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A new Västrafik ticket fiasco!

Why must it be so complicated?

eardoctor
post 16.Sep.2013, 09:55 AM
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at the end of September, Vastrafik will introduce ANOTHER ticket system at vast expense. it seems just as long-winded and complex as before and prices will increase. why can't the Vastrafik guys travel around the world and learn how its done elsewhere without hassle?
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intrepidfox
post 16.Sep.2013, 10:11 AM
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The old coupon system which was in use years ago worked perfectly well
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Mesost
post 16.Sep.2013, 10:58 AM
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i totally agree. why is there such a trend today to not only change things, but also make them WORSE?
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Ivor stephé
post 16.Sep.2013, 11:20 AM
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Isn't the idea to deter and reduce traffic?
What better way?
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Mesost
post 16.Sep.2013, 12:41 PM
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no, the idea of public transport should be to deter people getting into their cars, eller?
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Ivor stephé
post 16.Sep.2013, 01:05 PM
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It depends what majority they now own.
If Vastrafik has reached a point where it can reduce over head costs and increase passenger costs without threat to competition. Then it gives them all possibilities that are often frowned upon with Monopolies.
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AgeOfReason
post 16.Sep.2013, 01:55 PM
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Västtrafik are the public organisation that co-ordinate transport, all the actual transport services are put out to public procurement. So they are not a monopoly as you imply.
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Ivor stephé
post 16.Sep.2013, 02:20 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-granted_monopoly
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Essingen
post 16.Sep.2013, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE

Same thing happens in Stockholm with SL, whose application of technology is extremely poor. A couple of years ago they installed new signs at bus stops to say how long the buses would be, only to pull them out and replace them with new ones after about 18 months.
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AgeOfReason
post 16.Sep.2013, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (Ivor stephé @ 16.Sep.2013, 03:20 PM) *

Still not a monopoly as you imply!

The politically steered organisations that coordinate transport, timetables and routes, in english would be called Public Transport Authorities. It is their job to ensure that public transport services are provided by service providers to meet the need of the area they cover.

In 2012 the public transport act was amended in sweden to create a total open market for commercial services and exclusive rights are not allowed. Today, somewhere just over 95% of all public transport services in sweden are placed into the public procurement domain, ie. open for competition. There are typically 2 kinds of contracts on offer, Gross contracts where the service provider bids to provide the service requested and are paid according to the total price and ticket revenues goes to the transport authority, and there are Net contracts where the service provider is paid a small fixed price but allowed to keep ticket revenues and is also allowed to decide the routes and price of tickets.
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Ivor stephé
post 16.Sep.2013, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (AgeOfReason @ 16.Sep.2013, 02:47 PM) *
The politically steered organisations that coordinate transport, timetables and routes, in english would be called Public Transport Authorities. It is their job to ensure that ... (show full quote)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-granted_monopoly
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chloeeff2
post 16.Sep.2013, 05:33 PM
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That's exactly why I don't pay. If the prices weren't so damn high maybe I'd consider buying a ticket once every so often.
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Mesost
post 17.Sep.2013, 08:33 AM
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www.planka.nu
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Snood
post 17.Sep.2013, 02:37 PM
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Location: Gothenburg
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I can't seem to find any information on this new system? any pointers?
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intrepidfox
post 17.Sep.2013, 05:13 PM
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Location: Gothenburg
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Hers the article from GP

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/goteborg/1.194994...a-biljettsystem
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