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Pirate Bay shields 100,000 users

TT/The Local · 8 Apr 2009, 07:16

Published: 08 Apr 2009 07:16 GMT+02:00

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Pirate Bay has now added its own offering to the various anonymity services that have previously existed on the market. More than 100,000 people have already signed up for the new service.

“Right now, we have 113,000 who have joined the queue,” Peter Sunde, Pirate Bay spokesperson, told TT.

He estimates that around 80 percent are Swedes.

Since Pirate Bay doesn't save any login credentials, there is no information to share with public authorities. With the new service, users connect to the Internet via a virtual private network (VPN), which conceals their personal IP addresses.

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TT/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

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09:12 April 8, 2009 by Squiddy
I have erm, a friend, let's call him cephalopoddy who occasionally likes to dabble in the dark arts of peer-to-peer file sharing utilising the bay of pirates as an intermediary.

My friend is rather keen not have säpo kicking his door in at 3am in the morning and carting him off to jail (not very likey I know - we are talking about a couple of downloads a month here).

He connects to the bay using a proxy so I, er I mean, he assumes that the downloading of the torrent itself is hidden from the prying eyes of the law. However, when his torrent downloading application of choice (Vuze) pulls the the files across the net are they visible to all and sundry. I assume Vuze doesn't connect to the seeders using a proxy? Can you do this? Do you need to do this?

Please help, he has 2 children, they'll miss daddy if he gets 12 years hard labour in a Swedish prison..
09:18 April 8, 2009 by Jakub72
'Anonymous Servers' have been around since the dawn of the internet and with the right tools an individual can hide their IP address from prying eyes. A bigger concern would be this:

UK launches massive, one-year program to archive every email


Smells of the Patriot Act in the US...the single biggest injustice in American history...

Bless Sweden for being Sweden...maybe the US should take some notes
10:30 April 8, 2009 by Eddymu
It's amazing the fear that has been instilled on people by the passing of this law... one fact that is for sure, they will not go after little Johan downloading a few movies or music now and then - the main point has been to enable them to find the serial sharers/uploaders. i.e the ones creating the problem for them.

The tech on offer from TPB will route all your internet traffic via their anonymous VPN, thereby making you untraceable. (unless they keep logs themselves!).

Still it's a grand scheme for them to undertake and one must ask how they will be able to deliver the service when it'll be eating up so much bandwidth.

Still it's a grand scheme for them to undertake and one must ask how they will be able to deliver the service when it'll be eating up so much bandwidth.
11:12 April 8, 2009 by Guest
A simple question here; how much should i care ? I download one or two movies per week, no music or anything else.
11:22 April 8, 2009 by Eddymu
Not very much IMO.
11:38 April 8, 2009 by Renfeh Hguh
Are we talking about the same "Privacy-obsessed Sweden" that publishes in the public domain how much every taxpayer earns?
11:58 April 8, 2009 by wetback
get a premium Usenet account and forget all this peer2peer nonsense. Direct downloads, no IP exposure.
12:35 April 8, 2009 by Jakub72
Funny paradox, huh? I didn't say it was perfect...personally, I would rather have that be know then the government tapping my phone without due cause and claim the Patriot Act bullshit...just my $.02...
14:42 April 8, 2009 by Braderunner Rennuredarb
I would rather have the govt tap my phone than offer up my earnings to the whole bloody world. But then again, I dont have that whole Swedish "wealth envy" thing going on.
15:36 April 8, 2009 by roch
Do you think that there is a difference from downloading TV series that have already played in the states for example to movies that have not premièred...Is that a consideration taken into account by the downloading police? I mean people can tape the episode to watch it later for example.. so I am curious about this distinction... tv shows vs movies...
16:03 April 8, 2009 by Braderunner Rennuredarb
Well of course there is a difference...

One was obtained by ripping the broadcast shows from DVR, DVD, or on stream while the latter was obtained by espionage.

But both are wrong.

Personally, I have no problem with people ripping DVDs or CDs for their own personal use - i.e. for putting the media on a portable player (PSP, iPOD, ZUNE, etc...) or for making backups in case of damage (I lost part of a boxed set to a drunk buddy - never again). I also have no problem with letting a friend borrow the physical media for personal "borrowing" use - i.e. watching/listening to the media and returning to media to the owner.

What I do have a problem with is the "borrow/copy" or "rip/distribute" or "rip/offer up" culture. Just as I have had a problem with borrow/copy on tape many moons ago.
16:55 April 8, 2009 by Kibiri
If you want it to use the proxy then you need to select appropriate option in that program. It should be somewhere around preferences->connection->use proxy or something like that. There is a chance of that program not supporting proxy use, though any decent p2p program has it. If your program is connecting to other peers directly (not through an anonymous proxy or alike) then other people that are downloading/uploading the same file would see your IP when you happen to connect to them.

Another important point is, not all proxies are anonymous. You may connect through a proxy but your IP can still be visible to the end point, that is unless its an anonymous proxy. Google for anonymity check. Free anonymous proxies are rare, unstable and very slow.
20:32 April 8, 2009 by olleello
I don't condone copyright infringement but I don't like the way copyrite laws are being enforced. This is a nice letting you know if your IP-adress has been requested. Since this information has to go through the legal system it's public.

21:12 April 8, 2009 by Keithy
I have zero sympathy with the record companies, film studios. Cinema box office receipts are at an all-time high. No successful musical artist ever does less than VERY nicely thank you. I remember when you would have to pay £20 (and that was about 10 years ago) for a cd. Now the boot is on the other foot, and I love it.

The file sharing phenomenon has opened up a whole new world of music and culture by artists who care more about the art than the profit. Can anyone point out any sign that creativity and productivity in any area of the arts is being stifled, or that artists are not being paid?

If not, kindly håll käften.

21:44 April 8, 2009 by nic_tester
I think the film industry is the most problematic. Because films are very expensive to produce.

Music will be ok since its extremely cheap to produce, except marketing and branding and stuff that got nothing whatsoever to do with music.

Programs and games can sortof protect themselves.

About p2p filesharing. Only somewhat safe way to do it these days is by a vpn to a privacy service, such as ipredator. But make damn sure that they dont keep any records. Another nifty thing is that not only will your ip only lead to the anonymity service, it will also look like its not swedish, thus avoiding ipred armed hunters.

Other option for snatching media is by a news-group service, they both around the same price. Personally i just love the idea of p2p so the newsgroup services does not apeal to me.

Oh, and there is another scheme thats ok but very slow, called realswarm or somesuch. There you only connect to people you trust. and they in turn only connect to people they trust etcetera. So, if you are betrayed, its by one of your mates And if one of your mates is betrayed, only he is busted. Like, if you hunt ppl using realswarm you run start over from zero each layer you peal off. Clever idea but slow.

And yes, i think the regular joe should be worried, they will hunt every1 equally if they can cover their own expenses with the fines.
22:29 April 8, 2009 by The Lix-a
5 euro a month for a vpn is bloody good! wonder how good a service it will be, wish they had it up and running at christmas so i could of watched bbc i player. Thats what im most worried about im not really bothered with this IPRED. Well i dont think so unless they start using small time sharers as examples who knows, are they really gonna be worried by a rare disco album from russia or a soundtrack to a 80's zombie b movie hmmm? got no britney or mariah carey on my computer thank god.
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