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Getting on my nerves

Untold rules

GK-
post 13.Sep.2012, 12:08 PM
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Joined: 13.Sep.2012

Hi,

This is the third incident in couple of weeks. Better they give a handbook of rules when entering Sweden..

1 my child was coughing in the bus( he usually coughs after running ) Free advice and order from a lady ," he is too sick to be at school, take him back home ".

2 we are bit early to the school( international) waiting in the school lobby with the kids. One parent telling " your kid is talking too much i cannot concentrate , ask him to be quiet ". Can't a child talk even in the public (at school lobby!

3 today I was standing in a bus stop many were sitting behind me, my bus was there I am about to step into as I was the one standing right next to the door, I was stopped by a man saying there is a queue here..,! People sitting behind me were supposed to go in first ...What... Should I keep looking how many ppl are there in the bus stop waiting for this particular bus and keep waiting for them even though I stand closer to the door..

I do understand queuing is a public etiquette but when there is nobody literally standing in the queue and there are plenty of buses comming to the bus stop how to identify who came before and after me.


Is it very normal here ? If so what are more things to be followed here ?

Thanks for hearing ,
Gk


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Programmeny
post 13.Sep.2012, 12:16 PM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 2.Aug.2012

I usually tell to all those people: "Fuck off".

In English.
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Snood
post 13.Sep.2012, 12:20 PM
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Location: Gothenburg
Joined: 20.Sep.2011

I haven't experienced any of what you say. It's my experience that the locals never say anything to anyone. With your examples I would consider them all to be unreasonable uptight people.

...

I do shout at people pushing onto buses and trams whilst there are still clearly people getting off. It outrages me.
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 13.Sep.2012, 12:23 PM
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Joined: 25.Mar.2006

Haha, I can't say anything about the first two, but no. 3 is laughable. Do you live in a small town? In the cities people just cram themselves onto the bus, with no consideration for queues or for people wanting to get off the bus.
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Puffin
post 13.Sep.2012, 12:25 PM
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Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

QUOTE (GK- @ 13.Sep.2012, 01:08 PM) *
Hi,This is the third incident in couple of weeks. Better they give a handbook of rules when entering Sweden..1 my child was coughing in the bus( he usually coughs after runni ... (show full quote)


Not quite sure why your child was running - were you late? Does your child have an underlying condition such as asthma that requires treatment?

However it is a big hatred of mine if people spray me with their germs coughing on public transport - I don't think it's a Swedis thing


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2 we are bit early to the school( international) waiting in the school lobby with the kids. One parent telling " your kid is talking too much i cannot concentrate , ask him to be quiet ". Can't a child talk even in the public (at school lobby!


Depends - normal conversation is OK and the other person might be over sensitive - but this is an international school right - so how would it be necessarily a "Swedish" thing?


If a child is being loud in a lobby where others are working or prepapring for meetings/interviews then I woul expect a parent to quieten their child or perhaps take them out to the playground rather than disturb people - it is a politeness/consideration thing that your do not disturb others - unless your child has a disability


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3 today I was standing in a bus stop many were sitting behind me, my bus was there I am about to step into as I was the one standing right next to the door, I was stopped by a man saying there is a queue here..,! People sitting behind me were supposed to go in first ...What... Should I keep looking how many ppl are there in the bus stop waiting for this particular bus and keep waiting for them even though I stand closer to the door..


I am British and your behaviour would be considered rude - to automatically assume that you can jump the queue without even a brief look around to see if people waiting longer - especially older/disabled people might want to get the bus - so not a Swedish thing but a being polite thing



A lot of the examples that you cite are not "Swedish" but to do with being polite/showing consideration to those around you - fairly normal in the UK as well - but perhaps you come from a country where these are not important values?



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teslar
post 13.Sep.2012, 12:31 PM
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Joined: 23.Jul.2009

Gotta agree with Bender. Orderly queues in public transport isn't really something I've noticed in Sweden.

Next time you're at a butcher's, bank office or similar, keep your kölapp. Then, the next time someone tells you about a queue in ridiculous places, whip out your kölapp and say "I've taken my number; where's yours?". It will throw them off long enough to let you get onto the bus.
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Migga
post 13.Sep.2012, 01:35 PM
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Joined: 26.Jul.2011

QUOTE (GK- @ 13.Sep.2012, 12:08 PM) *
Is it very normal here ? If so what are more things to be followed here ?

How does one define normal? I guess what you describe isn`t alien in any way, it does happen. But I wouldn`t draw any bigger conclusions from it. Do you often take things to heart when a stranger says something to you or is it a recent thing? If so is it because you are in a new country?

Otherwise I would think that when you are in public you should try and act respectfull of other peoples personal space. That includes not disturbing the peace, don`t spread sickness and don`t cut ahead in queues.
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byke
post 13.Sep.2012, 01:42 PM
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Location: Europe
Joined: 28.Oct.2008

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1 my child was coughing in the bus( he usually coughs after running ) Free advice and order from a lady ," he is too sick to be at school, take him back home ".

I am not justifying it, but it could have just been personal concern.

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we are bit early to the school( international) waiting in the school lobby with the kids. One parent telling " your kid is talking too much i cannot concentrate , ask him to be quiet ". Can't a child talk even in the public (at school lobby!

International school, as far as I know here is only 1 of those at present in Sweden.
There are a fair amount of schools claiming to be international, the same there are a fair amount of schools that call themselves a university (when they are not) Could you clarify this?

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3 today I was standing in a bus stop many were sitting behind me, my bus was there I am about to step into as I was the one standing right next to the door, I was stopped by a man saying there is a queue here..,! People sitting behind me were supposed to go in first ...What... Should I keep looking how many ppl are there in the bus stop waiting for this particular bus and keep waiting for them even though I stand closer to the door..

As others said, its a very rare thing for manners to play a part in such things in Sweden.
But personally I am a fan of manners so this time I will give a real and non sarcastic Heja Sverige in this sense. Actually, scrub that ... make it a Heja 08! yay!

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I do understand queuing is a public etiquette but when there is nobody literally standing in the queue and there are plenty of buses comming to the bus stop how to identify who came before and after me.

Observation old boy.

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Is it very normal here ? If so what are more things to be followed here ?

No but that aspect is not a negative.
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Fernandis
post 13.Sep.2012, 01:57 PM
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Joined: 16.Jul.2007

QUOTE (Programmeny @ 13.Sep.2012, 01:16 PM) *
I usually tell to all those people: "Fuck off".. In English.



hahahahha...well said wink.gif always say this word in ENGLISH, but if u say in broken SWEDISH, they'll assume u r a refugee/asylum seeker.
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byke
post 13.Sep.2012, 01:59 PM
Post #10
Location: Europe
Joined: 28.Oct.2008

If someone said that to me, I would ask them to watch their French.
Thats no way to speak in public around women and children.
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Yorkshireman
post 13.Sep.2012, 04:01 PM
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011

QUOTE (byke @ 13.Sep.2012, 01:59 PM) *
If someone said that to me, I would ask them to watch their French.

Nah... I have this feeling that You would come directly to the Local and start a thread pointing to an article you read stating that the English pronunciation of "F*ck Off" is much worse in Sweden than it is in other European countries, and is that a sign of poor English Language skills in Swedish education, maybe cross referencing that to longitude and latitude and lack of 4G connectivity by the new iPhone... rolleyes.gif
wink.gif
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skogsbo
post 13.Sep.2012, 04:25 PM
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Joined: 20.Sep.2011

QUOTE (byke @ 13.Sep.2012, 01:59 PM) *
If someone said that to me, I would ask them to watch their French.. Thats no way to speak in public around women and children.

Swedes use th F word all the time, you'll get it on daytime radio at 8 or 9 in the morning. Purely because they know it's a swear word, but have no idea on the scale where it falls in severity, so they just fire it off left, right and centre!

Chance for a another thread there for you too. smile.gif
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sometimesinsweden
post 13.Sep.2012, 04:27 PM
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Joined: 15.Jun.2012

Ye - because it's foreign its meaningless. no difffernt to an english kid using the f word that sounds a bit like a goatmilk cheese.
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cogito
post 13.Sep.2012, 04:29 PM
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Joined: 30.Dec.2009

QUOTE (GK- @ 13.Sep.2012, 11:08 AM) *
I was standing in a bus stop...

There is total anarchy when the bus arrives at the stop. This is because no one knows how to queue without the little number tags.

QUOTE (Migga @ 13.Sep.2012, 12:35 PM) *
... you should try and act respectfull of other peoples personal space...

One of the commonest observations among newcomers is the pushing, shoving and shouldering of people out of the way without so much as an "excuse me." Don't think Swedes have any lessons to give on "personal space."
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skogsbo
post 13.Sep.2012, 04:44 PM
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Joined: 20.Sep.2011

QUOTE (sometimesinsweden @ 13.Sep.2012, 04:27 PM) *
Ye - because it's foreign its meaningless. no difffernt to an english kid using the f word that sounds a bit like a goatmilk cheese.

They know it's wrong, or poor English, but think it's like $hit or Cra_ etc.. At the end of the day it is I suppose all relevant to your audience, it's only if our 3 or 5 year picks it up and then uses it when we visit some elderly relatives later in the year in the UK, they'd have a heart attack!
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