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Elliot Rodger America's Copy of Norway's Breivik

White Males Who Hated World's Multiculuralism

Model T Ford
post 26.May.2014, 07:41 PM
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Only differences are the social character of California versus Scandinavia, and Rodger had to act before the police tracked him down.

Given the increasing insane character of Western societies, and the inability to find ways of stopping them from getting vast quantities of weapons to do their destruction, societies must find ways of reducing their number by largely disarming them.
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makemydag
post 27.May.2014, 08:20 AM
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They could have easily tracked him down, but they probably didn't take his threat seriously, and definitely do not have the man power to check the validity of every threat made on YouTube. I haven't seen the video, because I refuse to watch his insane ramblings, but if there were no weapons actually shown on camera then this was just a case of an egotistical misogamist with nothing but his insane ramblings, and plenty of daddy's money.

Unfortunately the gun control issue in the US is extremely out of hand because there is no control. Without psychiatric consults to weed out those with suicidal or psychotic tendencies, AND wiping out the pipeline of cheap black market weapons from outside the country, there is nothing anyone can do. Disarming the US will not help. Black market weapons are far too cheap, and far too accessible to the wrong people. Chicago is a prime example of that.

It's very sad what happened in Santa Barbara, but one thing that is not mentioned is the fact that this was an assault against women. How women "did him wrong". Not that he could have been a miserable, daft brat living off his parent's success. He was also a member of men's groups looking at women as "targets", which is why he refers to himself as an "alpha".

This issue has far surpassed the need to look at gun control.
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makemydag
post 27.May.2014, 08:22 AM
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Also, the title is wrong. He didn't hate multiculturalism. He just hated women who wouldn't have sex with him.
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nickoledlaird
post 27.May.2014, 11:07 AM
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Sidenote: I believe his mother was Asian which would thus make him multicultural?
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Model T Ford
post 27.May.2014, 12:01 PM
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Rodger's first two victims were Asian men who were getting all the action with the white girls, and he was so jealous of.

So we just learn to live with the domestic rampages while we still go to the greatest lengths to deal with, often cause, foreign ones? blink.gif

How much more screwed up can we get!

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makemydag
post 27.May.2014, 01:25 PM
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The thing is, he wasn't white either, so the multiculturalism wasn't the problem.

He got it put in his head that he was - as a male - owed the affections of females. The blonde sorority girls he was so obsessed with are just seen as the "holy grail" of "targets". His poor mental state and the perpetuation of this idea that women are property is the real problem.

Yes, gun violence is terrible, and really needs to be dealt with, but this particular case has a bigger picture. He bought into the Pick-Up Artist propaganda that chooses these small, weak boys and tells them that they can teach them how to get any girl, and if they can't get the girl, something must be wrong with HER. He saw the two guys they were with as "beta" males. Below him.

If you are talking about living with the domestic violence here in Sweden, I definitely think that should not be the case. It should be addressed, but there have been measures taken to curb the violence. It is not as easy to get a gun here, and that is fantastic. I think it is unrealistic to think that all the gun violence will be able to be eradicated, but there is very little in comparison to the US.

I am curious though when you say " while we still go to the greatest lengths to deal with, often cause, foreign ones?" - how are the foreign rampages being dealt with here? Sure, it may spark a conversation, and a look into national policies, but this is in no way the same as Norway's shooting. That was tragic, and more like the Oklahoma City bombing.

I just don't understand where the parallels are being drawn between the two stories. Yes, they are both tragic, and both involved guns. The only other similarity is that they were perpetrated by people with severe mental illnesses that made them feel superior in some way.

Again, this particular case was not motivated by race. It was by gender.
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Model T Ford
post 27.May.2014, 04:11 PM
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It was motivated by misanthropy, triggered by a broken home where he allowed to get almost everything, except girls he wanted to bed.

His behavior should have gotten law enforcement all over him, but it didn't happen, showing how problematic background checks are in preventing mass mayhem. The police didn't even know about his psychiatric problems.

Preventing people like him who kill over 30,0000 Americans every year from easily getting deadly weapons should be a top political priority, and if it requires a constitutional change, so be it.

Oh, and the similarity between the two cases is that they are both white males who felt that their privileges in society where being undermined by the advances and rights of others, especially women and Muslims, leading them to want to kill everyone.
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Poca
post 27.May.2014, 04:29 PM
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How is he white? And his issue had nothing to do with multicultural but rather about his feeling of constant rejection from the female gender.

On a side note, it is always interesting to read the excuse of mental illness being uses whenever someone deemed "white" do stuff like that. People go through great length talking about possible bullying and abuse that he may have suffered. When a blacks kill it's always because they are gang members, when someone who looks " Arabic" kills it's always because tlhe is crazy moslem, but when white kills it's always mental illness .
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Model T Ford
post 27.May.2014, 04:44 PM
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Elliot considered himself white, and suffered from the white male depression syndrome, explaining why he couldn't bring himself to kill his white father but planned to kill his Asian mother.
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Poca
post 27.May.2014, 04:47 PM
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Him considering himself white does not make him white, specially when one of his direct parent is clearly from a different " race".

What is this white male depression syndrome? Is it similar to affluenza?

QUOTE (Model T Ford @ 27.May.2014, 05:44 PM) *
Elliot considered himself white, and suffered from the white male depression syndrome, explaining why he couldn't bring himself to kill his white father but planned to kill his Asian mother.

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Model T Ford
post 28.May.2014, 01:11 PM
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In Elliot's case, thinking and acting as a white is all that matters, especially when he comes across as a misanthrope, sociopath or depressed white male.

Think calling him simply a misogynist misses the most important points in trying to prevent others from behaving like him.

Lots of men hate women for all kinds of reasons, real or imagined, but they don't go out and kill as many of them as they can.

Elliot actually hurt more men than women.

Elliot, like Anders Breivik, was a depressed, spoiled white male because society was still not giving him what he wanted and expected, thanks particularly to the introduction of different races into it, and the advancement of women. As a result, he took out his rage against it with the weapons it easily provided.

The only real difference between the two sociopaths is that Anders had been at it much longer, and Norwegian society is much different from American.

We must make it harder for such men getting weapons to carry out their vendettas since they are only increasing in numbers.
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Svensksmith
post 28.May.2014, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Model T Ford @ 28.May.2014, 01:11 PM) *
We must make it harder for such men getting weapons to carry out their vendettas since they are only increasing in numbers.



He used a knife and a hammer to kill three of his victims. Are you proposing we outlaw those? Gonna be hard to pound nails with a rock (which btw can also be used as a weapon).
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Model T Ford
post 28.May.2014, 04:43 PM
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Just pathetic nonsense to justify the continuing mayhem.

He might have strangled someone too, so I am not advocating that arms be sliced off. Or the end of cars.

But he sttll had several more efficient weapons, and 400 rounds for more killing, but he seems to have run out of steam with what he had, and had done.

The unwillingness of mindless people not to at least somewhat want to disarm our rambo society is the biggest cause of the massacres continuing.




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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 28.May.2014, 05:19 PM
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Notice how the tragedies occur in places where people cannot carry firearms for personal protection...if those cowards knew they would be met by others that were armed they never would do these things.

Guns don't kill people...people will always find ways to kill each other.

We have to look at the kind of society we live in...where our disgruntled feel the need to act out by killing others!!!
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Svensksmith
post 28.May.2014, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (Model T Ford @ 28.May.2014, 04:43 PM) *
Just pathetic nonsense to justify the continuing mayhem.He might have strangled someone too, so I am not advocating that arms be sliced off. Or the end of cars.But he sttll ha ... (show full quote)


Nimrods like you always focus on the weapon. The weapon is not the problem. Anything can be a weapon. What we need to focus on is what is creating these monsters in the first place.
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