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Motorcycling costs in Sweden

Is it viable

Incey
post 7.Apr.2013, 08:28 AM
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Joined: 7.Apr.2013

Hi, I'm moving to Sweden (probably Malmö) at the end of the year and have the dilemma of whether to sell my motorbike or bring it with me. Does anyone have any experience of owning a bike in Sweden? What costs can I expect? Tax, insurance, getting it right hand side ready? I have a Kawasaki Z1000 and currently pay about £400 for insurance and tax.

Cheers.
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Micardo
post 7.Apr.2013, 11:51 AM
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Joined: 22.May.2006

I think the costs will be about the same. Remember you will not be able to use it all year. There are some good low mileage bikes for sale as you cannot use them as primary transport all year. Have you checked blocket etc to compare second hand values. ? Remember that the distances here are greater and the traffic less, so vehicles generally do more miles with much less wear and tear.
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Hisingen
post 7.Apr.2013, 07:32 PM
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Location: Västra Götaland
Joined: 5.Jul.2012

I am not in the position to give any figures regarding an Mc in Sweden, althoug at one stage ai did look into the price of insurance when considering a cheaper form of transport. That was, to me, a bit of a shock, but don't be put off, since it is heaven knows how many years since I last needed Mc insurance.
Regarding an Mc in SWeden, the usage is sorely limited due to the length of winter, and winter tyres being required during quite a long period. But that on one side. Personally I long for the ability to enjoy the Swedish countryside. It is a long time since I rode my Velocette Venom, which indicates age! ! But with far less traffic on the country roads, there is SO MUCH to enjoy in Sweden, most especially on two wheels.
I envy you your bike, and hope most sincerely that you find enjoyment on two wheels over here. Southern Sweden tends to be pretty flat, but a little further north, Göteborg and above, there is some lovely countryside that can truly be enjoyed from two wheels.
As an older immigrant I welcome you to Sweden. You will read on here many points of view regarding this fair country and its people. Come with an open mind, and I hope that you will find, as I have done, a new home country. smile.gif
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John.Smith
post 8.Apr.2013, 09:55 AM
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Location: Sweden
Joined: 12.Sep.2011

QUOTE (Micardo @ 7.Apr.2013, 11:51 AM) *
I think the costs will be about the same. Remember you will not be able to use it all year. There are some good low mileage bikes for sale as you cannot use them as primary tr ... (show full quote)

There is little or nothing to do but headlight adjustment for RHS driving. This you can do yourself and most modern bikes have a screw/bolt you adjust for this. The registration fee for Swedish plates is approx 750kr and the bike will be tested for road worthiness etc. Make sure the bike is legal, i.e. lights, exhaust. It is all standard EU regulations, so if it is legal in the UK/ireland, then it is legal here.

My advice is to bring your bike here. There is not a huge difference in price and at least you keep the bike you know and like. Most people who ride here are fair weather riders due to the very short riding season and many bikes are badly stored over the Winter as a lot of people live in apartments and the bikes are left in either damp garages/barns or simply outside with a cover.

The bikes here may have lower mileage but the roads here are not great, expect to replace shocks and tyres more frequently.

Insurance costs are subjective, depends on rider age, experience, bike type etc.. Overall they are not too different from the UK. I pay about the same rate. Shop around and you will get good deals.
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Incey
post 8.Apr.2013, 04:03 PM
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Joined: 7.Apr.2013

Firstly, thanks to all for taking the time to write and help out with my little connundrum. It's amazing how many things to have to think about when moving country! I'm glad there are sites like this with helpful people like yourselves.

I'll have to have a serious think about the pros and cons before i make my decision. I'm used to the narrow window of riding opprtunity as i'm a fair weather rider in the UK. Maybe I should just move to Stockholm and get a snowmobile!

Hisingen: I have a very open mind re Sweden. I've been many times as my wife is Swedsh and has family in Göteborg. Malmö appeals to us as we can nip over to Copenhagen for some pub culture now and again! The biggest struggle will be finding work. I'm trying to learn the lingo but it's slow going.

Anyway, thanks again everyone. See you in Sweden - bike or no bike!!
 
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Svensksmith
post 8.Apr.2013, 04:20 PM
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Joined: 28.Jul.2011

Bikes, for the most part, are a luxury item. Unless you can ride them year round, it's hard the make the numbers work.

But they sure are fun!
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John.Smith
post 9.Apr.2013, 11:16 AM
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Location: Sweden
Joined: 12.Sep.2011

I know of only one guy who uses his bike (Honda crf 450) as his main transport. He rides year round even in Winter (-30 C) smile.gif

Everyone else including me is seasonal. As far as hobbies go it's a cheap one. The running costs for my bike amount to about 15000kr a year which includes petrol, maintenance and insurance. Petrol is the biggest expense but I then save on diesel for the jeep so I guess it balances out in the end.

Also, a hell of lot cheaper than seeing a shrink on a regular basis wink.gif
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John.Smith
post 9.Apr.2013, 01:00 PM
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Location: Sweden
Joined: 12.Sep.2011

Also, just struck me there, but you need to factor in the cost of getting the bike to Sweden. It may actually be cheaper to sell your in the Uk and then buy one here. If you buy in Sept-Feb off-season you will find some good deals.
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Incey
post 9.Apr.2013, 02:47 PM
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Joined: 7.Apr.2013

Thanks John. It looks like it's about the same as in the UK then. I'm over in Sweden several times a year so I could probably just ride it over in the summer and store it at the in-laws until we move over. I'm not sure if I'll manage to sell it as has a ratty sounding engine due to a chipped tooth on the crank. It's mechanically sound, just a bit rattly but it may not sell because of this. I'd rather keep it than let it go for peanuts. It's got a lot of pricey mods too.
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bobalong
post 9.Apr.2013, 08:01 PM
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Location: Värmland
Joined: 6.Feb.2010

Incey

If your bike is half decent then bring it here instead of buying a new one. Check out blocket.se for bikes... they are quite expensive to buy here I have found. For an equivalent you pay much more even taking into acount getting it here and registering it. I brought my ZR7 here as it was only a couple of years old. It cost me around £350 to register it. I paid 1500sek for the paperwork to be checked out. Then it had an mot and number plates another 1500sek. It was weighed too as part of the mot which was 250sek.

Insurance depends on your age and how long you have had your licence etc and if you have a personal number here..ie cheaper if you have. The tax is buttons. 180sek per year.
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John.Smith
post 10.Apr.2013, 09:05 AM
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Location: Sweden
Joined: 12.Sep.2011

£350!
Wow, I registered mine here in 2008 and it cost me around 750kr for the registration process and testing and about 250kr for the weighing. Roughly 1000sek in total.

The paperwork process was very easy, I just presented my original registration papers, they checked the chassis (VIN) number, tested it for road worthiness and weighed it. All in all it took 1 hour and I got the new plates 2 days after that.
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John.Smith
post 10.Apr.2013, 09:13 AM
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Location: Sweden
Joined: 12.Sep.2011

About £75-100 will get you a reconditioned crank shaft in fleabay. A few hours work will have it replaced and back to new. Could also replace the pistons at about £30 a pop each since you have the motor split. Breath some new life into the pig!
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Incey
post 10.Apr.2013, 05:06 PM
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Joined: 7.Apr.2013

QUOTE (John.Smith @ 10.Apr.2013, 08:05 AM) *
£350!Wow, I registered mine here in 2008 and it cost me around 750kr for the registration process and testing and about 250kr for the weighing. Roughly 1000sek in total.T ... (show full quote)

QUOTE (John.Smith @ 10.Apr.2013, 08:13 AM) *
About £75-100 will get you a reconditioned crank shaft in fleabay. A few hours work will have it replaced and back to new. Could also replace the pistons at about £30 a pop ... (show full quote)

My engineering knowledge is less than zero so i wouldn't know where to start re replacing the crank. I once helped a friend replace the valves on my old Ford Escort but it was all a bit of a blur. Aside from the immense lack of knowledge I don't have the tools. I doubt the pistons would warrant replacing as it's only done just over 7000 miles. It's an old Kawasaki press bike that was crashed on test and bought by a previous boss (Fast Bikes Mag). He fixed it up and now I have it. Maybe someone with some mechanical knowledge would buy it as a project. Chipped tooth (more of a gouge) pic below...
 
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