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Justice in Sweden

What has happened to this land

intrepidfox
post 9.Nov.2012, 10:57 PM
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Location: Gothenburg
Joined: 18.Jul.2012

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/goteborg/1.112232...rak-vid-sjukhus

Why is it that idiots can get away with what they want in this country. I dont care if they are white, black, yellow, pink or purple.

The justice system is a joke. Will people take the law into their own hands soon. I would if i cannot get proper justice.
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Hisingen
post 9.Nov.2012, 11:34 PM
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Location: Västra Götaland
Joined: 5.Jul.2012

Slaps on the wrist all round. Now that is serious punishment, don't you agree ? ? ?
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intrepidfox
post 9.Nov.2012, 11:53 PM
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Location: Gothenburg
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I think that they should get many years in prison or do you want a ghetto where you can do as you will.
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Hisingen
post 10.Nov.2012, 03:08 PM
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Location: Västra Götaland
Joined: 5.Jul.2012

Clearly irony is lost on you - I was in fact agreeing with you and simply commenting the type of sentences so often meted out by Swedish courts. Unfortunately I was too subtle for you. tongue.gif
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frenchviking
post 11.Nov.2012, 08:49 AM
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Joined: 19.Aug.2012

Seems likethere are 2 levels of justice in sweden...

If you are working and paying tax, contributing to the system, but you are caught speeding a litle on an empty road, it will cost you a fortune! Or if you were to try to cheat the tax system, then you will be in huge trouble...

But, if you are unemployed and leave a man to die on the train tracks adter robbing him then you are a victim and all is fine... Or if you burn your wife or sister's face with acid because they offended you then again, well, it is ok since it is your culture...

Actually, since i am french it is my culture to speed and cheat the tax system... I guess i should just do it and use discrimination as my defense!
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Mark249
post 11.Nov.2012, 09:58 AM
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Joined: 9.Nov.2012

QUOTE (frenchviking @ 11.Nov.2012, 08:49 AM) *
Actually, since i am french it is my culture to speed and cheat the tax system...

I think you're right. You just have to step off the plane in Paris to see the citys past glory days.
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Yorkshireman
post 11.Nov.2012, 12:11 PM
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011

QUOTE (intrepidfox @ 9.Nov.2012, 11:53 PM) *
... or do you want a ghetto where you can do as you will.

Indirectly it already exists... just look at the number of reports now where the police are attacked in Rinkeby!

QUOTE (frenchviking @ 11.Nov.2012, 08:49 AM) *
If you are working and paying tax, contributing to the system, but you are caught speeding a litle on an empty road, it will cost you a fortune!

How much You pay is dependant upon how much You earn. Sweden has a day-fine system, where there are a number of days fine given, and the amount is calculated on how much you earn per day.

QUOTE (frenchviking @ 11.Nov.2012, 08:49 AM) *
But, if you are unemployed and leave a man to die on the train tracks adter robbing him then you are a victim and all is fine...

No.
He was sentenced according to the crime commited, whether We like it or not. He robbed 2 people, and that is what he was found guilty of. It is not a crime in Sweden for not helping someone, even if they at risk of injury!

QUOTE (frenchviking @ 11.Nov.2012, 08:49 AM) *
Or if you burn your wife or sister's face with acid because they offended you then again, well, it is ok since it is your culture...

No, a crime is a crime as described by law, regardless of culture.

QUOTE (frenchviking @ 11.Nov.2012, 08:49 AM) *
Actually, since i am french it is my culture to speed and cheat the tax system... I guess i should just do it and use discrimination as my defense!

Give it a try ... Would be interesting to hear the defence biggrin.gif
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sometimesinsweden
post 11.Nov.2012, 01:16 PM
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Joined: 15.Jun.2012

QUOTE (Yorkshireman @ 11.Nov.2012, 12:11 PM) *
No, a crime is a crime as described by law, regardless of culture.

This has repeatedly been proven in practice to not be the case in the UK and Sweden.

There are a huge number of examples where crimes have been downgraded and the law been 'relaxed' or not maintained due to the cultural background of the defendant.
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Yorkshireman
post 11.Nov.2012, 02:39 PM
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Law is not black and white, it is about Interpretation and Argument, not only with regards what law-makers have written into the text of the law, but also how the judicial system processes that. (case-law)

Whilst one can look at an event, and say Oh! ...the crime has been downgraded or relaxed due to cultural background ... another one can look and conclude ... a good argument either with regards the severity of the crime, or indeed the sentence itself being too strict or lenient, was made and proved successful.
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