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Four in ten back far-right cooperation: poll

TT/The Local · 16 Oct 2009, 08:48

Published: 16 Oct 2009 08:48 GMT+02:00

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While 83 percent of Swedes agreed with the statement that the Sweden Democrats were a "racist party", 38 percent considered it correct for the other major parties to cooperate with them, according to a new Demoskop survey.

Among sympathizers with the centre-right Alliance coalition parties, 42 percent backed cooperation with the Sweden Democrats if they garnered more than the four percent of votes required to enter parliament.

Of the voters supporting one of the centre-left red-green coalition, 30 percent supported a cooperation.

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"The other parties say that they do not want to cooperate, or they say nothing. I am quite convinced that people want order in our parliament," Sweden Democrat leader Jimmie Åkesson told the Expressen newspaper.

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09:48 October 16, 2009 by Renfeh Hguh
This is a sad state of affairs for Sweden that Swedes feel a level of support for a far right party like this. It goes to show that the Swedish public is starting to openly admit that the Swedens policy of uncontrolled and poorly managed immigration is not for them.

It is time for the major parties here to acknowledge that the current immigration policy is not working and is not good for Sweden. If these parties set a policy that sets Swedens own best interest as a high priority rather than the current "bend over and take it just to appear nice" policy, then the support for SD would erode over night.
09:53 October 16, 2009 by bettan1
Do I hear the word "homogeneous" echoing somewhere ?
10:42 October 16, 2009 by Nemesis
This does not suprise me. This will be the back door by which the racists will rise to power and finally destroy Sweden. Sweden did not fight in WW2 so does not have a clue what the far right is really about. The rest of us in Europe learned that lesson the hard way. My family is still trying to find the last of our war dead in combat, 70 years later.

There is serious problems in Sweden with immigration, but those are nearly all caused by the immigration department. Personally I think the people in the immigration department are deliberately creating the situation that is occurring, so as to create a racist backlash.

If Sweden really needs young workers, why is Sweden not prioritising young people from the European Union first, instead of discriminating against them in favour of people outside the European Union.

The employment agency has arbetsjobbsplatts for asylum seeker people from outside the European Union to place them in jobs, but will not help an EU citizen unless they have been here 3 years. That is blatant racism against Europeans.

If someone wants to create hatred against groups from outside Europe, that is the perfect way to go about it. If they treated everyone equally, I would not have an issue, but they do not treat everyone equally. They should either place all people equally in jobs, or no one at all.

When I am back in Glasgow, Belfast and Donegal, I know lots of people who are very hard workers who would move to Sweden in a heartbeat, but from the Sweden rules for immigrants which descriminate against Europeans, know they are not welcome. I have spoken to Polish, Czech, German, French, Dutch, Austrian, Irish, English, Welsh, Scottish and Swiss immigrants to Sweden about this, who work in unskilled labour jobs. All have noticed the same thing. It is different from skilled labour and very noticeable at the bottom of the ladder. At the bottom of the ladder is where the majority of voters are.

Strangely when looking through my address book, last night, I noticed that at least 1/3 of people I know from Ulster and Scotland have last names that are purely Scandinavian in origin. 70% of the people in my address book are of Germanic/Scandinavian descent. The discrimination against them is interesting and does makes me wonder about what is really going on in the immigration department in Sweden.

I think there is more to the rules in the immigration department and employment agency than we are being told. I also believe that whoever sets those rules is blatantly racist.
10:48 October 16, 2009 by DreEstwd
What you hear is a nation full of people who are fed up with excessive violent crime, the highest rape #s in Europe, rocks being thrown at their paramedics/firefighters/police and tax money being wasted on a generally ungrateful group of people. Cue the PC brigade recklessly throwing around the words 'racism' and 'Nazi'..............now.
11:16 October 16, 2009 by Nemesis
@ DreEstwd

I have went to Rosengård in Malmo and Sodertalje and watched the people attacking the firefighters and ambulance drivers.

I watched the people who gave orders and the people who carried them out, when they were performing the attacks. Those attacks are purely organised. Only occassionally is it kids acting on there own. About 8 out of 10 attcks are planned by adults and executed by kids.

The kids parents should have there children removed as they are not fit to look after them.

I have seen this nonsense before in Belfast and Derry in Northern Ireland. Different people pulling the strings, but the exact same thing with the same methods and aims.

Being from Belfast, I know exactly what to look for and how to observe, without being seen. Every single time I have watched as the people giving the orders left and went straight to a prayer house or more accurately headquarters.

The people directing these attacks want to turn there areas into no go areas. Then they can cement control. It is purely politcal people who are doing this. The kids are being used, for poltical ends and having there lives destroyed in the process.

The very small minority of people who are directing these attacks on firefighters and ambulance drivers need to be identified and sent back to there country of origin. If they are in danger by being sent back there, that is there own problem. They should have thought before directing attacks on emergency response crews who daily risk there lives to save all people, regardless of creed, colour, sex or race.

If you don't believe me, ask a firefighter or ambulance worker is who is not Swedish in origin. You will get a response that will make anything that the Sweden Democrats say, look like a statement by a dope smoking hippy, regarding what should be done about it. Swediesh response workers play it down. Immigrant response workers will tell you exactly what is occurring.

I always make a point of confirming everything for myself.
11:42 October 16, 2009 by Mike #1986
I am a immigrant myself but Im not going to bore you with the facts just get to the point !!!

Racism is every were GLOBAL and it's nothing New!!!!

why is Sweden's population so anti you are not alone with the issues at state.

The throwing of stones at state workers sure its absolutely wrong and they should be jailed.

I've seen it before in Sydney 'Redfern when the Aborigines throw stones at the police every time the drove by ...Its a sign of hate and anger which needs to be dealt. You don't need a far right policy of Nazis to sole the problem you need a a group of professionals on changing the thoughts on intergration.
13:09 October 16, 2009 by Beynch
After what the extremist, leninist, Palme-party has done to Sweden noone should be shocked over a genuine heartfelt backlash from all decent Swedes. More power to SD, even though I never voted for them. Throw this leftist social democrat filth on trash heap of history. Permanently!
13:23 October 16, 2009 by Rick Methven
Beynch for Fuhrer
14:40 October 16, 2009 by Gwrhyr
Scary, scary, scary. The SD basically want to enact their own version of Shariah law. They want to reintroduce the death penalty, take away gay rights, reintroduce forced military conscription, build up the Swedish military industrial complex (more funding to the military, stop the phase-out of mandatory conscription, give incentives to the Swedish arms manufacturers), and use your tax money to send immigrants to the countries of their heritage.

It's really ironic how many votes SD would get if they increased immigration from very conservative places within the Islamic world... yet they want to send them all packing out of Sweden.

It's also ironic how they claim to defend Swedish values, when, whether you like it or not, far-right values aren't Swedish values... Swedish values are the opposite of the values they stand for.

But in the end, the poitical parties have to cooperate in some way or else the party will feel martyred (sound familiar?) and then grow in strength based on that.
14:49 October 16, 2009 by Beynch

Assuming what you're saying is true - it's clearly not - why do you think that is? Why are so many swedes taking to extremes? Are most swedes a bunch of ignorant, undereducated, nazi, xenophobic, slobs? Of course you know better! You're a besserwisser charter member of the SSU.
17:18 October 16, 2009 by Rick Methven
With the SD in power Sweden would be a wilderness within 10 years.

This is their policy

"The nationalist principle is based on the concept of the nation state, that the territorial boundaries of the state shall coincide with its demographic boundaries. In its ideal form, such a society is therefore ethnically homogenous. Cultural diversity is as necessary to mankind as biological diversity is to nature. The different cultures are mankind's common heritage and they should be acknowledged and kept apart for the benefit of us all."

Do they think that other countries will trade with them? They want all cultures to be kept apart. OK they would be apart. No contact no trade. Sweden would revert to a n agricultural society, scraping a living off the land. Shortages of imports would lead to a collapse of the infrastructure. Result Apocalypse Now!
17:49 October 16, 2009 by vladd777
@Beynch..Must say that i kinda agree with you. One needs to dilute the 'poison' and so maybe the SD is the answer.
17:57 October 16, 2009 by Social Hypocrisy
Bring them on I say!

Are they pro EU? If not they will go the same way as the greens and reds (eg, having to change their tune to remain relevent in the real world).

If they are pro EU, they are not going to stop immigration.

One of the EU's main goals is to stop extreme ideologies taking control. We dont want a repeat of the 2nd World War.

The Guardian did an interesting piece after the BNP did so well in the UK.

The new tactic is to let them in, and when they start having to work with the big boys, in function within the european poitical areana, they self explode!

Simply said, any country can have any government so long as it operates under and is superseded by EU law.

The action is in Brussels now. If you want to make a difference, thats the place to do it.
18:06 October 16, 2009 by Querist
*breaking news*

BNP to consider non-white members!


Ya gotta luv those limeys.

18:12 October 16, 2009 by Social Hypocrisy
As for repatriation, Im all for it.

Drag all the swedes back from whichever country they are residing in, sounds like a good start.

But it will never happen.

Like it or loath it immigration is here to stay for us all.
18:25 October 16, 2009 by Tutu
I have not seen anybody respond to Rick Methven's comment. I believe that he has raised very important question and how will SD avert the problem that Rick is predicting.

The other question i want to raise is why do swedes that have lived outside the shores of sweden dont want to have anything to do with it again.
18:34 October 16, 2009 by Gwrhyr
Beynch, what do you mean it isn't true? Have you looked at their website? Have you read their party platform? Which parts of what I said about SD aren't true? I've spent time reading all the party platforms of all the major political parties in Sweden in a search to find one that fits me best. I don't think you're quite aware of what the SD's policies are, since I did not exaggerate them at all.
19:26 October 16, 2009 by Nemesis
@ Gwrhyr

Copuld you please send me a private message with a complete list of the SD policies?

I have never read a complete list of there policies, yet.
19:49 October 16, 2009 by boby
I am a Jew and I am voting for SD! Its time we Europeans stand against the ethnic cleansing performed against us by the left parties that were in control for the last 3 decades.

The backlush is not local. It is starting everywhere in Europe. People open their eys and find their beautiful countries turned into slams. I hope that the trend is picking up. So SD will not need to change anything when in power position, as thier opinions will fit the rest of Europe perfectely.
19:52 October 16, 2009 by Beynch
Gwrhyr and tutu and others: The SD party platform also says;

"The party dissociates itself from all forms of totalitarianism and racism and states that it considers the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights a fundamental component of its politics. Furthermore, the party says that its fundamental goal is to combine the principle of social and economic justice with traditional conservative values. For this reason, the party believes that it is not easily pinpointed on the traditional left-right political spectrum in Swedish politics."

So where do we go from here? The point is not whether SD is the perfect world. It is probably not. The point is instead that the disastrous filth emanating from decades Palme indoctrinated s-rule has altered Sweden in an offensive manner, egged on by infantile marxist, besserwisser, slimeballs headed up by a media leaning solidly to the left and who wish to drag Sweden down to a DDR-like dictatorship, where this imagined dream-like 'equality` rules everything. This must be defeated at all costs! And SD is about to make a significant contribution to this end. Swedes are sick of BAU (business as usual) and any rise in SD influence can be laid squarely at the feet of `S' and its bottom scraping minions. Oh, and let me say it so there is no misunderstanding, Sweden does need substantial immigration to sustain her future, but by contributing immigrants.
19:54 October 16, 2009 by Renfeh Hguh
OMG some of you are so stupid, can't you read?

"Four of ten Swedish voters would support the major parties cooperating......." does not mean that SD will get 40% of the votes and therefore have a chance at running Sweden.

It means that 40% of Swedes would not be worried if the party they vote for (M, Soc Dem etc..) works with SD to make up the numbers to get/remain in government. NOTHING MORE

SD will NEVER get in power but the support they get, might just happen wake up the major parties and get them changing their immigration policies and stop Sweden being a dumping ground ot the worlds trash!
20:31 October 16, 2009 by Kaethar
OMG, so many non-democratic nutjobs on here. Democracy is fine, as long as parties you like get elected right? This number is actually too low. More people should be for cooperating with a party that is elected by the people. SD don't preach racial superiority or anything that would be punishable under Sweden's hate laws. But what they do have is vastly differing views to the majority of the population. Which is FINE. If they get above 4% of the votes (god forbid) the other parties shouldn't just ignore them! Isn't this obvious?
20:40 October 16, 2009 by sasboy
By most objective accounts, Sweden is one of the least racist countries on earth, with a long history of accepting and welcoming asylum seekers and immigrants from across the world.
20:53 October 16, 2009 by Beynch

....which is part of the problem.
20:57 October 16, 2009 by vladd777
@Tutu.."The other question i want to raise is why do swedes that have lived outside the shores of sweden dont want to have anything to do with it again.."

The lack of sunshine is a big reason as well as the low level of privatisation jobwise.

Actually many swedes do return home as they miss the family ties.
22:59 October 16, 2009 by wenddiver
Assylum seekers who are violent, enter the host country on false premises. They have to be sent back or there is no system/country.

You could probably end the throwing of rocks at emergency workers by announcing that the boys caught will be turned over to a Gay, Jewish or Atheist family in Sweden to raise.

That should get the Iman's boys out of the streets!
04:59 October 17, 2009 by Typical Whitey
Wake up Sweden, and all of Europe. You are being taken over swiftly by the scourge of islam. Your choices will be conversion, enslavement, or death by the sword.
07:22 October 17, 2009 by Ben Wallis
I think most of the propaganda and hatred is actually coming from the non SD parties. They are always going on about how they will not work with SD, about how they should just ignore them, etc etc. But as someone above pointed out Sweden is a Democracy, and if enough people vote for SD then that is that. That's how Democracies are meant to work. You need to accept and RESPECT other people's views. Everybody gets a vote.

I personally don't believe most of the propaganda the other parties spin. SD is not racist, just a group of people standing up for what is Swedish. I've done enough reading to know that the most successful countries are generally the most homogeneous. Multiculturalism leads to competition and fighting between people, who's getting more benefits? etc etc. The Multiculturalists will try to make you feel guilty if you don't agree that everyone should be let into your country. What a load of rubbish. The world is waking up to this lie. I'll give it less than 20 years.
09:36 October 17, 2009 by Tutu
by Beynch. That is what they tell us on paper. There was a time they were recorded singing Hitler songs and making racist comments on a boat trip. the female reporter was almost thrown inside the water. Many occassions they have compromised their constitution. Let us call them what they are RACISTS
11:27 October 17, 2009 by Rick Methven
You SD supporters have obviously not learnt any lessons from history.

They are playing the same game as Hitler did. First you get support by stirring up concern and hatred for minority groups. Appear reasonable so as not to get too much suspicion so that they can get into parliament. Then push for policies that the people like - Foreigners are the cause of all our troubles. Once they have a majority, out come the jackboots and the only people who have any rights are the select members of the party in power. The SD like the National Front and all the Nazi parties in Europe have studied the history of the third Reich and want to emulate it in their own countries.

Boby the SD supporting Jew. Watch out . If your wish comes true and the SD take over Sweden, you wont live long. Whatever they 'say' now they are definitely anti-Semitic
11:27 October 17, 2009 by tonycobh
As a very frequent visitor from Ireland for over 20 years I can tell you the problem very simply. Sweden created the most advanced progressive culture the world has ever seen. This was built to a considerable degree on Swedish cultural principles built up over many centuries. I refer to honesty, tolerance, a work etich etc.

Believe me now when I say this - and sorry for the flame. SWEDEN IS BEING DESTROYED. You simply cannot import vast numbers of people from utterly and totally incompatible cultures and expect Sweden to stay the same. I have seen a dramatic decline in Sweden over 20 years due to this. I met a girl who told me 'I dont feel safe anywhere'. That's Sweden today folks.

And for Chrissake, why can't there be a discussion on these issues without immediately throwing in Hitler, the Nazis and sqealing 'racist'? Wait! I know - it's because those people know that the facts are against them.

Wake up Swedes. Take back your marvellous country before it becomes another Lebanon.
12:13 October 17, 2009 by Ben Wallis
Rick Methven

Its actually people like you that have not learnt from history. The thing that you did not learn was that if you put large groups of very different people together in the one place there eventually will be trouble. There are two competing interests which sooner or later will flare up. I feel its far more mature and honest for everyone just to admit this. I see nothing wrong with that. We are not talking about some people being better than others just different, so you live in peace in your country with your fellow similarly minded citizens and I live in mine with my similarly minded fellow citizens. I have read many books which consistently show the majority of people in many countries actually want ethnically homogeneous societies. They simply work better when everyone has common interests, culture and beliefs. People like sameness. People seek out friends who have common interests.

When you rent out a room in your house you often look for someone who will "fit in" the same should go for your country.

Its views like that of Rick Methven that are so immature and don't learn from history. Instead of learning that we don't all fit in together, they want you to ignore all of history and just throw everyone in together and just say "let's all love and respect each other" People and views like this creat trouble. Grow up, learn from history, there is nothing wrong with different groups of people living in there own countries with their own beliefs and cultures without being destroyed by others.

You can see the hypocrisy in this point of view if you change the host country and people. Would Rick be pushing that view hundreds of years ago that Australian Aborigines, American Indians etc etc should be tolerant and allow other civilizations to come in to their territory. I don't think so. unfortunately at the present time Rick has political correctness on his side, but sooner or later many people will see through the lie he is pushing and the destruction he is causing. I hope people like this are held to account in 20 years time.
12:27 October 17, 2009 by Jack123
People This party wants to take sweden to another stage that rasism and the death penalty are good for the country. Come on The guy is hitler with a swedish pass. :(
14:58 October 17, 2009 by Expat1
As a foreigner, it seems to me that Swedes are very proud of what Sweden stands for. I hope that in 50 years, you are not going to wake up to find that the majority of people living in Sweden have a differnt view. At that point you cannot turn the clock back to save the very things that you cherish so much now.

Please do not take that Welcome mat away from the front door, but do consider saying "We respect your beliefs, but you must embrace and comit to our ideals!"
17:23 October 17, 2009 by Tutu
Ben Wallis, I dont know what you are talking about. before the arrival of the Finnish and people from the eastern block sweden was in a mess. I dont know what history you are talking about. Sweden was so bad that people emigrated en mIillions and many died in the process. It is you that need to read our history book very well. If you have problem with a religion it is one thing but hating people from a particular race is madness and foolishness. saab, volvo and the rest are being rescued now by immigrants and not swedes. Please dont insult our intelligence on this forum. SD will take swden back 100 years. SWEDEN WAKE UP
20:22 October 17, 2009 by Gwrhyr
Nemesis, it's all available on their website in clear Swedish. But most people here haven't even bothered to look into their policies, or to check out the blogs of the party leaders.

Beynch, you have the right to say all that, but I also have the right to say how the SD's rise makes me feel, which is fearful. I don't really think you care about the SD, though, either. You're just anti-left is all.

Ben Wallis won't get the world he wants because he doesn't even know from history that the nation-state isn't the natural state of things. Government, religion, and populations are constantly changing and morphing and growing and reforming and changing. Conservatives like you always lose out in the end, and sadly you don't even recognize the good things that you've received from people who were crazy liberals in the past... were you put to work in a sweat shop at the age of 5? No, because crazy liberals fought for anti-child-labor laws. If the conservatives of that time had their way, that wouldn't have come through. Thank goodness conservatives don't rule the world. They never due, because change rules the world, and it tends to be those 'crazy peace-loving liberals' that actually work overtime to create a better world, meanwhile ungrateful people like yourself spit on society, wishing everyone who is different would be crushed by the uniform group. Your and Beynch's vision of the world sounds more like the DDR than the DDR itself ever was.
22:53 October 17, 2009 by Craig Goodrich
I note a few voices of reason in this discussion, which, along with the growth of the SD, shows that at least some Swedes have been able to resist the stifling Politically Correct soft totalitarianism of current Swedish public discourse.

When will your society wake up to the obvious fact that Brussels is destroying Europe? It is perfectly possible to have continent-wide free trade without sacrificing democratic control over your social policies, for Heaven's sake! Since when is it "extremist" to maintain some kind of national control over immigration policy?

Look, the Swedish murder rate is now higher than that of the US. Violent crime has skyrocketed, your cities have vast no-go zones for native Swedes, rape is pandemic, and the silly Aftonbladet won't even accept the mildest advertising for the SD. Do you really want to wait until Stockholm becomes the Nordic Chicago?

See http://www.nysun.com/opinion/while-sweden-slept/44831/ ...
23:05 October 17, 2009 by Rebel
The American Indians could not enforce their immigration control and look what happened to them.
15:46 October 18, 2009 by soultraveler3
@ Renfeh Hguh

Comment #1

You said everything perfectly. Bravo!
18:15 October 18, 2009 by Rick Methven
What the supporters of the SD do not realise is that the actual published aims of far-right parties such as the SD, are not their true policy. They are after total dominance. All you guys that are posting here either for or against will never be able to express your views - unless of course you nare one of the chosen elite. Do you think that a country controlled by the SD would ever tolerate a site like The Local????
20:52 October 18, 2009 by tonycobh
Rick Methven - you must be joking. Sweden today is like the old East Germany. You're free to say whayever you want - as long it's consistent with the peecee multiculti fairytale.
20:53 October 18, 2009 by Norum
This is indeed a great news and I do hope that SD get to the Riksdag in 2010.

To those that saying about racist destroying Sweden, xenophobia, nazis, communism and others....this is not about it.

This is not about being racist, but being patriotic. Just look at Malmö - almost 30% of its population is Muslim and there is a risk that, in the very near future, the city will become totally muslim. No Swede would ever want that to happen.

But this problem is not only in Sweden, but all over the Europe. This is what the left wing politicians allow to happen everywhere.

Welcome to Eurabia!
03:09 October 19, 2009 by Hickabilly Deluxe
All I have to say is my swedish father in-law is seeing red over the islamification of his hometown Malmo and is really digging the SD besides the fact his wife is Syrian. You guys do the math. Swedes need a sharp dose of Nationalism, period. Sweden is for the Swedes, and the muslims should bend over backwards to be excepted, not the other way around. That's not racism, it's Sweden. If they want Sharia, send them back to carve a kingdom out of whatever country they came from.
07:02 October 19, 2009 by Tutu
I am a patriotic Swedish and against islamification of sweden. I am not a muslim and will never be. However, i want to know why we are so fixaset about islam. A lady wrote in aftonbladet on Friday that islam is exposing immorality, lack of discipline, laziness, destruction of family values in sweden. Not to talk of Anna Anka revelations. We swedes think we are perfect and the best but these islamic guys are proving us wrong. the Christianity that we hold dear have been polluted by politicians and human rights activicts. When we see these people do what we liberalise we become jealous and want them out of the country. Reality check, that method will not work. det går inte. i think it is high time we go back to our roots. Our actions and hatred is even helping the cause of these people . moreover are going to deport the swedish mother of the girl arrested in pakistan. SWEDEN WAKE UP
07:39 October 19, 2009 by Nemesis
@ tutu,

Christianity started of as violently as islam, actually probably more so. Both should be sent back to the mmiddle east where they can indulge in there hatred of women, child abusing and wathever else they get up to.

Islamic-christian-satanist ideologies started in the middle east as control over the mass's to stupid to think for themselves and should be sent back there.

In Europe we had our own relgeons, such as worshipping Odin, Bagda, Thor, etc. We should be able to think for ourselves, not always rely on the words of some nuitjobs of there heads in the desert.
14:20 October 19, 2009 by Beynch
@Hickabilly Deluxe. A little rough around in the edges in your choice words, but what you say definitely resonates. Thank you for what appears to be a sincere blurb.
14:21 October 19, 2009 by jimmyjames
NOTE : The Israelis allow only Jewish immigrants and no-one cries racist. The Saudis, Iranians, ect. allow only Islamic

immigrants and that is OK, the Japanese do not allow ANY immigrants ( except a handful of Korean "guest worker" and no-one in the Global community says a word. ONLY, Europeans....

in Caucasia are referred to as racists, nazis, bigots, ect. if they attempt to preserve their ethnic identity and their historical heritage. WHY This is the question that needs to be vigoursly investigated. We ( caucasions ) need to find who is behind these double standards. Identify them and remove them from politics and all areas of influence.
15:52 October 19, 2009 by UKLady
It is refreshing to see that the usual cries of "nazi" "racist" "xenophobe" are FEWER than the thought-out, well constructed posts! Well done everyone who has contributed.

Immigration is not a bad thing AS LONG as those heading into a country can contribute in some way to it - take the policies of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, America. You have to have a referee/sponsor, a way of supporting yourself and your family, a job to go to and a home. If you can satisfy their criteria then you are welcomed in to begin a new life there under their rules and regulations, culture etc.

Why is it then, that when people ask for this sort of system here in Europe the cries of "racist" etc. immediately get thrown up at them??

I am Jewish and also have afro-caribbean ancestry yet I would vote for the SD over any other party or coalition available to vote for. Why? Because I am a nazi? Nope. Because I am intolerant of other cultures? - nope. Because I don't think we should help people in need (asylum seekers) nope.

I would vote for them because they are the ONLY party who can see that the current immigration and intergration policies of this country and others (UK for one) is just not working.

We have too many claiming asylum and then moaning about their lot here - calling the race card at every opportunity, stoning our emergency services workers and more besides.

What is so inherently wrong with asking those who settle here to follow our cultural norms and work their butts off to fit in rather than us accommodating their every whim just to make them feel "at home"?

That is a perfectly valid question imo. Diversity within a population is good - differences are good but NOT at the expense of the host countries way of life.
17:18 October 19, 2009 by Beynch
@UKLady. Thank you.
08:16 October 20, 2009 by UKLady
@ Beynch.

No problem. It is just refreshing to have an exchange of viewpoints where those in favour of changing immigration are actually allowed to discuss without being branded the usual.

If they do gain a seat in the next Parliament then the rest of the parties will realise that people are fed up - not everyone, but enough of the population to warrant a change in the system. That can only be to everyones benefit. If immigration and integration were sorted out, then we COULD live more easily amongst one another so long as immigrants were willing (as most European immigrants are) to assimilate into daily life and keep their own cultures and beliefs out of mainstream and for after work, holidays and week-ends.
02:57 October 22, 2009 by Gwrhyr
I wish that people would consider the SD as a whole and not just vote for it to make a point about immigration. Being gay and pagan, my views on Islam itself are similar to SD-voters. But SD also wants to take the right of gay couples to adopt children away. And that scares me. And that helps me understand how the average Muslim immigrant, who does not stone emergency workers, could feel pretty scared about the rhetoric coming out of SD. The average trouble person who stones emergency workers and sets cars on fire are the chidren of immigrants who have spent most, if not all of their lives in Sweden. That points to there being serious problems with integration. I definitely think there are some serious problems with integration in this country. But SD is not bringing very many constructive ideas to the table. My fear is that they will get votes from otherwise intelligent people who want to see integration improve in this country. I don't think the SD can or will accomplish that. Hopefully the major parties will take up the issue of integration in an intelligent manner. But SD's manner is not intelligent, and their rhetoric does inspire fear in regular, law-abiding people in Sweden. Me, for instance, because of their anti-gay stance. And that makes me understand how regular, non-stoning Muslims in Sweden could feel scared as well. I hope that if people are concerned about integration and immigration, they don't just resort to SD because it's their only choice. Unfortunately it seems like that IS their only choice, but it's a pretty poor choice, and that is what makes me fear them gaining entry into the Riksdag. I'm trying to be honest here. People can debate these things intellectually all day long, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there is a difference between promoting a sound immigration and integration policy and the SD's policy and rhetoric which blatantly blankets groups as wrong for Sweden (Muslims and homosexuals). If SD weren't gay, or I weren't gay, I'd possibly consider voting for them too, for the reason that Islam is just as scary to me, being gay, as the SD is. But my situation has caused me to think deeper on it and I hope some of you can think more deeply about the fear that this rhetoric can inspire in regular people who just want to work and get on with life in Sweden.
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