkshiremanYou are missing my point. Hymen means nothing to me at all. I bet that there are some virgin girls out there without morals nor val ... (show full quote)

@sometimesinsweden

@axiom & @Yorkshireman
You are missing my point. Hymen means nothing to me at all. I bet that there are some virgin girls out there without morals nor values... Are those marriage material? Absolutely NOT.

If I met a divorced woman and loved her, then, I would be glad to propose.

Why a divorced woman is different?
In my opinion, Because:
- She has a better respected values.
- She loves herself and her body. That's why she only gives it to the one who she was married to not for a bunch of n-guys in collage or the like.

Can you dig it? ... (hide full quote)

No I can't, I speak English, Swedish and a little Spanish, Danish and Norwegian BUT I don't understand bullsh*t I'm afraid, need a translator.

What difference is it for the woman who has the chance of seeing your NINE other women walking by and grinning, "i've had him" - Is she supposed to think "whoopie whoo, I'm dating the town stallion?"

What about her feelings!?!

Expect the same of a woman she should expect of you, nothing more - nothing less That's the beauty of a free open and equal society.

Want a virgin or woman who "respects herself" and don't sleep around - do the same dude ! If you can sleep with 9 women, why didn't YOU save yourself for marriage? why not? what makes it acceptable when a man does it and not a woman?

I'm a guy, but to think that there are men out there who would see my sisters and daughters like this irritates me deeply.

[Elf_Moon]

Sorry but I had a laugh out loud moment there...

I come from the UK (typical girl, born in England, not religious etc etc) and apparently we are all 'sleep abouts' But 20 would make you untouchable! Lol... 20.. My god... Sure there are men out there who have had 20 girls but men like that get a reputation and women like me give them a wide berth should we somehow catch, through any form of contact, whatever it is that they've managed to likely catch on their many expeditions.

I have mostly male friends and knowing them well, I can assure you that most of them have had only 2-3 partners. 20 would be disgusting!

Ug, 20 ... We have a special word for people like that where I come from ^.^ and I must have the strangest friends in the world- being as obviously 'chaste' as they are.

I guess I just hang out with a different sort of people... *shrug* I suppose everyone is different, different friends...

You are missing my point with my posts though. You can't demand a woman have no partners when you have had so many.

[axiom]

Where is Anne Robinson when you need her

[Kalyissa]

Sorry but I had a laugh out loud moment there... I come from the UK (typical girl, born in England, not religious etc etc) and apparently we are all 'sleep abouts' Bu ... (show full quote)

Sorry but I had a laugh out loud moment there...

I come from the UK (typical girl, born in England, not religious etc etc) and apparently we are all 'sleep abouts' But 20 would make you untouchable! Lol... 20.. My god... Sure there are men out there who have had 20 girls but men like that get a reputation and women like me give them a wide berth should we somehow catch, through any form of contact, whatever it is that they've managed to likely catch on their many expeditions.

I have mostly male friends and knowing them well, I can assure you that most of them have had only 2-3 partners. 20 would be disgusting!

Ug, 20 ... We have a special word for people like that where I come from ^.^ and I must have the strangest friends in the world- being as obviously 'chaste' as they are.

I guess I just hang out with a different sort of people... *shrug* I suppose everyone is different, different friends...

You are missing my point with my posts though. You can't demand a woman have no partners when you have had so many. ... (hide full quote)

I agree with you,

9 girls? Thats a lot even now, To be honest i would consider you a male w****e,

How can you expect a girl to choose you knowing full well you have slept with 9 other woment, Even if shes only slept with 1-2? Or wait im guessing you would lie and say you have only slept with one?

Theres one English saying I can come up with to describe you

"chauvinistic pig"

Personally I've only dated two guys and my current boyfriend I have been with since i met him at the age of 23, He was my proper first and Im pretty sure hes dated girls in the past but we don't discuss it just like we don't discuss my ex.

Girls should stay clear of men like you since its obvious you see them as property.

[Elf_Moon]

Kalyissa, I think that ultimately our words will be of no use. I've met many a man like him in the past and then promptly side stepped around them. You can't talk sense into people like this.

I think I will try to stop wasting my efforts here, he clearly has problems that only a professional can fix; looking at the previous post he left for us, the way he describes women hints at some deeper issues. *nod* I certainly wouldn't want to meet him, alone, on a dark night :/

[dave.smith]

Who'd want to be with a completely inexperienced woman anyway?

My advice to the OP would be to not even use this as a criterion. Rather look at physical as well as emotional merit.

Worrying about whether she has had previous partners is silly.

[Fishtank]

OP seems like reincarnation of....???

As I am posting after long time can anybody help me here. Thanks.

*Discussion continues.

[mångk]

OP - you could try meeting a 'woman' here: http://www.intim24.se/sexleksaker/sexdockor/c24/

If you have a job you could buy a new woman every time you have finished with the old one!

You do not have to worry about other guys putting bits in their mouths.

Just out of curiousity -

How exactly does divorce erase the amounts of guys that have been with a woman?

[John.Smith]

@OP...

Thou art a Troll... begone henceforth with thee and thine toxic verbiage from this forum. A hex upon thee and thine kin! Thou h'ast rendered The Local unclean!

[sometimesinsweden]

Nothing wrong with a bit of sport fucking if you're single. It's all part of having fun and what's the point of over-analysing it. Some people enjoy sex, exploring each others bodies, without the hassle of a relationship. Who cares about numbers as long as you practise safe sex and are clean. Why get so religious and puritanical about it. From my experience, it's those that are so buttoned up about this aspect of life that have the problems later. It's a complete fallacy that sex has to be whilst in a relationship - there's many different types of sex so why shouldn't either a woman or man experiment with it. Fact of the matter is that if you're with a woman (or man) who has only ever slept with you, they're going to start fantasising about others later in life, if they've had previous encounters, at least they've got experience to save actually following through these fantasies.

I don't know exactly how many women I've slept with as I've never kept count or keep a diary and I haven't asked for exact numbers from partners in the past. As long as they faithful in the relationship who cares. Most people go through a 'slutty' phase at some point.