(edit title) Getting on my nerves Untold rules Options

[Snood]

If someone said that to me, I would ask them to watch their French.. Thats no way to speak in public around women and children.

Whilst I agree with you on many things Byke, I do find your attitude towards swear words and women to be very out of date. Do you really think that women are all withering, weak sensitive flowers who should be protected from the world? Women have fought a long hard battle for equality and to me, this means equality across the board.

I try no to use much vulgar language but not because of some misplaced extra respect for women but because it's just not pleasant to anyone.

There is total anarchy when the bus arrives at the stop. This is because no one knows how to queue without the little number tags.

Qhite right, at the customer services of ElGiganten the other month I had to tell a women to wait in line like everybody else. There was no ticket queue.

[skogsbo]

One of the commonest observations among newcomers is the pushing, shoving and shouldering of people out of the way without so much as an "excuse me." Don't think ... (show full quote)

One of the commonest observations among newcomers is the pushing, shoving and shouldering of people out of the way without so much as an "excuse me." Don't think Swedes have any lessons to give on "personal space." ... (hide full quote)

you mean like on the UK's public transport, especially London, everyone is so polite, no shoving, no rushing, everyone patiently waiting in their own space, keeping out the way of everyone else??????

I know you probably don't use them, but have you seen Brits when Easyjet or RyanAir suddenly open a new check in desk, it's like a stampede! (this applies to any flight, not just those to Sweden).

[Snood]

I know you probably don't use them, but have you seen Brits when Easyjet or RyanAir suddenly open a new check in desk, it's like a stampede! (this applies to any f ... (show full quote)

I know you probably don't use them, but have you seen Brits when Easyjet or RyanAir suddenly open a new check in desk, it's like a stampede! (this applies to any flight, not just those to Sweden). ... (hide full quote)

This applies to any nationality to any destination by these airlines.

[mångk]

at the customer services of ElGiganten the other month I had to tell a women to wait in line like everybody else. There was no ticket queue.

I was at Stadium (should I be admitting that?? ) a month or so ago. There were 2 young ladies serving 1 longish queue of customers, when one of them was free a customer decided to avoid the queue and went straight up to one of the staff and put the purchases on the counter. Much to the shock and horror of us waiting at front end of the queue.

The young lady serving seen the response and said the customer "No, you must wait in turn" and dismissing the customers protests sent them with a pointing motion to the back of the queue.

I couldn't help but reward the young lady with a big smile. She returned the smile and then served the next customer. I ended up being served by her, she was very pleasant.

[byke]

Whilst I agree with you on many things Byke, I do find your attitude towards swear words and women to be very out of date. Do you really think that women are all withering, we ... (show full quote)

Whilst I agree with you on many things Byke, I do find your attitude towards swear words and women to be very out of date. Do you really think that women are all withering, weak sensitive flowers who should be protected from the world? Women have fought a long hard battle for equality and to me, this means equality across the board.

I try no to use much vulgar language but not because of some misplaced extra respect for women but because it's just not pleasant to anyone. ... (hide full quote)

It was a little bit of tongue n cheek to be honest.
While I am an advocate for profanity in many senses, I do find it is often used in Sweden too much in the mainstream. Words hold the value that we give them and far too often the use of English based profanity is used by the natives without any restriction or often justification which in many ways is disrespectful since it dilutes the value of a language which is unfair.

The use of such language has to serve a purpose (IMHO) as otherwise it becomes benign.
Women who use such language on an daily basis without merrit may think its a great way to offer a 3 fingers down salute to sexual oppression - but in my view it's still just lipstick on a pig. Or Chavy and uneducated when used in mass.

So in regards to swearing at a native with no manners, I feel it's far more appropriate to make them look small by chastising them with manners and logic in front of their own. If you have this ability to make some feel stupid or small in front of others without loosing your rag it is far more satisfying then any release of vocal yobery. Simply put, put them in their place. We may be the foreigners, but we shouldn't loose our dignity by sinking to their levels.

[AW1]

Simply put, put them in their place. We may be the foreigners, but we shouldn't loose our dignity by sinking to their levels.

Someone certainly thinks very highly of himself.
Did you give yourself a little pep talk by watching Zulu?

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

One of the commonest observations among newcomers is the pushing, shoving and shouldering of people out of the way without so much as an "excuse me." Don't think Swedes have any lessons to give on "personal space."

Absolutely agreed to and you are right about it being a frequent complaint...I made up a comedic reply that I have used before but won't make you suffer through it again...but you are "spot on" with that observation.

Although, I have not heard any Swedes complain about it...have you?

To the OP...why is it you are having so many problems?...Or are you just overly sensitive when people comment about your behaviour?

Posting that here must mean you are really having a hard time adjusting...yes?

[GK-]

Thanks for all your views.

I have been  living in another nordic country for à decade, have not encountered one such incident so far.

1.  my child has astma or i got late and running is not an issue here. Do they think that parent are sending the sick kids to school When they get child sick leave  here or  à teacher will welcome à sick child into the classroom. 

2.  When they are so polite to observe around and take turns Why do they have this queuing system at butchers, bank or hospital. There is à way to put it across, not teaching politeness in a rude way !

3. Come on ..My child is not talking in a workplace lobby, its à school lobby and he is talking ..not shouting ,not playing, do we take the child to park to talk...?

Its puré intrusion of personal space.  I got the message and know what to do next time if somebody interferes. I will try to  be à roman when I am in rome and give them the taste of their own medicine.

[Gina88]

you mean like on the UK's public transport, especially London, everyone is so polite, no shoving, no rushing, everyone patiently waiting in their own space, keeping out th ... (show full quote)

you mean like on the UK's public transport, especially London, everyone is so polite, no shoving, no rushing, everyone patiently waiting in their own space, keeping out the way of everyone else?????? ... (hide full quote)

Exactly!!!! Oh, and politeness on the roads in London is also striking

[Swedish Cat]

Looks to me you are mixing up Sweden and Stockholm. Stockholm is rude and as I am Swedish and moved here from somewere else I feel like a foregner. What applies in Stockholm does not really apply in the rest of Sweden. You get used to the rudeness of bitter people especially on busses.

[byke]

And again, since the majority of people in Stockholm are Swedes from outside of Stockholm originally. It puts it into context where these manners come from.

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

I think it is terrible, the way newcomers to Sweden act towards each other in it's capitol city!

[mångk]

[Swedish Cat]

And again, since the majority of people in Stockholm are Swedes from outside of Stockholm originally. It puts it into context where these manners come from.

Yes you are right and I have thought of that too. I just don't understand the rudeness of our beautiful Capital and if it is that people that move here feel the right to become that way or that they adjust? Still cannot get away from the fact that there is a big difference, I have not been in a place ever in my life with such rude and selfish people. I travelled all over the world and lived abroad for 12 years and thought London was bad until I came here.. Sorry to say it but I see my just moved in friends posting the exactly same things on facebook.

[byke]

Again, don't sink to standards that are beneath you.
Lead by example !

I promise you, if anyone feels that friendliness or manners is something that should be refrained from or is offensive ... Then these people have very little to give society or any nation, irrespective of flag.

People never respond with happiness or manners if you sink to their levels.
So chin up ... and a pep in ya step.