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Immigrants a risk factor on housing group form

Charlotte West · 22 Dec 2009, 11:50

Published: 22 Dec 2009 11:50 GMT+01:00

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Members of local tenant associations were outraged. “What exactly was the thinking behind this?” asked Christina Gyland, chairman of a housing association in Lund, adding that it bordered on being racist.

Katarina Burle, head of communication at HSB Skåne, told Sydsvenskan that the immigrant criteria was poorly formulated and was in the process of being removed from the form.

Burle said that it was initially used in housing areas with significant immigrant populations and was primarily intended to flag properties that would need information posted in multiple languages.

The risk assessment form originally came from Fastigo, the employer organisation of the real estate industry.

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Fastigo head lawyer Jonas Stålnacke told the newspaper that while he understood how the immigrant criteria could be misunderstood, “it is not the case that we consider immigrants to be a risk factor in the working environment.”

Charlotte West (news@thelocal.se)

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13:00 December 22, 2009 by fridayz
Disgusting...rude ...shameful
13:14 December 22, 2009 by Beynch
Sad, but not surprising. It bears evidence of lacking integration efforts on part of Swedish authorities. It is not evidence of "racism" as some would have it. The reality is that many arrivals from third world countries have not been provided the necessary reference points to live in a civilized, western, society. The concepts of noise, and what we would consider `dirt`, and `taste` have rarely been instilled in these new arrivals. Hence the integratiion policies, or lack thereof, of the Social Democrats have been one huge, embarrasing, failure, to the detriment and ghettoization of Swedish society. Sweden does need immigration to sustain her future, but to open the gates and throw them in a subsidized HSB housing project, and hope for the best, does not cut it. Much greater effort is needed, if this inward stream of arrivals is to successfully continue. Think of this when you go to the polls next year.
14:19 December 22, 2009 by stoffer
@Beynch - I think that you are only partially correct. There are different immigrants and different Swedes. There are antisocial people and criminal both among Swedes and among immigrants. Certainly, more attention should be payed to who is let int the country - but this shall not be on basis of nationality or race.

We shall not make distinction between people on the basis of where they come from, but on the basis of who they are.

We should not say "we do not immigrants". We should say "we do not want antisocial and criminal elements". We have to be aware, that not all Muslims are antisocial religious fundamentalists, and at the same time not all Germans are hard working good citizens. I have met hardworking good Muslim citizens and antisocial Germans, and vice versa. We must never judge the person on the basis of nationality, religion or race. We must judge a person on the basis of his life and achievements.

If your only achievement is sucking social money and making undereducated children - then you should get the hell out this country, regardless of your religion, race or nationality.

If you are a good citizen, contributing to the development of the society - you should be rewarded, regardless of your religion, race or nationality.

Now it's time for the other part - the Swedes. Swedes and Swedish authorities very often fail to separate merits and race ethnicity. We are coming to the bizarre situation when the left says that immigrants are OK and anyone who says anything wrong about immigrants is a Nazi, and on the other hand, the growing nationalists saying that all immigrants are bad, criminal, anti-social, social-help-sucking individuals. Obviously, NONE IS TRUE. This is the point, where I think that both left and right side of political scene is made of the same kind of morons, only dressed in different team colors.
14:19 December 22, 2009 by locaxy
Tsss...this is just shameful.

And this is just the beginning.
16:15 December 22, 2009 by MIK in Sweden
See this


At one side we are saying shortage of workforce and need of immigrants. on the side immigrants are risk for lot of things.

we should be clear, what we want.
16:47 December 22, 2009 by just a question
They don't know what they want. Sweden is trapped between the old pure immovable socialdemocracy, and the changes of the Capitalism, between the Socialist political correctness and what they really think about the immigrants. They want to be modern but they are extremely old. They are bipolar.

It doesn't matter. Whatever they do, it won't work. It's too late.
17:44 December 22, 2009 by stoffer
@MIK in Sweden - immigrants are needed, but that does not need that any immigrants are needed. In general, it is not correct to say that immigrants are needed. It is however correct to say, that qualified and willing to to work immigrants are needed in Sweden. Immigrants coming here just to live off the social grants contribute NOTHING to this country.

Disclaimer: I am an expat. All in all, expat is just another word for immigrant, but it does not carry any controversy.
17:48 December 22, 2009 by bolababu
The only difference between an average Swede and Hitler is lack of guts on the Swedish part, or how do you explain fake smiles in the bus or centrum and deep-rooted hatred in the heart? ..at least Hitler had the guts to show his hatred.
19:34 December 22, 2009 by hermitcrabred
I would not mind moving to Sweden and becoming part of their society, learn their language and be under their flag, I hope people don`t just rush to generalize and bring judgement in every single immigrant. My intentions are noble and I`m willing to do whatever it takes, I want to work and earn my own living but, of course, the Swedish people would have to givea least a chance and opportunity.
20:10 December 22, 2009 by diegoveggie
'I hope people don`t just rush to generalize and bring judgement in every single immigrant'

it's not every single immigrant. just the brown ones.
23:06 December 22, 2009 by laura ka baal
@bolababu i am with you this world laurakabaal is for them only.
23:30 December 22, 2009 by determined
@diegoveggie... "just the brown ones"??? would you explain more ?
02:47 December 23, 2009 by double concerto
Poor personal hygiene and spitting habits do not win hearts and minds, and unfortunately a lot of immigrants do display these features, resulting in a lot of turned up noses, if you'll excuse the pun!!!
03:24 December 23, 2009 by Davey-jo
No blacks; no Irish ....These were signs on accommodation in the UK forty years ago. I'm no fan of UK legislation but this overt racist behaviour is at least behind us. I'm not saying racism is dead: I'm saying that little property owners cannot discriminate in this way. And it does them no good to discriminate like this. Who are their market? Who rents property? Poor but desperate; usually hard working and determined to get ahead people. They pay their rent; they save; they move on. Any landlord would want tenants like this. No?
03:42 December 23, 2009 by hermitcrabred
...I agree in the statements of double concerto, we have an issue here too in America, a bunch of people with poor hygiene and no interest whatsoever to learn the language and integrate into society, I for one as an American Citizen I`m tired of paying with my taxes for these people, when I went to America and believe it was not easy in the beginning, I learned the language, the government and the culture and I always worked for my own money but now we have these leaches, and they just don`t care to be an American, so I understand why many people is upset on the matter.
04:32 December 23, 2009 by dsc
@bolababu #8

No truer words have been spoken on The Local!
06:54 December 23, 2009 by thelionking

I blame "Care in Community" , too many lunatics in society. Dont hold your breath for diegoveggie.What a total cockroach!!

The lights been flicked on, so it done the one thing its type do. Done a runner.

Dont even waste your breath with idiots who at best articulate themselves by random mystery outbursts.

Same type that "publish" their thoughts in public toilets frankly. Genius type....
06:58 December 23, 2009 by sleeplesssweden
@bolababu #8

This is the truest word i have ever hear in the local Bolababu.Some of these swedes dont even realise thier stupidity.One moment, you can see sadness and misery written all over thier faces and the moment they sees you,a smile is forcefully switched on automatically like a robot..Only losers and suckers fall for that crap lol
07:22 December 23, 2009 by dsc

They are pretentious cowards. And it knows no limits. I mean even installing Sabuni to dupe the simple minded. Glad I can meet people here who can see through the rotteness.
07:50 December 23, 2009 by DreEstwd
@sleeplessweden and dsc-

You know what? They are actually pretty nice people if you don't come to their country and AREN'T OVERREPRESENTING YOURSELF BY 1600% in the VIOLENT CRIME, RAPE and ROBBERY categories!! It kinda probably pisses some people off that they are paying for criminals to live in their country for free and they have seen crime rise by 900% since they started doing that.

I also think some might be a little bitter that their country is now known as having the most rapes in Europe. Coincidentally, that is also when they started taking in their Middle Eastern friends. Not hard to understand why they might be just a tad biased sometimes.
08:51 December 23, 2009 by sleeplesssweden

What a sick man you must be DreEstwd...I pity you .Where did you gather your data and polls from..probably while masturbating and living in your dream world....Wake up and face reality..The truth is bitter they say

Grow up and deal with reality as a man you loser
08:54 December 23, 2009 by dsc
@ DreEstwd

I agree with you 100% that SOME immigrants are just trouble. They are lazy, uneducated, poor, etc. Unlike you, they add nothing to Sweden's economy. They just take away. And they are not the right color (check comments above).SOME.

So now let's take your reasoning to its logical conclustion, now that that's out of way.

So there you are. You have all the reasons to be pissed off. Swedes, unlike the rest of the peoples of the world, are justified to be racist. Its OK for white Swedes to make jokes about non-Aryan immigrants in Sweden. You know, the "brown" people. Those with funny looking noses. Its all OK cause they all guilty of robbing and raping and they don't pay any taxes.

Now, since ALL these people are bad and are not really in need of help, what is the ultimate solution instead of the plastic smiles? Apartheid, for those already in the country and clear rule that Sweden will only accept blue-eyed, violent free Aryans as immigrants. Tell the entire world. And while at it, please remove that shame Minister, Sabuni.

That MR DreEstwd is what you're telling me. Right? I hope you will have the guts to answer this question so we put it to rest - at least between you and me.
09:08 December 23, 2009 by sleeplesssweden
A coward lives up to its true nature..poor Mr DreEstwd can no longer defend himself..ughhhh..probably finished high school and thinks that his little brain that controls his visual state can also control the realities of life..with his own polls and statistics...hehehehe
09:31 December 23, 2009 by insect
About the spitting

I get really confused when I read comments about Somalis and spitting. Yes I know it is in their nature to spit. But nobody seems to notice that the Swedes (those who take Snus) spit more.

In my three years in Sweden, I have never seen a single somali spitting, but for the Swedes, it is like a competition on who will spit the fartherst. And to make matters worse, it is not just spit...... It is spittle. When standing at the bus stop, and one hears this throat gurgling/grating sound, it is time to take cover because it is sure as hell coming in droves and might land on your shoes. And this applies to men women and teenagers.

But then again, I live in a very small town, maybe they are allowed.
09:59 December 23, 2009 by rumcajs

"rarely been instilled in these new arrivals". That's NOT true. I've lived in quite a lot of places in Europe and Sweden is the best one or lest bad one in that.

I know a lot of political refugees in UK, France, Spain, Switzerland and CZ; and SE is the one that tries the hardest to integrate these people.

Leave the politics out of this one mate.
10:33 December 23, 2009 by dsc


I never thought anyone would agree with me! I though I just biased or something! I totally agree with you, mate. I have never seen a people that spit as much. And anywhere for that matter. Kinda disgusting. But like you point out, its in other cultures too. Just didn't think i would find here.

But hey, they are supposed to be the very pinacle of evolution, right? So there must be something wrong with our eyes, mate. Wonder what Hitler would have thought. Anyway, would have pardoned them for this littile imperfection they would more than made up for it by stealing the Auschwitz thing. . .
10:59 December 23, 2009 by insect

agree with you 100%
11:16 December 23, 2009 by soultraveler3
Lol, I'm yet another who has never seen a somali spit but am grossed out all the time by Swedes doing it.

There are so many snus packets and cigarette butts on the street here that sometimes it's hard to walk without stepping on one. You always here people talking about how clean Sweden is, but between the snus and graffitti, that hasn't been my experience.

Maybe in the bigger cites they're better about keeping it nice. More money to spend on that kind of thing.

Back to topic, I think Beynch's comment #2 is right on the mark.

Sweden does need immigrants but they need a much better system to get everyone intergrated.

They can't just throw thousands of refugees from a completly different culture together in neighborhoods, give them free money, housing, education by their standards and free healthcare and expect that they would willingly intergrate into society.

Lack of a working integration program and isolation for a group of people in a forgien land will only lead to mistrust and prejudice between the immigrant population and the nationals.

They also need to narrow the floodgate down to a trickle and only let in educated immigrants who want to and will contribute something to Swedish society. They have more than enough refugees.
11:33 December 23, 2009 by Rebel
Oh but now that they have become aware of it they will remove it. Geeeez, this passive agressive climate of niceness on one hand and hatred on the other is really making me sick.
13:11 December 23, 2009 by travels
You see people in need (refugees) and invite them to live in your house (Sweden/Europe). You are naive and think that many of them will be different than what they really are; you think that all humans want the same things and think the same way. Many of your guests come to your house and want to make it their own way and as reality goes they even have more kids than you and the kids turn out very much like their parents. Eventually you, the owner of the house, realize that probably you expected things to go a little different and may even feel a little dissatisfied with the turn of events and by now your new house partners (no longer guests) dislike you and resent you. Naivete, political correctness, incorrect assumptions and expectations from all sides.
13:49 December 23, 2009 by bjinger
Swedes are proud of their achievements either in hardware or solfware....but that's exactly the disadvantage they are bearing.People need to learn how to live co-existence.A society without love and understanding is too dangerous to itself and the external world, that's what I worry about.
17:40 December 23, 2009 by .viking.warrior.
You can use your Marxist political hate label of "racist" as much as you like, the simple fact is that people are entitled to feel how they feel, think how they think and be who they are in their own country.

If this includes the heresy against Marxism that they prefer to be amongst their own in their own country then so be it. There is nothing wrong or evil in that. It is perfectly natural and all the oppressive Marxist so-called "anti-racism" legislation will do anger people further.

This idiotic notion that everyone MUST play along with the balkanisation of every European country and the financing of their own dispossession or be charged as a hate filled Nazi is losing its edge day by day.
19:38 December 23, 2009 by DreEstwd

you said-
21:24 December 23, 2009 by dsc
There is a simple solution for Sweden: Breed.

You won't the immigrants then. Tell the ladies its time to have babies and not pet dogs.

Plan B would be to adopt the grand advice from VIKING WARRIOR.

Declare that Sweden is for white europeans only. Purge the place of the existing non-white immigrants. See HItler's manuals for details. And please understand that that does NOT mean you are being a NAZI. You are just exercising your sovereign right as a country to have the sort of people that you want. And what's more you are preserving your national identity and culture. But since left to yourselves you will still die out, you would stilll need to start breeding all the same. Outlaw pet dogs.

See, simple isn't it?
22:00 December 23, 2009 by .viking.warrior.

You are just another in long line of dishonest Marxist muppets on this site.

I didn't actually "Declare that Sweden is for white europeans only" - you did. You made that up all on your own and assigned it to me, in true proper dishonest lefty style.

I actually said "people are entitled to feel how they feel, think how they think and be who they are in their own country…If this includes the heresy against Marxism that they prefer to be amongst their own in their own country then so be it. There is nothing wrong or evil in that"

Why is it that people like you cannot make any sort of comment on immigration without lying? Surely your cause is so righteous and just you don't have to resort to lying every time?!
22:16 December 23, 2009 by dsc

Sorry didn't mean to shove anything that is unpalatable even to you. Just thought you needed someone to be courageous on your behalf.

OK. I am now humbly at your feet willing to learn. What is to "prefer to be amongst their own in their own country "? How do go about doing that? Practically.
22:39 December 23, 2009 by .viking.warrior.

Dishonest, disingenuous, distasteful and disturbed.

You really do tick all of the proper dishonest lefty boxes.

Tell us some more lies...
22:46 December 23, 2009 by dsc

Answer to my question? At least try to answer. Remember, I have stopped arguing and want to be instructed by you, Oh Great Viking of Boundless Intellect.
23:06 December 23, 2009 by DreEstwd
DSC= Definitely a Muslim. You can tell by the ingratitude.
23:27 December 23, 2009 by dsc

You too owe me an answer. So funny how you disappeared only to re-appear with a brand spanking new line. LOL.

Am not Muslim and don't bring religion into this. Its dangerous.

Having courage issues too?
23:40 December 23, 2009 by .viking.warrior.
After the lies and the exposure of the lies of the proper dishonest lefty always comes the pathetic child like attempts at sarcasm. You people really are just a nasty shell.

Are you really such a brainwashed Marxist drone that you don't understand how people are entitled to feel how they feel, think how they think and be who they are in their own country?

And how they are entitled to be amongst their own in their own country if they want to? You put that sentence in question marks so I think you are having difficulty with this very simple statement! Do you really not understand what it means? Or how easy it is to achieve?

Are you really going to say it is wrong and indeed evil that many Swedes just might want to be around only Swedes in Sweden? That if they wanted to be around Somalis, Iraqis and the rest that they just might have moved there?

But then who would move there? These people cannot sustain a civilised society amongst them. Just as a house is made from its bricks, a country is made up from its people.

Here are a few reasons Swedes (and all other Europeans) might just want to be amongst their own:

In Denmark non-whites committed 68% of all rapes, and it was revealed that non-whites were over-represented in all crime by an average of 46% and in Copenhagen 47.5% of prisoners on remand for serious crimes were non-white. In Norway it was found that two out of three charged with rape in Oslo were non-white and that every case of aggravated sexual assault ending in rape over the past three years was committed by non-white immigrants, whilst in Sweden it as found that a rapist was four times more likely to have been born abroad - with Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominating the group of rape suspects and that non-whites were responsible for 25% of all crime in Sweden A survey in Australia found that in Melbourne magistrate's courts, offenders from the horn of Africa and the Middle East were 20 times the representative proportion of their population…
23:47 December 23, 2009 by travels

On the subject of asking questions, one comes to mind...

Ok, so you are not muslim, but are you a resentful immigrant (I say that because you sound very resentful), son of immigrants or a born Swede from many generations of Swedes??
00:34 December 24, 2009 by dsc

None of the above! Do I need to be one of those? Is it some kind of condition or are you just trying figure me out ?

Am just a visitor passing through, dude. Now, let me see, RESENTMENT is a feeling of deep and bitter anger and ill-will. Hmm, nah. But then, may I am. Who knows. . .

@ viking.warrior.

Nice stats. Again, I agree with you, dude. These people from Somali and the Middle East are not good. Now what I want from you is HOW you are going to get rid of these RAPING pests that are already among you? And then HOW to ensure that they don't come in anymore. You must have thought of a METHOD, a system that can apply to Sweden and then may be export to the rest of Europe.

The only recent historical references I have are the Boers Apartheid System in South Africa and Hitler's Campaign. But those are kind of infamous and HELL NO, YOU ARE NOT like those people. So that means you must have some nice million krona solution. Am sitting here waiting to about this FINAL SOLUTION.
03:20 December 24, 2009 by travels

Thank you for answering my question. Perhaps you can answer one more.

Is there anything positive that you see in Sweden and Swedes, any merits to the country and its people at all?
04:38 December 24, 2009 by .viking.warrior.
Why is it lying fools like you always type away in capitals as if this some how lends some authority or authenticity to your absurd statements?

The situation vis-à-vis the above statistics is the same whosesoever the non-white immigrants accrue just around 5% of the population and gets steadily worse with each increment.

The solution is simple, common sense and the duty of any genuine government representing its country and its people: End immigration from these places that we know will result in an explosion of crime and the breakdown of social cohesion and deport the ones that the Marxists have imported wholesale into Europe without any mandate whatsoever from the people.

More statistics for you, this time from the UK:

In the UK it was leaked that 73% of those charged with knife crime were non-white (whist the white victims made up the largest group) Over 70 per cent of London's gun suspects were black, as were 50 per cent of the victims white. In 80% of gang rape cases, the defendants were black; in 92% of gang rape cases the offenders are non-white. There are five times more young blacks in prison then whites.
05:37 December 24, 2009 by DreEstwd
Nice posts, Viking Warrior. Also, a good dose of statistics to show proper evidence of Sweden's biggest problem. I challenge this obviously overmatched fool, DSC, to show us some numbers and statistics supporting his claims. I would put an entire year's salary on him NOT being able to provide any. He's already said that he's not a Muslim, not a Swede, not an immigrant of any kind, so basically he is admitting that he doesn't know a damn thing about the situation.

DSC, have you ever been to Sweden? Seen these little bastards throwing rocks at the ambulances or police? Anything? Or are you just talking out of your a$$? Cuz that is what it sounds like.

As far as my solution....I would halt immigraion from Muslim countries. I would expand immigration from S. America, N. America and the Far East. Those people are non-violent and integrate well And if you think that is a racist way to look at things then go ahead and argue with the country of Denmark as well because they are doing exactly what I just suggested. In fact, I would let in Muslim women and men over the age of 60, that is it. The women are far more intelligent and well-behaved than the men and old men aren't going to cause crime.

Nice solution by yourself, DSC. "Breed." LOL. Yeah, that's it. Have 5 kids instead of 2 so that you end up broke and living in some place like Rinkeby instead of somewhere decent. lol,what a tool.
08:02 December 24, 2009 by dsc
@ travels -??? You're boring me.

@DreEstwd - You are an empty coward who didn't have anything to say a while ago and now you happily paroting Viking Warriors words. I think you should just keep quiet.


Now we are talking. You actually used the word "non-white". Good to see you are getting confortable with these terms.No more claims about me shoving that term in your mouth. And I really hope that is the last time you're spewing those stats at me. How many times am I going to tell you what I think about them? Anyway, the main points of your Final Solution:

1.End immigration of non-whites.

2.Deport all non-whites currently in Sweden and the rest of Europe.

Some more points garnered from your seminal ideas and observations:

(i) the current leadership of the whole of Europe is foolish (they lack common sense).

(ii) the whole of Europe is ruled by these foolish Marxist despots and the people are . . .what's the word for people who can't speak for themselves? cowards?

You know, you are really brilliant, dude. These are Nobel Peace Prize worthy ideas. And they are workable too. And practical.

Now am done picking your brain. Wish you all the best.
13:58 December 24, 2009 by Beynch
Hmmm. DreEstwd's and viking.warrior's, comments both appear to have something to say in this case, although I do not agree with everything. Some of the rest of you are able to mimic nothing more than what the social democrats have brainwashed you with. In other words, your commentary have almost simian qualities, evidencing inferior cognitive abilities. Your only achievement is to parrot socialist/liberal invective. - To all you decent readers of this column, Merry Christmas! To the rest of you, including Katarina Burle, Jonas Stålnacke and Christina Gyland pick your Holiday. ("Happy Winter Solstice" perthaps?)
16:30 December 24, 2009 by .viking.warrior.

As fully expected, just more empty hysterical gibberish from you with your pathetic references to 'the final solution' as all good Marxist drones desperately link people that tell the truth about immigration to Nazism.

As I have said, I couldn't care less about your idiotic hate labels, they are there to do nothing other then intimidate and oppress people and screamed out by mindless fanatics so often they have totally lost their effect on the ordinary person.

The real facts about non-white immigration are above in all their depressing detail.

Whilst I have facts, you, of course just have your empty hate rhetoric from your failed and murderous ideology and have followed the standard self-appointed PC Commissar tactic of lying, hysteria, smears, sarcasm and hate labelling in lieu of substance.

Here are a couple more parallels for you:

"Radical Muslims in France's housing estates are waging an undeclared "intifada" against the police, with violent clashes injuring an average of 14 officers each day.

As the interior ministry said that nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union declared that its members were "in a state of civil war" with Muslims in the most depressed "banlieue" estates which are heavily populated by unemployed youths of north African origin.

It said the situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are becoming no-go zones.

The number of attacks has risen by a third in two years. Police representatives told the newspaper Le Figaro that the "taboo" of attacking officers on patrol has been broken.

Instead, officers - especially those patrolling in pairs or small groups - faced attacks as soon as they tried to arrest locals."


"Firemen in Rosengård are forced to acquire helmets

"One has to weigh the risk of a fire spreading to the risks for our personnel"

Rosengård firemen are forced to wear helmets with visors and borrow military bullet-proof vests. "We have reinforced our cars, but they have suffered substantial damage anyway."

"Every day we have an alarm from Rosengård, and we never know what will happen. We want the police in place beforehand. If there's no risk of the fire spreading, we often don't go there at all…"

"Many fires are set just to get us there. Firemen from Jägersro fire station are now equipped with special helmets that protect the face and neck. Last winter, when it was the worst, we were forced to borrow bullet-proof vests from the military."

One senior colleague has quit the force, as he did not feel he could guarantee his men's safety. Several others have asked to be transferred to service elsewhere."

19:36 December 24, 2009 by xykat
About 6 years ago I tried to buy a house from the Swedish forest agency. This was a gård in Rimbo. Handlesbanken was going to give me the loan. The house was only 400,000 kronor.

I shook the guys hand and said I would buy it. I told him I just had to go to the bank for the paperwork and he said he would have to go back and talk with his boss.

He came back and said they have decided to sell it to someone else. They never gave me a chance to outbid the other guy and then to add insult to insult they asked me if I even had the right to buy land in Sweden.

I am really angry about this. I do feel like I was discriminated against as a foreigner. At that point in time I had already lived in Sweden for 5 years, had a full time and permanent job. I feel I was wronged and lost the chance to buy the gård. Not fair! The Swedish Forest Company SUCKS!!!
21:29 December 24, 2009 by laura ka baal
@viking warriors(unwanted hair),gone r those days ,now u will find non whites every were,u have to live with them sweden cant survive without them,its too late this you should have thought long time back,,so u have to die everyday,every hour every minute,every second ,every fraction of a second u will die,and in coming 10years you will be Alice In Wonderland so stay tight,and tighten your loose organs.
22:32 December 24, 2009 by .viking.warrior.
laura ka baal,

Thanks for your semi-literate gibberish rant perfectly illustrating the 'benefits' of diversity.

Some more of the wonderful benefits:

"Alarmed at last week's police statistics, which revealed that in 68% of all rapes committed this year the perpetrator was from an ethnic minority, leading Muslim organisations have now formed an alliance to fight the ever-growing problem of young second and third-generation immigrants involved in rape cases against young Danish girls."


"Immigrants behind most cases of aggravated sexual assault

The Oslo Police have over the past three years investigated 41 cases of aggravated sexual assault, which resulted in rape. All of them were carried out by non-western immigrants to Norway.

The police now urge that more efforts be put into preventive measures among men with immigrant background.

The police have investigated all reported cases of aggravated sexual assault over the past three years, and have gained a clear impression of the offenders:

Most of the rapists have a Kurdish or African background, NRK reports. The cases of aggravated sexual assaults all have one thing in common, namely the use of gross violence."

00:10 December 25, 2009 by dsc

Speak plainly. No need to put everything in such complicated terms. And the stats!

There are some parallels between your call for the purging of Europe from all non-whites to Hitler's campaign to get rid of all non-Aryans from Europe. Its foolish to deny it. Its wiser to admit it and point out the differences. Hitler had no real reason to do it (it seems), but you have all the right ones. And if this brilliant plan of yours is to succeed, you need to understand why Hitler's (a man far better at this business than you) campaign falied. Furthermore, half measures won't do. You have to make sure all non-whites without exception are purged from Sweden first. This will serve as a model for all the world to see and then the rest of Europe will be next. So you need to prepare and there is so much you need to do. There are cases like non-whites who are already holding Swedish passports, how to deal with them? If you allow them to stay, then they'll breed and get you back to square one. Then there is also mixed race cases (like Elin's children). Some marriages will need to be annulled. Then you also need to put up laws for those who will shelter (hide) non-whites. These must be severely punished.

These are just a sample of administrative issues you will need to take care of. But since the Swedish people are already on your side (they loathe non-whites), it won't be a problem to take control of government and quickly start the legislative process. I also recomment you immediately hold a conference to plan how to deal with these masses of non-whites. There will be need to setup temporal "shelters" once they are rounded up and extracted. Then transportation will also need to be planned for. I recommend trains. And then ships. Its cheaper. And those who refuse to move, shoot them or find some other more convenient way of "disposing" of them.
00:43 December 25, 2009 by .viking.warrior.

You wasted your time completely, as soon as I saw your idiotic mindless self-appointed PC drone training taking the truth and common sense and pushing it straight back to Hitler, Nazis and murder I stopped reading it.

After being caught out as liar and trying your hand at failed sarcasm you have stooped to the lowest depths but frequent tactic of comparing anyone who speaks the truth and uses facts to support that truth to Hitler and the Nazis; why Marxist fools like you do this is obvious but the sheer hypocrisy is breathtaking given that you and your totally failed ideology have proved to have been the biggest mass murderers in human history, including the biggest single holocaust in history ten years before the Shoa, totalling well over 120,000,000 innocent people brutally murdered for your agenda.

And you are at it again all across Europe.

By the way, there is nothing complicated about my comments, it is just that you are not very intelligent and the stats you hate so much prove what a load of crap it is you are selling and that you have absolutely none to back up your case; just empty hate fantasy.

Some more benefits of diversity:

"Two out of three charged with rape in Norway's capital are immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study. The number of rape cases is also rising steadily...

The study is the first where the crime statistics have been analyzed according to ethnic origin.

Of the 111 charged with rape in Oslo last year, 72 were of non-western ethnic origin, 25 are classified as Norwegian or western and 14 are listed as unknown...

Rape charges in the capital are spiraling upwards, 40 percent higher from 1999 to 2000 and up 13 percent so far this year."


"a 1998 Justice Ministry survey on crime, which found that immigrants were over-represented by an average of 46 per cent. In addition, the recent publication of a report from the Copenhagen police shows that 47.5 per cent of prisoners on remand for serious crimes such as murder, attempted murder and rape come from immigrant backgrounds."

00:57 December 25, 2009 by DreEstwd

Still waiting for some actual proof from your end. Are you going to continue with these exaggerated allusions to "Nazis" in order to avoid having to defend your arguments? Or are you actually going to defend one of your assertions with evidence such as statistics? Would love to see you try the latter.
01:13 December 25, 2009 by dsc
@DreEstwd - the little scared weezel. shut up! Always coming up after big brother VW speaks. Shame on you!

@ .viking.warrior.

Am giving you realistic advice for free and you are scared to read them? You will only have yourself to blame if this plan of yours just perishes with you.

As for the stats, well, knock yourself out! Its your time and energy. You're probably snowed in and don't have anything better to do, anyway.

My prediction is that you will have more and more of those reports from all over Europe and all you're doing is whine about it here. Every day. Every hour. Pulling your hair. Don't you see that you are not achieving anything? Meanwhile, your real enemies - the non-whites - are pouring in by the hour.
05:06 December 25, 2009 by DreEstwd
Ok, so I think we can put this one to bed. Dsc is obviously running on fumes now since he is now not even trying to refute arguments, completely ignoring proven facts and resorting to name-calling. All lefties seem to go out this way. Pretty funny yet very telling. Common Sense- 1 Dsc- 0 Good night now.
05:17 December 25, 2009 by .viking.warrior.
Yip, the muppet 'dsc' has fully exposed himself as the empty substanceless vessel all such Marxist creatures are.

They are the original snake oil salesmen with only vicious threats and smears to back up the duds they sell.

Ranting as a hate filled lunatic - reverting to type - is the final stage of the self-appointed PC commissar's process after lying, smearing, childish attempts at mockery and inane fantasises of Hitler and Nazis.

It is all very tedious and see through and is becoming more so to the general populace day after day.

Here are some more benefits of diversity to enlighten the wise, and enrage the fools:

"According to a new study from the Crime Prevention Council, Brå, it is four times more likely that a known rapist is born abroad, compared to persons born in Sweden. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects."


"PEOPLE born overseas committed one in seven of crimes in Victoria last financial year, including a quarter of rapes and one in five murders.

Exclusive police statistics also show immigrants were behind a quarter of robberies, a fifth of sex assaults, abductions and kidnappings, and 3792 assaults."

06:19 December 25, 2009 by dsc
@ .viking.warrior.

You aim is clear enough - to raise hatred for non-whites - but your methods are weak. You post report after report trying to show that some races - non-whites of course - are responsible the for greater share of crimes committed in white Europe. Your aim is based on raising hatred for these races. And yet you refuse to be called racist. A Nazi. That is childish. My aim, which i think i have achieved to some extent - is simply to prove that the average Swede is a racist coward like you. I had rather that - after proving that the is clear link between crime and these inferior races - you would without any shame whatsoever proceed to say you are for that reason a racist and you love Nazi principles that sough to maintain to the purity of the Aryan race. If only would stop pretending. . .
07:29 December 25, 2009 by alex t
"PEOPLE born overseas committed one in seven of crimes in Victoria last financial year, including a quarter of rapes and one in five murders.

An interesting stat to use as it can read for every 7 crimes committed in victoria 6 where committed by australians and 1 by people born overseas, three quarters of rape are committed by australians and 4 out of 5 murders are committed by australians as well.

Be careful with how you use statistics they can be used to weaken arguments when your hoping to strengthen them.
07:53 December 25, 2009 by DreEstwd
Alex, of the total population in Australia, what percentage of that consists of people born outside of Australia? Do you see where this is going? Not trying to provoke, just trying to help you out with the point of the statistic.
08:56 December 25, 2009 by alex t
Not really as the article was referring to a specific place in australia, where 26% of the population was born overseas, not every city, town or village will have a similar uptake of migrants. The article has got flaws in it and is written in a way that makes the reader assume that all the quotes are related to the earlier quotes on immigration.

Nobody has a problem with the swedish trying to keep hold of your culture and history, thats what attracts people to your country and it will never be lost no matter who lives there.

But Xenophobia has no place in the Swedish society. Just like muslimophobia just because you dont understand or know them it doesnt make them a threat. Yes what happened to the twin towers was bad and an extremist who quite clearly doesnt like the US was at play but before that, the largest terrorist act in US was done by Timothy Mcveigh an ex Gulf war vet. Does that then we mean we can marginalise and be suspicious of all soldiers in the country Just in case!

People in general can only integrate into a society where they feel respect and trust can be gained, if from the outset your defensive they will be defensive too.

Thanks for your offer of help but as a statistics graduate i will politely decline your offer.
10:15 December 25, 2009 by dsc
This guy DreEstwd is a dim-witted wannabe Nazi skin-head who needs to shut up.

Now a re-cast of my previous post to VW since I made so many mistakes in the last one (I was sleepy. lol ).

@ .viking.warrior.

You post report after report trying to show that some races - non-whites of course - are responsible for greater share of crimes committed in white Europe and the disburbance of the white-way of life.. Your solution to this problem is this: purge Europe of all non-whites. Deport all of them and bar them from entering Europe. All of them. As long as they are part of these races. They are all the same.

This is what your message amounts to. And yet you repeatedly refuse to accept the obvious fact that that is precisely what Hitler tried to do when, according to him, he identified a similar problem. Jews were disrupting and poluting the Aryan race in Europe. After proving that there is a clear link between crime, bad culture, etc and these "inferior" races and that everyone of them is like that, you should ( without any shame and openly) proceed to say you are for that reason proposing a method to solve this problem based on separating or cleansing the white race from these polutants. Admit that and I will say you are courageous, bold Skin-Head. Later, we can discuss how that means you are a neo-nazi.

If after identifying the problem and its source, you proposed a different solution (like others have done), then I wouldn't say you're a scared-to-be-discovered Nazi who is just using this as an excuse to vent his/her hate for non-whites.
12:16 December 25, 2009 by himilo
I suprised negative and recist people comments on the local.immigrants come to here for protection not to recieve aid. after the recieved many problems cause by western countries. can you imagine some of them before they come to here what they are?

18:06 December 25, 2009 by .viking.warrior.

You are a boring little gimp with nothing of substance to say at all, just empty Marxist hot air.

You have no argument that you can defend at all.

Alex t,

If were really are, as you claim, a "statistic graduate" then I suspect you have wasted your time: The first fundamental mistake you make is to have totally failed to understand that Victoria is a state of Australia, not a town, a village or a city.

After this very basic error, one that not even someone who hasn't 'studied statistics' should make let alone a "statistic graduate", the rest of your comments on the veracity of the article and the figures become laughable.

It is quite clear that you too are another of these self-appointed PC Commissars telling people that "Xenophobia has no place in the Swedish society" as you have some sort of God given right to enforce that and the way people think. Xenophobia, as with racism, is just the preferred Marxist hate label for the natural human desire for homogeneity and commonality.

Given this information and the fact that you are clearly not a "statistic graduate" having made a very, very stupid mistake, I think it is quite clear that you are just another Marxist liar, trying out the first tactic in the list described above.

Don't worry though, there are more statistics for you coming soon.


These people are economic immigrant and no more; if it were just protection they were after then they would have obeyed the 1951 UN Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees and claimed asylum in the first safe bordering country and not wormed their way illegally across Europe to the country they think has the best benefits system.

Some more benefits of diversity:

"Immigrants behind 25% of Swedish crime

Immigrants in Sweden are four times more likely to be investigated for lethal violence and robbery than persons born in Sweden to Swedish parents, the National Council for Crime Prevention said on Wednesday.

Immigrants were also three times more likely to be investigated for assault and five times more likely to be investigated for sex crimes.

Among foreigners suspected of offences, those from North Africa and Western Asia were overrepresented."


The cost to the Swedish state of receiving asylum seekers is set to rise to 12.2 billion kronor ($1.7 billion) by 2010, double the 2005 figure. The rise is largely due to more generous new laws introduced last year, which has led in particular to a large number of Iraqis being allowed to stay

17:10 December 30, 2009 by WriterDirector
@ laura ka baal

Shut Up and Go Back to Your Cave and Pray to the toilet god Allah. lol : )
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