(edit title) EU citizen, without personnummer, looking for job. I´m trying to find a work here, lost in Sweden Options

[molnman]

Hi! so, as the title says, I´m EU citizens who moves a while ago here (cause love), but due to some papers I don´t have a personnumer,( I have to show the EU-insurance card, which I don´t have now). I´m registred in migrationsverket, which I don´t know which use has.
But, I´m looking for job, and, what I wanna know is this:

-Can I start a work without a personnummer? (I mean, is it necessary to have a personnummer to work?or not?)
-If I got a work contract, then can I get the personnumer?

so, looks like 2 simple questions! hope the answers are too!

[HannahSwain]

If you're registered at Migrationverket, then you probably have received your Right to Reside. I did it via a contract for work, not sure how you did it and what consequences that has.

You can get work without a personnummer. In fact, Skatteverket generally won't give you a personnummer until they see that you need one. Once you get a job with a contract, bring that contract and your Right to Reside to Skatteverket. If you've got a contract for six months or less, they will give you a samordningsnummer instead, which is basically a personnummer that you can't do much with except pay taxes.

Hope that answers your questions.

[Yorkshireman]

How are you registered with Migrationsverket, Right to Reside based upon what?, Sufficient means, work (obviously not), student, job seeking ?

If you are in Sweden as an EU Job Seeker, then You are only allowed to stay maximum of 6 months, You will not be given a personnummer from Skatteverket.

Right now, without Your EHIC card, You are risking high medical bills.

If you find work, then you can go to Skatteverket for the personnummer, but again, You need to prove that You will be here for 12 months or longer, and take the employment contract including contact details for the employer etc..., then it only take a short while to get the number.

[molnman]

hi again!! thanx for the fast reply.
ya, I am registered in Migrationsverket based upon sufficiente means (I had some saved money, and also showed my girlfriend contract, showing that she could help me economically).

The EHIC: I know that it could become a problem, so I have to take care , but, I cant get it yet, cause it has to be issued by my country. (i wrote that before, cause maybe it was important for getting a contract), also, I wrote that, cause, it was the last step to do the personnummer in skatteverket, (I was trying to register as sambo, and they were asking for the EHIC or a private insurance, which could cost a bit).

so, as I guess now, I can get a contract, go to skatterverket with details of the employer, and with the migrationsverket paper which shows I have the resident permit.

[JulieLou40]

(I was trying to register as sambo, and they were asking for the EHIC or a private insurance, which could cost a bit).

That's a mistake, because the sambo permit is the best one to get. You don't need your own medical insurance with that.

[Puffin]

It would be much better to get a "family ties" permit based on cohabitation with a Swedish citizen

As Julie Lou says - then you are automatically entitled to healthcare/personal number/SFI etc

[molnman]

I knew the best way was sambo, but, as I said, I hadnt the EHIC, so it was impossible. And I didnt want to pay so much for a private insurance. those were the only two possibilities. without and insurance I couldnt register as sambo, that was what they told, they wrote me, and repeat me in skatteverket...
so, now, I am trying to do it from another way...

and, I dont know if i understand, but, are you saying that there is at Migrationsverket a Sambo permit??

[Mpf]

I'm a little confused. I understand that you now need to show that you have medical insurance when first coming to Sweden in order to live (This is a new requirement that wasn't in place when I moved here and understand it is to deter those just seeking medical treatment)

The EHIC card is NOT medical insurance and only offers limited cover. It quite clearly states that the holder should receive the same emergency treatment they would expect to receive in their home country and will not cover repatriation back to your homeland should you get injured and require a medical flight back home.

Please do not confuse the requirement with medical insurance and the EHIC card. I don't think migrationsverket accepts the EHIC card as medical insurance anyway.

See this link to see what is covered by EHIC:

http://www.applyehic.org/whatcoverd.html

[Yorkshireman]

I'm a little confused. I understand that you now need to show that you have medical insurance when first coming to Sweden in order to live (This is a new requirement that ... (show full quote)

I'm a little confused. I understand that you now need to show that you have medical insurance when first coming to Sweden in order to live (This is a new requirement that wasn't in place when I moved here and understand it is to deter those just seeking medical treatment) ... (hide full quote)

As part of the EU Freedom of Movement, the Right to Reside is granted on condition that you are not a burden to the welfare state. The requirement for Comprehensive Insurance is only applied to certain groups. Mainly those stating that they have sufficient means.

The EHIC card is NOT medical insurance and only offers limited cover. It quite clearly states that the holder should receive the same emergency treatment they would expect to ... (show full quote)

The EHIC card is NOT medical insurance and only offers limited cover. It quite clearly states that the holder should receive the same emergency treatment they would expect to receive in their home country and will not cover repatriation back to your homeland should you get injured and require a medical flight back home. ... (hide full quote)

Exactly. It is part of the bill back mechanism, even if You are a tourist going between EU states You should keep the EHIC card with You. It shows You are covered by another Member States Medical Welfare system, so the Member State You are in doesn't need to bill You directly, they claim it back from the State that issued the EHIC card.

Please do not confuse the requirement with medical insurance and the EHIC card. I don't think migrationsverket accepts the EHIC card as medical insurance anyway.

As mentioned above, EHIC is only required by certain groups of Eu citizens registering their right to reside.

[molnman]

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[molnman]

As part of the EU Freedom of Movement, the Right to Reside is granted on condition that you are not a burden to the welfare state. The requirement for Comprehensive Insurance is only applied to certain groups. Mainly those stating that they have sufficient means.

first I went to Skatterverket, and they ask me for the insurance. (an EHIC or privat insurance) then I went to migrationsverket, they didnt ask me for the isurance, but about the money, thats how I did it.
but, now, if I get a job, I have to go again to migrations? then to skatterverket? and finally I get a personnumer???

[Mpf]

they were asking for the EHIC or a private insurance, which could cost a bit

EHIC cards are free!

[molnman]

of course they are free!!
I was talking about the privat insurance. cause I couldnt get my free EHIC in my country.

[claudiacpc]

That's a mistake, because the sambo permit is the best one to get. You don't need your own medical insurance with that.

Does that mean you get medical insurance once your sambo permit has been approved? I am staying in Sweden on sambo terms, but I am so lost as to whether or not I am entitled to health care or anything (I have a personnummer and ID card issued by Skatteverket).

It would be much better to get a "family ties" permit based on cohabitation with a Swedish citizenAs Julie Lou says - then you are automatically entitled to healthca ... (show full quote)

It would be much better to get a "family ties" permit based on cohabitation with a Swedish citizen

As Julie Lou says - then you are automatically entitled to healthcare/personal number/SFI etc ... (hide full quote)

This 'family ties' permit you are talking about, is it the same as sambo? I just want to know whether or not I have healthcare.

I knew the best way was sambo, but, as I said, I hadnt the EHIC, so it was impossible. And I didnt want to pay so much for a private insurance. those were the only two possibi ... (show full quote)

I knew the best way was sambo, but, as I said, I hadnt the EHIC, so it was impossible. And I didnt want to pay so much for a private insurance. those were the only two possibilities. without and insurance I couldnt register as sambo, that was what they told, they wrote me, and repeat me in skatteverket...
so, now, I am trying to do it from another way...

and, I dont know if i understand, but, are you saying that there is at Migrationsverket a Sambo permit?? ... (hide full quote)

I am also an EU passport holder and living in Sweden on a sambo permit and, but I don't have insurance either. I had stated that in the forms as well, but my application was still approved.

[molnman]

Does that mean you get medical insurance once your sambo permit has been approved? I am staying in Sweden on sambo terms, but I am so lost as to whether or not I am entitled t ... (show full quote)

Does that mean you get medical insurance once your sambo permit has been approved? I am staying in Sweden on sambo terms, but I am so lost as to whether or not I am entitled to health care or anything (I have a personnummer and ID card issued by Skatteverket).

This 'family ties' permit you are talking about, is it the same as sambo? I just want to know whether or not I have healthcare.

I am also an EU passport holder and living in Sweden on a sambo permit and, but I don't have insurance either. I had stated that in the forms as well, but my application was still approved. ... (hide full quote)

so, maybe, you did it before june of 2011. cause then they changed the law for registering at skatteverket... But now, they asked me for it: an EHIC or a privat insurance, of course, showing that my partner have work contract, and that I have some money.