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Fright night for elks in west Sweden

TT/The Local · 31 Oct 2009, 11:43

Published: 31 Oct 2009 11:43 GMT+01:00

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Just north of Kungsbacka, two collisions were reported only 500 metres apart from each other.

Police are at a loss to explain why so many accidents happened in such a short space of time in one evening.

”You often hear that elks tend to move about more at dusk or dawn,” Dan Lewstam, from Halland police said.”

”But this was after five o clock in the evening when it was already dark outside."

No people were reported to have been injured in the accidents.

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However, all six elks died, some due to the impact, while others were later put down by hunters called in by the police.

TT/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

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17:59 October 31, 2009 by uunbeliever
Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose, Moose,

The english word is moose. Please stop calling moose elk, it is really annoying.
18:16 October 31, 2009 by wxman
I agree, but I covered this same ground a year or more ago with The Local. The fact is, the Swedes call moose elk, like it or not, it is what it is. But it does beg the follow-on question, if moose are elk, are elk elk too? Or are they something else?? The mind boggles.
18:19 October 31, 2009 by Draug
"The animal bearing name Alces alces is known in Europe as elk and in North America as moose. " -wikipedia(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose)

That is quite confusing.
19:45 October 31, 2009 by justanotherexpat
uuneliever - I would suspect it's partly also to do with the fact that "moose" is too close to "mus" which is totally the wrong animal for any Swedish readers, plus more than a little confusing in another context ;)
00:36 November 1, 2009 by jag2009
Women called "Fanny" , then a moose being called an elk resulting in confusion, and suddenly we are left with "mus". I can't wait for a stagnight, the lads will have to wear their musmagnet shirts:P
10:25 November 1, 2009 by Rick Methven
"The english word is moose"


The English name IS Elk

The Swedish name is Ålg

The German name is Elch

The Latin name is Alces

The name Elk was in use long before Columbus found America.(Cue for discussion on claims that the Vikings found it first)

England and America, two nations divided by a common language. Not onyl Moose Elk.

How about that very dangerous habit of Americans driving on the pavement where the English walk
10:43 November 1, 2009 by Hamish
Elk.... Moose..Ålg you know what they mean .....
15:40 November 1, 2009 by Scepticion

As others said, the British English word is "Elk".

You present yet another example of Americans (and why is it that US citizens are called Americans, even though they only occupy a small part of America) who want to impose their egocentric (meaning they know little outside of their own country) view on the world. Such attitudes explain why other countries often feel antagonized by the USA.
16:47 November 1, 2009 by staz
So, while we're at it ... anyone want to tell me what a buffalo is? Depends on what side of the planet you live on. (or - what planet you live on?)
17:26 November 1, 2009 by wxman
Hey Rick, the Indians (western) found America.
00:16 November 2, 2009 by justanotherexpat
Oh I just wanted to put on record that there is no such thing as "American English" - there's "English", which is the language I speak/write, and there's "badly-spoken/written English full of short-cuts and errors", which is what (many) people in the USA speak/write......
11:21 November 2, 2009 by Rick Methven

African Buffalo

Domestic Water Buffalo (Bubalus bubalis), widely used for dairy, meat and draught

Wild Water Buffalo (Bubalus arnee), the ancestor of the domestic water buffalo

Dwarf Buffalo or anoa, any of several small species of Bubalus

Buffalo, colloquial American name for American Bison

White buffalo, sporadically occurring white American bison with spiritual significance in several Native American religions
11:23 November 2, 2009 by Mrs Hohmann
Being an ex-American (and having to speak proper English as well as learn other languages) I think it is funny to see the US folks get all worked up over semantics and dialect differences while reading a EUROPEAN News page.

I feel very bad for the Elk and think maybe speed enforcement and reduction must be implemented on the roads that intersect the Elk home grazing area. A speeding Volvo is a deadly weapon and most Elk are quite shy and peaceful.

MOST people do not need to get to a destination 'faster' unless they are driving a First Aid Wagon so slow down a bit and have some respect for all the lives that you share your life with.
11:39 November 2, 2009 by karex
You don't have to be speeding to maim or kill an animal which crosses in front of your car unexpectedly. In fact, during defensive driving courses one can quickly realize that while driving as slowly as 50km/h it is extremely difficult to stop in time to avoid many collisions.

Besides, driving at this low speed on an interstate (100/110 Km/hr limit) is dangerous to other motorists as well.

High fences around highways is the best course. However, in some places they can cut natural animal crossings. Some kind of safe compromise needs to be reached.
12:00 November 2, 2009 by Mrs Hohmann
I have seen grazing over passes that look like tunnels with trees and shrubs on top driving the German autobahn to Switzerland. It could work for the more populated Elk areas.
15:08 November 2, 2009 by taki 183

You present yet another example of Americans (and why is it that US citizens are called Americans, even though they only occupy a small part of America) who want to impose their egocentric...view on the world.


It is yet another example of Europeans imposing their views on the world. The British referred to their colonies in North America as the American colonies and the residences there as Americans. The name remains in use for more than two centuries.
15:09 November 2, 2009 by karex
Sounds like a great idea!
18:43 November 2, 2009 by Blazing Saddles
The Swedish word for Elk is Älg and for Moose it is Ålg. Can someone verify this? Weird.
18:50 November 2, 2009 by BWake
The Brits who got off the boat in N. America were city folk. Their confusion is understandable, if inconvenient for us.

By the way, in the North America we also have this cow sized deer that some of the natives call "Wapiti". That's the animal we call "Elk".

Bob in Texas
23:54 November 2, 2009 by Vikingbill
Just curious? If Swedes call that an "elk"? What do you call an elk?
19:46 November 3, 2009 by flrlocal
I disagree that Elk is the proper English word. The British Isles have neither moose nor North American/Asian elk. The word moose was borrowed from an Indian (native American) language and reported in writings by likes of Captain John Smith (a Briton) in the early 1600s. If the British at the time had an established word for the animal then they would not have adopted the Indian name.

Thus, moose is the proper English word for the animal. I think we need to defer to the North Americans for this world since the animal exists in that part of the world. If the British borrowed the word from German, for example, it must have happened later or at least not in common usage in 1600. So this is the reverse of the more common case where the "new world" comes up with a new name for something that was established in England. The North Americans have precedence this case. There is no Academy for the English language, so the fact that there was no common usage of the word elk in England in 1600 is the critical factor.

It is preferable that we purged the word elk from the English language. The large deer species called elk in North America may have been named so by non-English settlers. (For example, Swedes or Germans.) Just a theory. We are better off adopting the Indian (native American) name for this animal as well.
20:36 November 3, 2009 by BWake
If the English settlers in the New World had been familiar with the Ålg they might have called the North American Moose an "Elk". They weren't so they didn't.

Besides, all those posters and bumper stickers saying "The Moose is Loose in Sweden" would lose their punch. "The Elk is Loose in Sweden" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
16:46 November 4, 2009 by Åskar
Swedish teachers can teach whatever variant of the English language as long as they are consistent. Most of them have been taught British English where Alces alces is called elk, not American English. This is in Sweden, thus elk should be the preferred word.

And now for something completely different. I am merely speculating here but I don't think it is too far off the mark if I claim that the first English speakers that ventured into the woods in North America and encountered a big deer thought it was the same animal as the elk that they had heard about, but never seen themselves. When they later met a real elk the word was already in use for the wapiti (which, as it happens, is a close relative to red deer), so they had to settle for the local Indian word when giving it a name.
11:20 November 5, 2009 by uunbeliever
More stupiness. The Elk or wapiti is not a moose, look at the bloody picture in Wikipedia. A moose is a moose, an elk is an elk and a cariboo is a cariboo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elk - this is an elk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose - this is a moose

I digress, as you do not have real elks in Sweden you call the moose an elk. Freaky deaky swedes. From now on I will call my cat a dog.
15:17 November 5, 2009 by Åskar
Whoever claimed that the wapiti is a moose?

An elk is a wapiti, a moose is an elk and "The Cariboo is an intermontane region of British Columbia" (according to Wikipedia). A caribou, on the other hand, is a reindeer.
23:19 November 5, 2009 by uunbeliever
Thank for pointing out the typo. I know where the Cariboo is, I lived in the Okanagan, its close.

And to scepticon, don't call me an American, If I was an american I would have invaded your country for the Elk farm trade by now.

I am , in fact, born British, raised Canadian. Don't go throwing the "assume" word around.
16:51 November 9, 2009 by BWake
And the ambiguity is in the box.
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