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Fury over ailing man's botched deportation

David Landes · 4 Jun 2009, 11:27

Published: 04 Jun 2009 11:27 GMT+02:00

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“This has become a case of pure torture for this man, plain and simple, and now we need to take care of him in Sweden,” said Christian Democrat politician Alf Svensson to TV4.

John Olasupo, now 28-years-old, came to Sweden from Nigeria four years ago.

Within two years of his arrival, he started exhibiting signs of Parkinson’s, a degenerative neurological disease which impairs motor skills and generally occurs much later in life.

Now Olasupo’s condition has worsened to the point where he can no longer take care of himself, and is dependent on others to feed and take care of him.

“He’s too weak to open a medicine bottle, he’s too weak to take in water, he can’t drink if he doesn’t have help,” Tina Hennel, Olasupo’s legal representative, told TV4.

He is also taking drugs to help slow down the advancement of the disease – drugs which would be unavailable to Olasupo in Nigeria, according to Sveriges Radio.

“He can no longer move by himself or change his clothes and when he no longer has access to his medicine, he probably won’t be able to talk, eat, or swallow," said Bo Fråst, a doctor who has treated Olasupo at an asylum seeker reception centre in Sundsvall in northern Sweden.

"In unfavourable conditions, John Olasupo risks dying from starvation or dehydration,” Fråst told Sveriges Radio.

Concerned that Olasupo wouldn’t survive deportation to Nigeria, Fråst wrote a letter to the Swedish Migration Board (Migrationsverket), urging it to allow Olasupo to remain in Sweden.

“According to Swedish law, it would probably be seen as a serious violent crime to leave someone to their fate when that person can’t take care of himself, but is instead left to die,” wrote Fråst.

The Migration Board was unmoved by the doctor’s plea, however, arguing that deportation rulings can’t be overturned simply because someone is dying, despite there being a clause that allows for exceptions on “extraordinary compassionate grounds”, such as a life-threatening illness.

According to Migration Board head Dan Eliasson, the mere presence of the right medicines in the home country is sufficient to carry out a deportation.

“We don’t need to be certain [that the patient will receive appropriate medication], rather it’s sufficient if there is healthcare available in the home country. If there is care available, then responsibility for the person is given to the home country,” he told TV4.

But Eilasson’s explanation failed to resonate with Svensson, who called the decision to deport Olasupo “scandalous”.

“If they interpret the law – and this is all about interpretation – such that a person in this condition can’t be allowed to stay in Sweden, then it’s high time to rewrite the law,” he told TV4.

Despite pleas to allow him to stay in Sweden, Olasupo was nevertheless put on a flight from Stockholm to Nigeria early on Wednesday morning.

But the 28-year-old’s time in his home country was short-lived.

Upon arriving in Nigerian, local authorities demanded that Olasupo pay to be let in the country and that Sweden provide funds to cover the costs of his healthcare needs – demands with which Swedish authorities refused to comply.

As a result, Olasupo was put back on a plane and found himself once again on Swedish soil by late Wednesday afternoon.

The Migration Board’s Annette Backlund placed responsibility for the botched deportation with the police, who are tasked with actually carrying out expulsions.

“This trip was planned and carried out by the police, and it’s the police’s job to have the necessary contacts to ensure that the trip can take place. We had no reason to believe that he wouldn’t be accepted by Nigeria,” she told TV4.

“The police have surely done, ought to have done, all that they can do to carry this out. Now something happened during the trip which we still don’t know about and when we have more information about what happened, we’ll reassess the matter again.”

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Upon hearing the news, Svensson condemned Nigeria’s reaction, but added Swedish officials also bear some of the blame.

“Nigeria was wrong – a country should accept its citizens. But that doesn’t cut it as an excuse for Sweden,” he said.

“It’s inexcusable to use a simple explanation that they didn’t know how the Nigerians would react when they got there.”

Birgitta Krona, head of the Sundsvall asylum seekers' committee, was also upset by her client’s unexpected day-trip to Nigera.

"It’s a waste of money, and a waste of a human being’s last bit of strength,” she told TV4.

Upon landing again in Sweden, Olasupo was taken to a Migration Board facility in Märsta where he remains pending a new decision from migration officials about his future.

David Landes (david.landes@thelocal.se)

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Your comments about this article

12:09 June 4, 2009 by bolababu
once again, the Nigerian government has managed to embarrass its citizens. i am not surprised though, refusing a sick man entry at the point of his death is all they allow the world to see, i wish people were allowed to look in and see the onslaught on lives of innocent people including the ethnic-cleansing currently taking place in the Niger-Delta. This also shows though that the migration board bends the law in its favour.
12:30 June 4, 2009 by Vitas
We must always remember : Migrationsverket is banda idiots.

They have nothing common with Sweden.

These unhuman beings want destroy our world.
13:18 June 4, 2009 by Thebinary1
The most idiotic comment was:

"This trip was planned and carried out by the police, and it's the police's job to have the necessary contacts to ensure that the trip can take place. We had no reason to believe that he wouldn't be accepted by Nigeria," she told TV4.

Its like saying: "I had no reason to believe that I would be conned or ripped off".

Such comments serve to highlight the level of ignorance people in positions of authority have here in Government instiutions. Then again, the exact same thing could be said for all Immigration Heads all over the world - and Australia especially not-so-long-ago when it carried out deportations of its own citizens.

Anyway - such cases only serve to put forward the idea of a mechanised government where non-human elements play a role in the execution of policies right down to the individual. Privacy groups ofcourse hate this idea.
13:35 June 4, 2009 by Camorin
I second Vitas statement. There are a lot of idiots who probably completely lose their minds probably after working in this strange govt. institution where they have to decide people's fate every day. I guess it forces them to become sarcastic, cynical and even lose basic common sense. What is with laws which don't allow any room for something which would be obvious for a lay person?

Single children coming to Sweden are granted asylum while a child who has always been in Sweden is to be deported with her day who is convicted of abusing her. It is often people with skills and those who have good conduct that face most problems with the Migration Board. Not to mention the long waiting times which would discourage and dampen any enthusiastic immigrant to make his way into the new country's society. After waiting 2 years or so, these immigrations would have already got used to the passive lifestyle.
14:06 June 4, 2009 by summer
This report can be looked from various angle,

The Nigerian authority may be thinking the following?

This guy did not left his country with this ill health, why must he be returned with this?

Secondly, it can be looked as mr A is a student in sweden and had a car accident, since mr A could not be taken care of so therefore he have to be deported. without minding if he pays taxes or not and perform other civil obligations as an international student.

On the other hand, what duties do nigerian government hold to it's citizens?. i think if this guy happened to be a scientist, he will be given preferential treatment but due to condition, the opposite is the case.

in all, we all donate money to take care of people in developing countries, gives grants to countries and people in poor condition, why can't this help be rendered to this guy in this soil?
14:26 June 4, 2009 by byke
I feel sorry for the guy.

I cant imagine the horror of this reality.
17:24 June 4, 2009 by Tutu
I am happy with what Nigerian goverment have done. There have been 3 cases of students on Masters Programmed going mad in Sweden. they in turn bribe Ghana to take them, though they are from Nigerian. Nigeria do not have facilities to take care of Parkinson, why did not John return the way he came. Most terrorists are admitted into Sweden but hard working people with qualifications are not even given a chance.
18:14 June 4, 2009 by mkvgtired
Doesn't Sweden have enough thugs causing trouble they can deport. Leave this poor guy alone. This guy couldn't even harm anyone if he wanted to. Deport the rapists, thugs, robbers, muggers and murderers that are not full citizens. You will save more than enough money by doing that to take care of this poor guy. What a horrible disease to get at such a young age.
18:25 June 4, 2009 by Heebz
I must admit that I am disgusted by some of the comments I have read regarding this article! Tutu, you don't feel that a country has the personal responsibility of taking care of its citizens?!!! Both the Swedish and Nigerian governments deserve the blame on this issue. It should be of no surprise though that a country like Nigeria would do something so despicable. Bribery and corruption runs rampant in that country! I am sure they would have let that poor man back into his own country had some people been bribed, and the guy would just be left out on the streets to die! I am also shocked that a country like Sweden would deport a man that needs serious medical attention; Swede or non Swede he is still a human being and should be should be shown some compassion! Hopefully he gets to stay this time!
18:52 June 4, 2009 by paulojeaga

As a Nigerian I am proud of my country. Just as you will agree with me that migration is a human phenomemnon, John will very much have liked to be in his homeland if the odds we not there.

Anyway this is a wake up call for us all we cannot run away from those who oppress us forever.We must fight and remove them from high offices in that country.

This is just one of the numerous young Nigerians that is ending up been terminally indisposed in sweden.We reflect with you John and understand what you are passing through


19:12 June 4, 2009 by Mzungu

Admit, Uhuru has a better ring than Jihad,however don't believe this is the forum to start your desired revolution.

Please don't place the blame on little Sweden,for the ills of Nigeria.

*remember Nigeria is producing daily circa 4.5 billion barrels of oil*
19:47 June 4, 2009 by paulojeaga
Mzungu I know that crude is what you will think of when you hear nigeria.

I am not a muslim I dont support violence neither i'm I a revolutionist.

I believe in power of the ballot box.So be civil in your comments.

You are not Nigerian so be still air your views my dear its a free wolrd.

Its not yet Uhuru and Uhuru we stand peace
20:10 June 4, 2009 by swedeninsweden
"Svenskarna måste integreras i det nya Sverige, det gamla Sverige kommer inte tillbaka"

Mona Sahlin
20:22 June 4, 2009 by Nuname
Parkinsons isn't such a big deal. I expect he'll shake it off.
20:25 June 4, 2009 by Nemesis
Give the guy some humanitarian aid.

While at it, a suggestion.

Those who are imigrants to Sweden, who have actually committed crimes. Deport them instead.
20:31 June 4, 2009 by Mzungu
paulojeaga... Appreciate your pointing out from my post the allegedly uncivilised comments...

Best of luck in your non-violent actions to attain your Uhuru. Far better results and greater interest would likely be found by directing your energies of your quest for Uhuru on a Nigeria forum,don't you think?

*lycka till*
20:32 June 4, 2009 by jaswede
thats true Nemesis. a lot of the `so called´ refugees in sweden getting paid to attend Sfi and having more children than swedes should be sent back to their country also.
22:55 June 4, 2009 by infinity94
whatever the problem might be. John is a human being.. what? HUMAN BEING... so therefore John is HUMAN BEING.

He has the right to live as everyone have the right to live. everyone have to live anywhere in world. But John has speical situation, He is so ill and refuge.

You people, dont have conscience? no sense of feeling?

no heart? no mercy? who you are to judge a human? who are not able to survive... imagne your self instead of him.
23:31 June 4, 2009 by tigger007

just pray for him and god will take care of the rest!
23:32 June 4, 2009 by 7
which one?
03:01 June 5, 2009 by jimmyjames
You Swedes are too nice for your own good. You are going to continue to attempt to "save the world " and all those poor mistreated refugees until you commit national suicide. What to do ? Allow these people to study the Swedish way...the European way....in essence the way to have a civilized humane country then send them BACK so that they may utilize the knowledge you taught them. Ultimately they all need to find the courage and will to make their native countries decent places for their future fellow ethnic members instead of fleeing....which I find rather cowardly and selfish.
09:30 June 5, 2009 by Tennin
It's a tough situation.

Though I think Sweden should have focused first on sending home all the criminal immigrants/refugees, instead of a man who suffers from an illness.
15:10 June 5, 2009 by hardwood
A classic case of systematic and selective law bending and mis-interpretaion of Swedish immigrant laws.

How on earth could a poor sick guy like John be deported back to africa while he can receive better treatment here in Sweden?

What happened to the clause on compassionate and humanitarian grounds?
17:29 June 5, 2009 by etkjr
"*remember Nigeria is producing daily circa 4.5 billion barrels of oil* "

Actually, Nigeria is producing about 1.6 million bbls of oil / day currently - only of by a factor of about 3000X.
17:39 June 5, 2009 by Mzungu
What ever! Those figures were from 2006.

*efficiency comes with time*
19:03 June 5, 2009 by whattodo?
This is shocking and very sad. Some of us are vunerable because we are married with a Swedish born and never want to be separated, and we pray that we will be able to be a citizen soon. We have contributed to the economy and have commited no crimes. Yet, as this sad story proves, the most helpless of them all, can be turned away by these people in powerful positions that interpret whatever clear rules there are, however they choose. This is very frightening.
09:57 June 6, 2009 by Villary
Let me start by First asking some questions to both the Swedish & Nigeria gov't.


1. Before deportation did you contact the Nigeria Authority about the state of John, so they know how to handle it?

2. Did you make any research or ask yourselves questions about the possibilities of him getting good medication in his home country?

Sweden search your hearts & judge yourselves, if u hav regards for human life u will ask yourselves so many questions b4 going into such mission.

Nigeria Government.

Nigeria this is high time we grown up, This is a little lesson that should have a big impact to us. We aren't even ashamed to reject our own. 48years old with abondance of resources no good health care, to take care of John. Most we trade words with sweden while John dies? What if John is the Son of Obasanjo the Ex president, would he be thrown back to sweden?

In Summary, Sweden dont throw people's life around in the name of deportation think b4 you act. And Nigeria dont take the blame on the poor boy, because if you have given him good job he wouldn't even travel to Sweden to do, REKLAM AND MIDNITE PAPER JOBS.....
09:59 June 6, 2009 by Villary
In Summary, Sweden dont throw people's life around in the name of deportation think b4 you act. And Nigeria dont take the blame on the poor boy, because if you have given him good job he wouldn't even travel to Sweden to do, REKLAM AND MIDNITE PAPER JOBS.....
17:59 June 6, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
Nigeria has 150 million people and huge oil and mineral reserves, plus plenty of arable land. One does suspect that they could get their act together and take care of sick people, instead of expecting Sweden to do so. Unless posters don't believe Nigerians are capable of running their own country. Is that perhaps the issue? Nigerians want to Uhuru on us because they can't get their own country organised?
18:07 June 6, 2009 by Muttlestar Galactica
Don't you just adore the way that posters of a certain bent, no matter what part of a subject's spectrum they lie on, write as though they are grandly addressing whatever country or people involved directly...

E.g: "Sweden, ye will all die, unless ye repent ye niggardly immigrant loving ways!"

"Islam, ye fjuck thee little children and cannot reade for shite"

I love it.
18:34 June 6, 2009 by Mzungu
Not forgetting that a large percentage of that 150 million are busy ripping the remaining inhabitants off in any fashion deemed profitable. Other gangsters are wringing money out of naive dipsticks after informing them they have access to millions of £'s $'s or whatever.

*Nigeria like many other African countries,are a lost cause*
19:01 June 6, 2009 by koded
Swedish Migration board should take the blame here for wanting to return the guy to Nigeria. Why should they return him to Nigeria? It is like taking him to his grave while he wait to be buried. Nigeria and Sweden which has the best medical support? Of course, if the guy was taken to other country where he will recieve treatment or where his illness may be controlled that will be fine.

I can understand that Nigeria government or whoever that stop the guy from being return to Nigeria is trying to help the guy. Because they know that Nigeria dont have the medical facilities to take care of the guy.

But the bad thing is that the person(s) or Nigeria government has forgetting that this can only bring bad image for Nigeria. Because a country suppose not to refuse entry to its citizen expect on some other cases. and in this guys case He has right to be in his country dead or alive.

19:08 June 6, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
Sweden, with a population of 10 million, obviously cannot become responsible for the health and medical treatment of every person who enters the country illegally, or overstays a visa illegally.

Perhaps Nigeria would like to make a donation towards this man's medical treatment? A few barrels of oil?
19:31 June 6, 2009 by Muttlestar Galactica
I wonder what the Nigerian government would do if the roles were reversed?

*Sits back, cracks open a beer, scratches self.
19:41 June 6, 2009 by koded
This is another issue to be discussed. Should Nigerian government make a donation for olasupo's medical treatment abroad? Well, if you ask me I should say YES. Olasupo is a citizen of Nigeria and the country should take care of their citizen home or abroad. and in this case other people or groups who want the guy to live can as well support.

Also, I will like mention that if the migration board is returning olasupo to Nigeria based on the ground that he is illegal in the country I think it is another issue to be discussed and I think there should be condition on that return. Like if he is return and then allow to enter the country for his treatment or been taken to another country that is better for his treatment.

Meanwhile, this issue should be taken into consideration if migration dont know that olasupo is living in sweden until he is sick.
15:27 June 12, 2009 by Minister
Poor John,a dissapointment all the more bittern because the unattained ideal was unbounded save by the simple ignorance of a lowly people.But before the namesless prejudice that leaps beyond all this the African stands helpless,dismayed,and well-nigh speechless;before that personal disrespect and mockery,the ridicule and systematic humiliation,the distortion of fact and wanton license of fancy,the cynical ignoring of the better and boisterous welcoming of the worse,the all pervading desire to inculcate disdain for everything BLACK,from toussant to the devil,before this there rises a sickening despair that would disarm and discourage any nation save that BLACK host to whom "discouragement" is an unwritten word.
18:33 June 12, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
(1) we not any more "lowly" than any other people,

(2) The "the unattained ideal was unbounded" doesn't actually mean anything in the English language.

You may want to spin this as a racial issue, with all "BLACK" people somehow being victimised by this situation, but this is not a matter of bigotry, or even ideology, it is an issue of financial responsibility and a national policy based upon an evaluation of multiple priorities.

We have a responsibility to each other as Swedes, regardless of our skin colour, and we extend that social contract to some extent to legal resident aliens in Sweden. If the man in question fell into either of those two groups, he would partake in that social contract. We also extend assistance to many people outside these two groups as a matter of choice, but not as an obligation. I would not be in any way adverse to the man in question receiving medical care funded at least in part by Sweden as a sort of foreign assistance, but I am adverse to being bullied into "ownership" of this problem as a result of people such as yourself playing the race card.

We are not responsible for him any more than we would be for someone completely unrelated to Sweden, because he has not entered into the social contract himself. In fact, quite the contrary, he has either illegally entered the country, or has over-stayed his permitted time. He has actually violated the social contract. A person cannot simply wake up in the morning and decide that they should be the recipient of Swedish welfare and health services; there is a legal process and a set of legal criteria.

And before I get the customary "you are heartless" comments about expecting people to follow the processes established by our democratically elected officials, I will pre-empt those comments by saying that establishing and maintaining these legal processes is far more humane than allowing chaos and confusion to determine public policy. Sweden is in a position to help many people because we do make an effort to maintain coherent public policy.

So, in other words, you are an obnoxious moron, and you diatribe against the people of Sweden is offensively ignorant. If you are so concerned about this man, why don't you raise some money to help him, instead of wasting your time alienating people who might actually be sympathetic to his situation?
15:19 June 18, 2009 by Minister
The unattained ideal was unbounded is an idiom.Idioms are not listed in dictionaries.Hence i will condescend to advocate simplicity in a language that you can comprehend.John's deportation was not a matter of national policy but based on a personal decision.Whether or not this desicion was taken consciously or not remains a matter of great debate.My comments are based on statistics and relatively a bit of history.History tells us that the Swedish mass immigration to the United States in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries was part of the social transformation that affected both Europe and North America,when between 1850 and 1950 some fifty million Europeans settled in non-european areas.The mass exodus of some 1.3 million Swedes to the United States,often young men and women during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries was due to the economic and social circumstances in Sweden.

A strong population growth in Sweden increased the pressure on a society which was fundamentally agriculture in nature,and moving to North America provided the Swedish emigrants with the economic opportunity not available in the homeland.The Swedes as well as the Europeans were accepted whole heartedly even when there was a strain on the financial resources to cope with the influx.So why the bias on foreign immigration to Sweden and the rest of europe as witnessed in the recent National and European Parliamentary polls with the dominant election of center right parties?Afterall immigration in its entirety has not been rudimentary cause of the global financial crisis.I think the real moran here is you.

Dear John,

you have been a veteran of creative suffering,continue to work with faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.In God we trust.

Yours truly,

20:12 June 18, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
Are you implying that I am Irish?

You've misunderstood the implications of the history that you are attempting to lecture me upon.

(1) Swedish immigrants were actively sought after in the United States during the time period that you spoke of because they were perceived to be above average workers with above average skills, AND there was a shortage of both agricultural and industrial workers in the US at that time. Sweden has not actively sought out John for his skill set.

(2) Swedish immigrants were engaged in the legal act of immigration. Your friend John has broken our laws and is an illegal immigrant.

(3) Swedish immigrants were offered almost no state funded support by the US government, and certainly were not provided free health care.

Want to go have another think about these things and try again?
17:15 June 20, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
Minister- for the record, I googled "the unattained ideal was unbounded", and learned that this is in fact an English idiom associated with civil rights, and that you have used it correctly. So you get marks for that. I still maintain that at a literal level it doesn't make any sense, but I am a simple Swedish potato farmer, so what would I know about English idioms.

On the other hand, I still maintain that attacking Swedes as being "lowly" and "ignorant" is both counter-productive and offensive. I found myself going from being somewhat sympathetic to John's situation to being completely un-sympathetic as a result of your post.

You are not working for Sverigedemokraterna are you?
14:31 June 22, 2009 by Minister
Health care is not free for the ordinary American citizen,likewise the same goes for all.The law you say? Speaking of the law,Sweden did not adopt the law concerning ethnic discrimination until 1999,even though this was required by the UN convention on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination(CERD) when it was ratified by Sweden in 1971.Sweden and much of Europe have not come much further than the US of the 1960s.In words and theory equal rights are assumed to exist;discrimination is denied;racism is narrowly defined so that it only applies to ideological extremists.In actions concerning ethnic minorities,including immigrants,they are to be helped,educated(SFI),trained,controlled and disciplined.That hides and deflects the focus from those with the power to discriminate and those who benefit from discrimination.This denial contributes to recreating the institutional racism in Sweden and Europe related to ethnicity and religion.Merely the concrete test of the underlying principles of a great republic is the Black problem,and the spiritual striving of the African is the travail of souls whose burden is almost beyond the measure of their strength,but who bear it in the name of an historic race in the name of human opportunity.I cut my tooth as a black racoon for the inflamence of battle.The unemployed are hungry,so also does welfare discourage hardwork.As a denegration of your intellect,it has been assumed that somehow anything Black is always equated to failure.Mark this as a new beginning,the Africanis not just a color of the Swedish fabric.It is the thread that holds it all together.We are aware of the Anglo-Saxans resistance to change,but the time for justice,equality,and freedom of expression has come.And that time is today.AN UNJUST LAW IS NO LAW AT ALL!

Yours Truly,


John is not personally known to me.He is just one of the many Africans in diaspora;and because of my morality and respect for human dignity I speak on his behalf,lest he be removed for expediency sake.And for the record,this is not a lecture.I get paid for summary lectures and yes i have worked with Sverigedemokraterna as well as other non-governmental asssociations.
16:27 June 22, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran

Your rhetoric is impressive, I assure you, but it does not change the essential facts of the case. A Swedish citizen, or legal resident, of any ethnicity, receives state subsidised health care. Illegal immigrants, of any ethnicity, do not have a right to state subsidised health care.

If a boatload of Russians motored into Stockholm looking for treatment for their parkinson's disease, bearing in mind that ethnic Rus are in fact Swedes that wandered east, I would still be saying "put them back on their boat and send them back to where they came from."

Russia, Nigeria, it makes no difference. They need to get themselves organised to deal with the needs of their own people, and not expect us to be their safety net. In fact, one of the negative associations with giving foreign aid and accepting so many refugees is that it helps relieve pressure on bad regimes.
14:38 June 23, 2009 by Minister
On your earlier comment it wasn't until the enactment of the 1924 IRL Immigration Act that the Swedes were actively being sought for their skills as u put it.Being sought from the time period of 1850 is a misappropriation of fact.The Swedes as well as many other Europeans migrated to America 74 years before legal restrictions were put in place.They moved FREELY not LEGALLY since there were no restrictions then.Hence the 1924 IRL Immigration Act favoured immigration from Nordic Countries not just Sweden alone.Every human has skills including John.Certification of it is just a paper.

Yours Truly,


Sure you don't have a bit of Irish lineage in your ancestry since your always opposed to suffrage and emancipation?
15:03 June 23, 2009 by Anmiga

There's nothing you can say that justifies Nigeria not taking responsibility for this sick man, in one way or another.

It only proves that Nigeria is a "sick nation" when it rejects it's own and let's someone else pay the bill.
07:11 June 24, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
Not a misappropriation of fact at all. Swedes and Norwegians were sought as tenant farmers all across the midwest starting in the second half of the 1800s, and there were efforts such as this as well:


14:51 June 24, 2009 by Minister
At all events, the discussion of future grave but, with effort now, avoidable evils is the most unpopular and at the same time the most necessary occupation for the politician. Those who knowingly shirk it deserve, and not infrequently receive, the curses of those who come after.If Nigeria is a sick nation then tell me what makes it so?And why has this illness continued to plunder the wealth of a great Nation and who are the culprits of such discrepancies?
15:35 June 24, 2009 by Minister
the website address http://www.aroostook.me.us/newsweden/ you have given has generated an error messaging stating this page cannot be displayed could you please check the web address again and improvise.
18:31 June 24, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
Works fine for me. Don't know what to tell you.

Guess that you could Google the topic, though, if you are really interested.

Here is another link for you to follow:

18:36 June 24, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
LOL. Aroostook.

I wonder what would happen if he tried using: www.thecounty.org or www.goawayayuh.org?

BTW - the link furnished works fine for me. But then again, I'm married to a Mainer and thus approved to access these things.

Since we're jabbering about all things Svensk-Amerikansk, do I need to dig up the history of Delaware, as well?
18:52 June 24, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
I have always maintained that Clas Fleming doesn't get the love that he deserves, Kang.

I sometimes wonder how the relatives who left for The County felt when they arrived at their new homes, after their long voyage, to find that the County is cold, dark, impoverished, mosquito infested, and good only for growing potatoes.
18:57 June 24, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
With a nod and a scratch of the chin they thought, "All is lagom."
03:40 June 25, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
I had forgotten that you taught at UMaine. Would you be willing to share with us the reason for your dismissal? I think that I spent a night at some sort of a UMaine facility in Calais once- sort of a rustic lodge. Does this sound right? I was drinking more in those days...

The annoying thing about Fort Kent is that there is a train that runs there, but only for freight. Passenger rail would make that area much more accessible. I made the drive up from Boston a couple times, and it was unpleasant. I seem to remember running out of highway someplace north of Bangor, and then dodging Moose the rest of the way. Too much like home for my taste!

Part of my family moved to Jemtland Maine in the late 1800s- notice that at the time that the New Sweden area was settled, the accursed "ä" had not yet been inflicted upon us. I have thought about buying a vacation house there, as property is inexpensive, but it is just too far off the beaten path.

And yes, Kang, you are probably right. They probably just went about their business without remark. That generation was far more stoic than us. These days we can't seem to even pick a therapist without help from our support group. Except for you, Dr. Ford. We know that you remain as uncompromising and virile as ever.

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16:09 June 25, 2009 by Minister
Before we go into any further dispute let us have a review of the laws.

The priviledge of US Citizenship is limited to "Free white Persons."

(American's first naturalization law 1790)

"Any person unable to take care of himself or herself without becoming a public charge "is prohibited from entering the United States."

(1882 Act to Regulate)

The passage of the Immigration Act of 1924(The Johnson-Reed Act)resulted from a mixture of fears and hate,tempered by idealism and by vision,which lie behind the complex motivations of congressional action.Under this act only some one hundred and fifty thousands would be permitted to enter the United States.If you were of Anglo-Saxan origin,you could have over two-thirds of the quota numbers alloted to your people.If you were Japanese you could not come in at all.The US congress decided that presrving the racial composition of the country was more important than promoting good ties with the Japanese empire.In all of its parts the most basic of its purpose was to preserve the ideal of American homogeneity.The law was later revised in 1952.

Yours Truly,


I admire your patriotism but it would be wrong to dismiss the fact that the 1.3 million Swedes migrated FREELY not LEGALLY.Some were sought but most moved due to the recession back home.Evidence of the recession and migration of Swedes is even located in the museums across stockholm.
17:18 June 25, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
For what it's worth, my mother-in-law hasn't seen the sun in weeks. Hooray for Maine!
20:39 June 25, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
So we are in agreement that Swedes were welcome immigrants in the US at that time. The US still had huge tracts of unsettled land; areas where even Indians had never settled. Trains were starting to open up the Great Plains, and Americans wanted Swedes to farm there. Did you know that Indians never lived on the Plains until they got horses from the Spanish? It is a hard place to make a living, and as Indians never invented the wheel or metal, they couldn't farm through the tough sod in any appreciable way.

I know that it seems that Sweden is also largely unpopulated, but that is an illusion. Our forests are being managed sustainably, and will not support more cutting over the long term. The Baltic Sea is polluted and unproductive. We cannot responsibly take in more people than we can feed and employ, although we may have already done that. We don't have many entry level jobs for recent arrivals, as the world economy has moved these sorts of jobs to other places. We will always want talented and motivated people from around the world to do research, IT work, and so forth, and we are even willing to educate said people at our universities to support this. We are more vulnerable than many countries to climate change and the worldwide peaking and eventual decline of oil supplies, so we need to think to the future, especially now that our fisheries are in bad shape.

You know what would be a great place for immigrants? Nigeria! It is huge and has vast tracts of arable land, as well as tremendous mineral wealth. There should be lots of food and jobs there!
20:53 June 25, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
Maine, the other Sweden.

Yahhhmuth? Falllmuth? Kum-brr-lannd?

Something like that, isn't it? My memory is fail at the moment. I think Minister is sucking the very joy from my life, clouding my mind with the depressing history of Amerikan immigration policy, for which somehow I am now accountable.

Unfortunately Minster is still barking up the wrong tree, as I am not swayed in any way by the colour of one's skin. In my view there are Jamts, who are the highest form of life, honorary Jamts who come next (you know who you are), and then the great unwashed. If you happen to be dark-skinned Jamt, you are still superior to everyone else.

If you really want to get me to change my mind about John, Minister, get him married off to a Jamt.
21:41 June 25, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
Yarmouth, of course.

I wonder...does Nigeria assume responsibility, financial or otherwise, for her former citizens? Deportee or not?
14:48 June 26, 2009 by Minister
Its not the first time i've had to lecture a native born about their history.The following website confirms the whole truth about Swedish immigration history... www.augustana.edu/swenson/history.htm published by The Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center tel:+3097947204 email:sag@augustana.edu.The buck stops here.
15:32 June 26, 2009 by unkle strunkle
Gustav, thanks for your reasoned insights into Sweden's immigration policy.

Minister, take your sermons back to Black Liberation Theology class, they have no relevance here.
16:27 June 26, 2009 by Princess P
Why are you saying that the Irish are opposed to the right to vote and opposed to the right to be free from oppression?

Pedantics. The fact is that however you try to word it they were not breaking the law by being there. The guy in this case was breaking the law. And what Swedes were doing in America over a hundred years ago has nothing to do with what Nigerians are doing today.
16:29 June 26, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
Darn tootin!

Besides - I don't recall the Swedes setting up elaborate email scams in the United States, either.

(hey - someone was going to say it)
17:47 June 26, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
Could this debate get any more surreal?

Minister, feel free to continue posting your ideological manifesto without prompting from me. Apparently you are more interested in projecting a set of positions that I don't actually have upon me than actually responding to any positions that I post. I understand that this is your big issue and that you have a lot to say, so by all means, keep it coming. Good luck. Let us know if you get the whole thing worked out.

Do you know who might want to exchange posts about American immigration policy and history with you? JoeMath! Are you out there Joe? You are needed.
12:55 June 29, 2009 by Destroyer007
Dear princess p or whatever u call youreslf,The Irish were opposed to the right to vote and opposed to the right to be free from oppression check your history.They were considered a lower race than the Negroes so in order for the to exalt their whiteness they were opposed to suffrage and emancipation by the negroes.Dear unkle strunkle or whatever you call yourself what would you know about black liberation?Have you tried run ning for the presidency in Sweden?Dear Gustav you seem like the only reasonable person here,but i would disagree with you when you say why doesn't john get married to a jamT?why marry him off to a jamt when everyone knows he can pay for a resident permit for a black market price of 60-120 thousand sewdish kronor from corrupt swedish migration officials who preach one thing then do the other.And who is a jamt?Your beginning to sound like a skin head pirate.Dear high pristess kang slut or whatever you call yourself the westerner collaborators are partly to blame for the problems in Africa because they have helped in ensuring stolen monies get to foreign accounts by african leaders for a percentage of it.Thats why scams and illegal immigration take place today.
13:05 June 29, 2009 by 7
dear destroyer007 or whatever you call yourself. why do you address everyone in this way?
13:15 June 29, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
Dear Destroyer007...

Why don't you understand the concept of a paragraph?


High Priestess Kang - Slut, Card Carrying Mossad Member *and* Westerner Collaborator
13:18 June 29, 2009 by Princess P
I know my history very well thank you very much. I know that my great grandfather, along with many others, was imprisoned and sentenced to death by the British for fighting against oppression. That hardly fits with your sweeping statement about Irish people now does it.

Do you have any fish to go with those shoulder chips?
15:53 July 1, 2009 by NotNice
Princess P, May God give you patience and mental strength which are the most vital things for carrying on a non-violent struggle.I have cross checked what the Destroyer 007 is saying and found it to be true.It was perpetuated by Irish immigrants in America.Only then, they felt it had to be done as a matter of necessity.But evil shoulnd't be returned with evil.Whatever may be the case,the problems of Africa needs to be addressed especially in the areas of bribery and corruption.Only then can we curb the exegiencies of illegal immigration.
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