(edit title) "Guilty Unless Proven Innocent" Police Attitude In Sweden Options

[skogsbo]

Not everyone is checked that thoroughly at the airport. There are checks based on certain characteristics of the passengers. I never get my body examined but a Middle Eastern ... (show full quote)

Not everyone is checked that thoroughly at the airport. There are checks based on certain characteristics of the passengers. I never get my body examined but a Middle Eastern man with a beard is treated differently. ... (hide full quote)

it's called profiling and is the best use of assets and the very limited time window security staff have to carry out the best check of passengers before boarding.

Does your night work pay better in London?

[Migga]

Unfortunately, the Swedes are very suspicious people by nature

So Swedes are genetically and biologically predisposed to be suspicious?

If you were an ethnical Swede, or someone who look like an ethnical Swede, the problem would never have arousen. All the beautiful words about fairness, equality and the rule ... (show full quote)

If you were an ethnical Swede, or someone who look like an ethnical Swede, the problem would never have arousen. All the beautiful words about fairness, equality and the rule of law are only applicable to ethnical Swedes in Sweden. ... (hide full quote)

What`s your proof of this? The original posters experience with three police officers? Your own experiences?

But let`s say that it is like you claim it is, why is it so? Is it because the Swedes are racists, "naturally" suspicious or because of the crime statistics?

I don't know what you can do about it, can you beat the system?

You can report it. You can turn to your local paper. You can talk about it on forums. But why would you? According to the original posters description it didn`t sound like anything strange to me. I think the police should engage in exchange more often with people who walks around town in the middle of the night. Just because people may feel insecure it shouldn`t stop them from questioning people who wanders alone in the night.

[klubbnika]

People aren't suggesting it's his fault. people aren't suggesting it's anybody's fault. It's just the police doing their job, he wasn't up to anyth ... (show full quote)

People aren't suggesting it's his fault. people aren't suggesting it's anybody's fault. It's just the police doing their job, he wasn't up to anything dodgy and they didn't do anything about it because they were satisfied that he was not up to anything suspicious.

That would be because it's not illegal to sell those services, it's those paying who are of interest to the police. ... (hide full quote)

Snood, we know you Brits are misogynists, do not need to prove it all over again.

[sometimesinsweden]

So much so that they were the first country in Europe to have a female leader voted in.

[klubbnika]

So Swedes are genetically and biologically predisposed to be suspicious? What`s your proof of this? The original posters experience with three police officers? Your own ex ... (show full quote)

So Swedes are genetically and biologically predisposed to be suspicious?

What`s your proof of this? The original posters experience with three police officers? Your own experiences?

But let`s say that it is like you claim it is, why is it so? Is it because the Swedes are racists, "naturally" suspicious or because of the crime statistics?

You can report it. You can turn to your local paper. You can talk about it on forums. But why would you? According to the original posters description it didn`t sound like anything strange to me. I think the police should engage in exchange more often with people who walks around town in the middle of the night. Just because people may feel insecure it shouldn`t stop them from questioning people who wanders alone in the night. ... (hide full quote)

No, I didn't say Swedes were genetically or biologically predisposed, where did you see this? It is the culture, the xenophobia.

The proof is the countless experience of the people I know. And in certain situations, my own.

[klubbnika]

So much so that they were the first country in Europe to have a female leader voted in.

What does it have to do with the fact that the Brits are misogynists? You vote for a party not a leader.
What is next, that Spice Girls invented feminism?

[klubbnika]

it's called profiling and is the best use of assets and the very limited time window security staff have to carry out the best check of passengers before boarding.Does you ... (show full quote)

it's called profiling and is the best use of assets and the very limited time window security staff have to carry out the best check of passengers before boarding.

Does your night work pay better in London? ... (hide full quote)

Exactly. (Racial) profiling is what the Swedish police in this case was guilty of.


The last question, why don't you ask you mother.

[sometimesinsweden]

What does it have to do with the fact that the Brits are misogynists? You vote for a party not a leader.. What is next, that Spice Girls invented feminism?

...a party headed by a woman.

Groundbreaking in Womens Rights within Europe, irrespective of her political bent.

[skogsbo]

The last question, why don't you ask you mother.

she's retired now and leaves it to the foreign talent, but she reckons they are all mutters and even a bored airport security guard wouldn't touch them if he was paid to.

In the OPs case, profiling was carried out. A lone male out hanging around at night? Regardelss of anything else, that is suspicious. Unless you are at a bus / taxi stop, outside a pub/rest. smoking... why else would you hang around? Mischief?

[Migga]

No, I didn't say Swedes were genetically or biologically predisposed, where did you see this? It is the culture, the xenophobia. The proof is the countless experience of t ... (show full quote)

No, I didn't say Swedes were genetically or biologically predisposed, where did you see this? It is the culture, the xenophobia.

The proof is the countless experience of the people I know. And in certain situations, my own. ... (hide full quote)

Did I say that you said that? I asked a question. Why do you take it to heart, did I hit a soft spot? When you write "by nature" it`s not a far fetch to interpret it like I did.

Ok so it`s only your and a few peoples personal and unique experiences. That`s good to know. Nothing to draw any general conclusions from.

Exactly. (Racial) profiling is what the Swedish police in this case was guilty of.

How do you know that? I`d say that a person wandering around alone in the middle of the night fits the profiling of a person prone to crime. It has nothing to do with race.

[Hisingen]

Don't take klubbknickers' bait.
This old woman who says they wouldn't look at her body is so right. They wouldn't
A natural troll has once again crept out of the woodwork and is stirring it up as is her wont, and believe me, she just isn't worth getting steamed up about. It has been mentioned late night activity and the attitude of the police under such circumstances. She should perhaps keep inddors.
And the OP might find in future that he will welcome police attention. His attitude could get him mugged, and then perhaps he will be pleased to find police in the vicinity to assist him, as has also been mentioned.
But let old klubbknickers solve her own problems, and ignore her trolling.

Ha det ! ! !

[whoye]

Did I say that you said that? I asked a question. Why do you take it to heart, did I hit a soft spot? When you write "by nature" it`s not a far fetch to interpre ... (show full quote)

Did I say that you said that? I asked a question. Why do you take it to heart, did I hit a soft spot? When you write "by nature" it`s not a far fetch to interpret it like I did.

Ok so it`s only your and a few peoples personal and unique experiences. That`s good to know. Nothing to draw any general conclusions from.

How do you know that? I`d say that a person wandering around alone in the middle of the night fits the profiling of a person prone to crime. It has nothing to do with race. ... (hide full quote)

what makes you think that this is not the case? swedish constitution? on one side she has got first and second hand experiences and on other side you have got just a empty notion of equality. so if were to draw any conclusions based on these two sides of the same matter, we'd have to go with her. you might question her experiences or her credibility but that most definitely does not make you right.

[seolondon]

I don't see anything wrong in what the police did. It is their duty to investigate whatever suspicious act they see. Likewise, it doesn't mean that you are guilty of certain act when a police investigate you. They are conducting investigation to know the truth and to end their suspicion on you.

[Migga]

what makes you think that this is not the case? swedish constitution? on one side she has got first and second hand experiences and on other side you have got just a empty not ... (show full quote)

what makes you think that this is not the case? swedish constitution? on one side she has got first and second hand experiences and on other side you have got just a empty notion of equality. so if were to draw any conclusions based on these two sides of the same matter, we'd have to go with her. you might question her experiences or her credibility but that most definitely does not make you right. ... (hide full quote)

I didn`t know it was a competition about what side should win. What side am I on? My intent was to question the reasoning behind her conclusions, it wasn`t about if she was right or wrong. Do you really see all things in black or white? Either it`s right or wrong, one side or the other? But yes I will question her remarks, her conclusions, experiences and credibility. I do it because I want to make it obvious for everyone how she comes to her conclusions. Being right or being on the winning side has nothing to do with it.

What if I said that I have first hand experience that conflicts with hers? What if I said I have hearsay that conflicts with hers? How would that affect you black or white perspective?

[whoye]

if you noticed i have said "if we have to draw any conclusions based on these two". so i don't claim it to be black and white. but rather the fact that, almost anytime someone talks about discrimination, racism or any other matter that mostly overlooked by the majority, the replies they get aren't answers but questions; trying to make them look as if they are lying or lack credibility or they exaggerate. jus because swedish constitution states the equality of men or majority poses themselves as such, it does not necessarily mean that the reality is such.
i don't see how you might have first hand experience. (i guess) you are white swedish; what? the other night when you were driving you saw non-white people on the street and there wasn't any police harrasing them? is that what you call a "first hand experience that conflicts with her"?