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TV4 refuses to air Sweden Democrat ads

TT/AFP/The Local · 27 Aug 2010, 17:33

Published: 27 Aug 2010 17:33 GMT+02:00

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The party wanted to pay the channel 1.5 million kronor ($201,240) to run the ad. The half-minute advert shows a race in which an elderly woman with a walker is chased by a group of burqa-clad women pushing prams with a slogan promising to safeguard pension funding at the expense of immigration.

As an alarm-like sound plays in the background, a voiceover says, "All politics are about priorities - now you have a choice."

The clip promotes the Sweden Democrats' demand that, like other parties, pensioners' taxes be cut to the same levels of wage earners. However, they claim their plans would be funded by reducing immigration.

"We decided not to broadcast it," Gunnar Gidefeldt, communications director for TV4, told AFP.

Swedish law on freedom of expression prohibits messages that contain hate grounded on race and religion, said Gidefeldt.

"In this case, it is against religion," he said.

According to party press secretary Erik Almqvist, the ad does not violate Swedish law. The party has screened the clip for lawyers, who said that it does not break the law against inciting racial hatred.

"The conflict we see as a result of mass immigration is not related to the person's origin, but rather a conflict of values, as far as we can see," said Almqvist in reference to the burqa-clad women in the video.

TV4 CEO Jan Scherman disagreed.

"The film is contrary to the democracy clause in the Radio and Television Act and also against democracy clauses which the Sweden Democrats, among others, have adopted for the equality of all people, regardless of whether it is the European Convention or the UN Charter," he said.

"The film is also against the constitution act on freedom of speech that prohibits hate speech," Scherman added.

Per Hultmangård, a lawyer at the Swedish Media Publishers' Association (Tidningsutvgivarna), came to a different conclusion. He does not see how the video would violate the law.

"I cannot see how this would be hate speech," he told news agency TT. "This is an election ad. The scope is wide for what one can say. They simply play on people's fears. Legally, it is within the allowable framework."

However, Scherman stood by his position and referred to an EU directive that is the basis for the wording of the Broadcasting and Television Act.

"The directive prohibits incitement of hatred according to race, sex or religion, which supports my decision," he said.

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"It is quite clear to me as the editor responsible that those who watch the clip, together with the text, images and sound, very clearly see a group portrayed as intimidating and aggressive. The group is very easily identifiable, belonging to a religion, dressed in a certain way and attacking another group," he added.

According to Scherman, that group is the Muslims.

"There are probably lawyers and press experts who disagree on this," he said. "It is for TV4 and I to make an independent decision based on our knowledge, experience and perception of the law. It is not possible, even if one gets advice and opinions, to refer to them when making a editorial decision. It must be based on the conclusion that we and I have come to."

The Sweden Democrats could play kingmaker in the election on September 19th, which is up for grabs between the two coalitions. According to a survey from last Friday, just a month ahead of voting, the party was polling at 3.6 percent of the vote, just shy of the minimum of 4 percent that is required to enter Sweden's parliament, the Riksdag.

If they can reach this threshold for the first time, political analysts believe the party could be in a powerful position with the two main blocs on course to split the vote.

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17:56 August 27, 2010 by Laurence F
Does this mean that the "truth" is hate speech?

Swedes ramble on about "human rights,' but Freedom of Speech is less important then their communist radical views.

The left always has lied in the past, lies in the present, and will lie in the future, because their entire premise is a lie.
18:06 August 27, 2010 by PaulTheOctopus
where i can watch this video???
18:16 August 27, 2010 by voxprivat
Censorship has two victims. The person being silenced and the person prevented from hearing/reading the "offensive" message.

The only judge and arbitror of appropriate speech is the person who chooses or chooses not to receive the message. It is a NATURAL unalienable right to BOTH speak and to voluntarily seek whatever information.

One day, we will be rid of political correctness that chokes our INDIVIDUAL (as opposed to Collective) RIGHTS.

Men and women are born with certain unalienable rights, these are NATURAL RIGHTS that are not or may not be given or taken away by other men/women. They come from the mystery of Creation.

Any amendment to the Constitution (the Ground Law) or legislature that limits our Natural Rights to Free Speech (where no individual harm to a person with standing can be proven) is in violation of our unalienable Natural Rights from birth (a birthright) and therefore are illegitimate.

The person being prevented from considering ALL information available (as contrived by the hand of other men/woman) has by definition had his/her Natural Rights violated. This is far more fundamental than a class of people being "theoretically" "offended".

Ideas must be treated in a FREE MARKETPLACE. Imagine farm producers (symbolically people of ideas) bringing their product of fruits and vegetables to the market square. Towns people come searching for the best fruits and vegetables and chose the best. At the end of the day, the unwanted fruit and vegetable that did not sell is thrown out and swept away. The people (INDIVIDUALS) themselve chose what they would buy.

When a MINORITY of elitists restrict access to a free marketplace of ideas we have tyranny.

There is a remedy. You, dear reader, are an individual. You are born with certain unalienable rights that stem from Creation, and these are NATURAL RIGHTS that cannot be impinged or infringed by any man/woman or "select group" of elitist.

Do not tolerate your Natural Rights being infringed. Exercise FREEDOM by never tolerating elitists limiting your Natural Rights.

People are welcome to read a treatise on freedom at www.ArticlesofFreedom.us
18:18 August 27, 2010 by truthworthy
kudos to the editor. if all media rejected hate speech like this , we could all be living in harmony and love.

Freedom of Speech is overrated. its freedom of speech when it is against Muslims and it is hate speech when it is against the interests of the west.
18:35 August 27, 2010 by calebian22
Freedom of Speech is never overrated.
18:44 August 27, 2010 by Niggletriple
Obvious censorship! I think TV4 should show the ad and let the Swedish electorate make-up there own mind.....
18:59 August 27, 2010 by Traveler2010
This is blatant censorship! I thought Sweden was supposed to be a free and open society. I guess those privileges only extend to the Mosalam immigrants who want to come into Sweden and destroy the fabric of Swedish society. Freedom of speech apparently does not extend to legitimate critics of Swedish government immigration policy. That's too bad.

19:19 August 27, 2010 by christopherx2
You lefty, media types are hilarious... you show, and talk about, degenerate filth that corrupts the minds of our youth, but you won't allow the presentation of a topic for consideration that will affect the future of the Swedish nation...

I am actually looking forward to Sweden becoming an Islamic republic, and the Muslims ending your foul corruption, permanently. And I'm not the slightest bit Islamic... or maybe I am... hmmm, I was praying in the same chapel as a Muslim the other weekend...
20:10 August 27, 2010 by testUserName
Nice script by SD. I think TV4 is supporting their campaign for free.. smart guys at SD and SD supporters in TV4. :)
20:16 August 27, 2010 by Syftfel
In the unlikely event that anyone did not know the definition of "PC",("PK" in Swedish), there it is. It's funny how the leftist loons do not recognize that freedom of expression also includes the right to say things that may be offensive to some.
20:17 August 27, 2010 by blåbärspaj
Dear Swedes, you can find it on youtube. Search on "Sverigedemokraternas valfilm 2010 "
20:36 August 27, 2010 by Kaethar
TV4 is a privately-run advert-funded channel and it's up to their editors to decide what should and shouldn't be shown on their channel. I would say the advert would be covered under the freedom of speech laws as several lawyers have stated. It's the EDITOR in this article who claims it's hate speech. His opinion is law when it comes to TV4 and it's as simple as that. I don't see what the controversy is all about. Privately-run channels are inherently biased. If you have a problem with this decision sue TV4 - the Swedish government has nothing to do with it as some people here seem to presume.
20:55 August 27, 2010 by Laurence F
Then, if the Swedish government has nothing to do with TV4; then they are "useful idiots" for the government.

You do not need to own the Press to control the Press.
21:24 August 27, 2010 by Governor
The right to freedom of expression does not extend to-

(a) propaganda for war;

(b) incitement to violence;

(c) hate speech; or

(d) advocacy of hatred that-

(1) constitutes ethnic incitement, vilification of others or

incitement to cause harm; or

(2) is based on any ground of discrimination directly or indirectly against any

person on any ground, including race, sex, pregnancy, marital status,

health status, ethnic or social origin, colour, age, disability, religion,

conscience, belief, culture, dress, language or birth.
22:02 August 27, 2010 by Syftfel
@Governor. So what's left? And who makes the decisions?
22:32 August 27, 2010 by spo10
Where can we watch the video? Let's see it first before we decide if it's indeed racially discriminating.
22:47 August 27, 2010 by glamelixir
Has someone stop to think for a second what is the concept of immigration that Sverige demokraterna has?

Not that any of their claims are right at all, I am only wondering here about how worrying is to think of politicians who don't even have their own ideas clear.

I watched how an 18 year old Swedish kid slammed a Sverige Demokraterna talking politics at Sergelstorg the other day. It was embarassing to see this big guy talking about "facts" unable to give statistics or numbers in money. He couldn't answer if his position was against taking in refugees or immigration in general. He couldn't even give an opinion on what about the children of immigrants born in Sweden.

He only could agree on that "british immigrants had more in common with the Swedish culture at least".

As an immigrant who has never recieved one single krona from the government and payed taxes, I wonder first: how am I affecting the situation of Swedes and second: what should I do as I am married to a Swede that has to live here...

Anyhow they can't kick me out because I belong to the EU, but I am not even sure that they know that! hahaha

These are all questions so feel free to office as an eye opener for me.
23:01 August 27, 2010 by diegoveggie
well, call it censorship if you will, but why bother taking money from this bigot ignorants that want to spread hatred? who cares what they have to say?

bunch of rednecks
23:28 August 27, 2010 by Vitas
Great add!


It is true in modern Sweden. If I could make any choise on vote - I am fo SD.
00:38 August 28, 2010 by diegoveggie

spelling, son
01:03 August 28, 2010 by Abbot
@ truthworthy

Great idea. Take the first step on the road to fascism and become that which you profess to despise.
01:05 August 28, 2010 by Open Minded
Bunch of racist from Sverige Democrate got no life and better program or political idea to gain the votes so they are picking on Muslim women.

What a idiots, bunch of losers! Get some educated members and try to come with better idea.

These losers do not read the impact of immigrants on one country economics. Immigrants are better for economic and they are a work force and these women gives Sweden children. These children can do much for Sweden in the long run.
01:13 August 28, 2010 by blåbärspaj
01:19 August 28, 2010 by Open Minded
Sverige Democrat is root to Hitler!
01:31 August 28, 2010 by Jannik
@Open Minded

"Immigrants are better for economic and they are a work force and these women gives Sweden children."

As a group, muslim and african immigrants cost money. So they are bad for the economy.

"These children can do much for Sweden in the long run. "

Am sure they can do much for Sweden in the long run. I am just not interested in muslim colonization and the hostility and war it brings with it.

In 10-15 years time, Malmo will become muslim majority, by now it is already 40% muslim.

This demographically illustrates that mass immigration and multiculturalism results in ethnic replacement of the aboriginal population.

Multiculturalism is an ideological scam, fabricated with the intention of replacing ethnic europeans with muslims.

Multiculturalism is nothing but anti-european racism disguised as warm and fuzzy "tolerance".
02:09 August 28, 2010 by Roy E
Racists? it s more likely that the people at TV4 are a bunch of insecure cultural surrender monkeys.

Perhaps 'surrender' is too kind a word. 'Forfeit' might be more appropriate.

What cowards.
02:24 August 28, 2010 by glamelixir

As you are one of them I would like to ask you something that I have been wondering about... as I believe your party's message sometimes sounds like a joke because of how unclear it is.

I am an immigrant, I am Italian brought up in Argentina married to a Swede and I have never taken any kind of economic help from the Swedish government. I am not a muslim and the only invasion I am commanding here is that of giving my brown eyes to the genetic mix.

Am I also a threat? In that case, how? if not, why do you put immigrants as a generalization in your message?

You are lacking a good PR in that case.
03:00 August 28, 2010 by oOjimOo
Great publicity for the Swedish Democrats! Extreme right wing parties throughout Europe always gain during times of economic hardship. They play upon peoples underlying fears, an excellent example of this is the banned advert - Swedish pensioners will lose out because the money grabbing, socially assisted Muslim immigrants will take all their money!

It's nothing new. The same pattern has been replicated in Britain each decade since the 60's. There, parties, most notably the British National Party, have risen to the same level through stoking fears along the same lines, yet when the economy returns to prosperity they tend to go back to being marginal parties.

Censorship is bad; people should be allowed to decide what is right, and what is obviously wrong - as in this case. Democracy should mean freedom of political expression, no matter how 96% of the population might detest a Swedish Democrats victory in the elections.

I doubt very much that the Alliance will want to have anything to do with them in any case. But, come the next election, they will have faded into obscurity.
04:42 August 28, 2010 by aebak
This site is mostly followed by immigrants, not local Swedes. So when I see these long well thought out statements in support of the Racist agenda of the SDs, it reminds me of the conceited campaign sun by the Danskfolkparti in Denamark. Where a number of their own party members volunteer to sit for a few hours daily at their computers and write comments in all the different news-websites, blogs, and forums under "independent" sounding user-names to promote their racist agenda. Many a times these racist comments by "independent" minded people have been traced by news organizations to the official desk computers of Danskfolkparty's Members of Parliament. I can see the SDs trying to emulate this dubious political strategy in Sweden. But how dumb of them to waste their time on this site, where not a single reader will every vote for these immigrant hating, racist bigots. Viva Sverige!
05:12 August 28, 2010 by here for the summer
@trustworthy and openminded a search on your posts show you to be neither. You are both always for all muslim causes and even defending terrorism and radical islamic views. It is true that muslim women do not work at the same percentage as Swedish born women and that is a drag on the economy.
05:20 August 28, 2010 by Hindustani786
I want to add a video of

Hitler like face Man kicking J_ews and Prasing Swedish Democrats for vote.

Am i allowed.

A bunch of idiots for "Freedom of expression" doesn't know what is the real meaning of Freedom,


Now you people are real happy that all racist and fascist forces are after ISLAM followers,

Do not forget next time people with different colors would be under attack.
06:40 August 28, 2010 by goodbyeammar
For those who criticize the editors and make much noise about freedom of speech, what's about the holocaust? The holocaust is a historical event and we are not allowed to discuss it. We have to say, six-million Jews killed, otherwise, we will be jailed!!!

And here, the ads had nothing to do with history; it is a pure act of hatred but still the pro-Israelis who support a criminal and illegal state that occupies and terrorize and massacre children, still they support the ad!
08:42 August 28, 2010 by Abbot

So what you are really saying is that TV stations can choose what political ads the population is exposed to, yes? Would you still support that contention if TV stations started banning pro-immgrant ads because of perceived reverse racism?

Banning political ads opens a dangerous door. Political parties have long memories and you can bet the farm that there will be unintended consequences of such a precedent.
09:09 August 28, 2010 by Kevin Harris
Perhaps TV4 and my postman can get togethor to discuss how they can further sensor my information.
10:07 August 28, 2010 by RoyceD
The reality is that their opinion that they are putting forward for why they deserve your vote on voting day is clearly misguided.

Immigrants are not taking your pension money!? Selling off state owned enterprises is. It is way harder to make money when you have no assets. It is also way more costly to try and police a community of people who have been disowned by the government than what it costs to make sure they have access to health and education.

Get a grip social demos, it is your greed that is ruining what was once a beautifully equal Swedish society.
10:16 August 28, 2010 by CarlBlack
@goodbyeammar: Can you name somebody really jailed for denying holocaust? Such fools are just slammed by any non-blind people.

I don't see any sense at all in your statement, political ad is not about history but about future. If it would be about history, than they could show a lot of things like 9/11, massacre in Madrid subway, executions by stone throwing in Iran... and that would cause real mess - but just pure history, as you say...
10:20 August 28, 2010 by Frobobbles
I watched the video at youtube. It looked pretty much as an everyday scene at the local mall ( 'köpcentrum') in the swedish suburb where I do my shopping.

I can't figure out where the 'racial' hatred could possibly lie, as no single racial or even ethnic group is singled out.
10:55 August 28, 2010 by Jes
All of you idiots and racists ,

before you write your next silly comment , be informed that muslims and immigrants are not the same thing .

You SD fools should also know that at the moment ,there are as many women immigrants from Thailand who are coming in as wives to Swedish men . It`s no sectret that most of these wives are uneducated and that their Swedish husbands are neither specially skilled nor great earners .

Maybe , another ADD showing an old Swedish alcoholic 6.5 man walking next to a 4.3 21 year old wife from Thailand ( with her 3 kids ) would be more exciting .
11:13 August 28, 2010 by Argentina84
Hej guys, yes, blame the inmigrants! HAHAHA

I expected you to be smarter than this, but through this ad you're showing that you do not think beyond the ordinary uneducated citizen. Do you expect to get more votes this way? Do you plan to run a country like this? Good luck!

And next time I would like to see other ethnical groups represented in the ad...Why not a bunch of Greeks, Latinamericans, Polish, or Albanians?

But then you do not want to stir hatred, right? ;)
12:04 August 28, 2010 by locaxy
Wait...how are they planning to keep the welfare state going without immigration?

Welfare state is similar to a pyramid scheme with immigrants being the new suckers. Can't everybody see this?
13:59 August 28, 2010 by Bostonexpat
My guess is that this was a calculated move to get better marketing (?) ..SD didn't really believe the ad would be run. There are countless other subtle ways for SD to get their message out without blatantly crossing the "established" line. Either way, the hoopla worked on me...I'm going to check out the ad and have a good laugh
14:50 August 28, 2010 by salongsvaenster
Well done TV4!

A civilised society should positively encourage multiculturalism and tolerance - those that cling to some mystical ideas of ethnic or cultural "purity" have lost the plot.

No-one needs the intolerant and bigoted elements that try to provoke ill-will and hostility to people purely on the grounds of the colour of their skin. No-one needs their repellant, backwoods views - their only purpose is to whip up fear of anyone that is "different" from them. Such were their tactics in 1933 in Germany, such are their tactics in 2010 in Sweden (and elsewhere).

The issue here is not censorship, but protection of the innocent. Again, well done to TV4 for taking a stand for civilised values!
16:02 August 28, 2010 by Roy E

Do you really think it a 'civilised society'?

The inverted morality of the justice system suggests the exact opposite.
22:15 August 29, 2010 by Urabutln
I agree they should show the ad; I think SD and their supporters are despicable people who should be ashamed of themselves, but I think they should be allowed to show their ads. We live in a free country after all. I'm with Voltaire on this one "I may hate your views etc..."

Also, I do believe the reason SD are in with a chance this year is because of the overly PC, knee-jerk reaction from the main political parties; there are some problems with immigration and assimilation in Sweden, and closing your ayes and pretending everything is swell won't help, it'll just give SD more voters.

Also, if they show the ad, no-one in their right minds will vote for SD, as the ad is almost painfully shite - like it was made by a 15-year-old racist with a 2-digit IQ who thinks he was being clever, when in fact the execution and pay-off is almost painfully funny to behold.

It is in fact sooooo bad, I recommend everyone head over to YouTube and watch it; it is unintentional comedy of the highest order.
08:55 August 30, 2010 by samwise
why anti-immigration is labeled racism? are't immigrants from all races?

and by the way, muslims are from all races too.

it might be a sign that people are brainwashed so much that they have to make the reality fit in to the given framework with the given terms.
10:48 August 30, 2010 by Scornful_Luigi
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step."

- Winston Churchill, British Prime Minister during the WWII, explaining Islam and why the Sweden Democrats are growing alongside other similar parties in Europe.
13:53 August 30, 2010 by Uncle
The problem of the left wing is that you are constantly confused and muslims use it to their advantage.

For example, Multiculture-loving socialists defend the right of muslim women to wear burqa - the symbol of their suppression and brainwashing by men.

They also defend the rights of muslim immigrants to immigrate here, although it is proved that the integration is simply non-existent. Whenever second generation Russians, Finns and Germans prove that they are completely integrated, Muslims come here to make the state more sharia oriented (although this is the very thing they ran away in the first place) instead of adjusting themselves to the secular Sweden.

What more, the left wing is first to criticize the church for "religious dictatorship" all over Europe , but they are also the first ones to defend the mosques and imams, whenever they are caught in calls for "eternal jihad".

I am glad that there is at least one party here that expresses the thoughts of majority of Swedes. I assure you that although this majority will not vote for them, there is not one swede that hasn't asked himself the same questions that SD is saying out loud about muslims…
15:22 August 30, 2010 by GefleFrequentFlyer
"Swedish law on freedom of expression prohibits messages that contain hate grounded on race and religion, said Gidefeldt." (from article).

So, what you are saying is, you have no "freedom of expression". Typical holier-than-thou righteous Sweden....
15:48 August 30, 2010 by red.king
What a load of rubbish. I would class myself as being left of center and have to say that I do not find the video all that offensive. Bad taste most certainly, but not racist. I honestly believe that SD will damage themselves more by having such a distastful advert for public viewing. Better to leave it out there for all to see, it will do them more harm than good.
15:48 August 30, 2010 by Jes
@Uncle ,

this is for you : Russians , Finns and Germans are all "NATIONALIES";

Muslims are people who follow "MOHAMMED"

This means that there could be Russians , Finnis , and Germans who are also muslims.

Point : Islam, race , nationality and Immigrant are all different common tags / phrases / identities

Also , most women immigrants in Sweden are not muslims , neither do all muslim women wear burqa Example : a) Women from Thailand , who are very popular wives to Swedish men these days ,are not muslims ; 95 % of them are Bhudha . They are not easy to intergrate because most of them are illiterate. They prefer speaking their languages and cooking their own food dishes . Their usually much older husbands don`t complain .. . .

b) Women from Gambia are exclusively muslim . Almost none of them wears burqa . More than 75 of them get employed , especially in old peoples Homes.

So . . .? Swedens biggest problem right now is not immigration ; it`s a mixture of ignorence and lack of self-confidence among less-educated , less-travelled , less- informed people like you . SD members are simply a bunch primitive territorial bastards . The good news is that their days are numbered .

Get it ?
16:48 August 30, 2010 by Vetinari
@ #3 voxprivat: In case you haven't noticed, this is Sweden, not the US. Your constitution holds no sway here. Whatever rights, obligations and truths it claims to hold are essentially only true if they happen to agree with Swedish law.

Not to mention that banning hatespeech is allowed by the language in the first amendment.

@ #48 Gefle: You would notice that no-one is bringing charges to SD for this message right. Ergo they (as well as other Swedes) have freedom of speech. FoS also includes the freedom to not send a message (the freedom of silence), which is what TV4 has done.

Personally I think this kind of behavior only helps to strengthen SD, when open debates and factual arguments would the the way to stop them.
18:01 August 30, 2010 by GefleFrequentFlyer

Exactly. But, you can't call yourself a self-respecting media outlet and "ban" a paid for ad even when it disagrees with the presumptuous(media) liberal/left leaning bias on falsehood grounds of "racism".

Even in america, people are starting to just now realize that the rebuke of a"racism" charge as to thier opposition to immigration reform and Obama's presidential policies are ignorant.

Hopefully the Sweden Democrats and prey on this fallacy to thier advantage.

I will disagree with you on the "freedom" of speech/expression. If it is truely free, it is uncensored. In Sweden, it is not. It is compromised by goofy contradictory assertions by certain folks in high places in the media and government. Let the public decide what is acceptable.
18:34 August 30, 2010 by Vetinari

Your pathetic 'media is leftist' rant is destroyed by the fact that rightwing media is repeatedly caught flubbing facts and editing to suit their purpose. Fox News in America is a perfect example.

A private media company have every right to ban whatever ads they like. Their ads have nothing to do with the media they report. Therefore they can ban a ton of ads and still report the media in an fair and balanced manner (although in reality this will not likely be the case).

The term racism has played out its power as it is used absolutely everywhere by all sides regardless if it is about race or not. A lot of SD's support comes from the people who are tired of being called racists as soon as they open their mouths.

By your definition then no country have freedom of speech as there are libel/slander laws in place. And at least in the US you can't yell fire in a theatre.

Although this is a point we can argue as their are two ways to see FoS: protecting the words (how you say something) or protecting the message (what you say).

American rightwingers (this is the group I have noticed that best fits this description, there are others) much prefer the word protection as that gives them the freedom to vent their hatred without having to come up with a point. (See Westboro Baptist Church).

Sweden and Canada (and the US constitution) prefer to protect the message, or more to the point: The basic point you want to make. And as there is not a point that requires you to hurl racial insults to another person, racial insults can be banned without a loss of freedom of speech.
21:14 August 30, 2010 by GefleFrequentFlyer
Fox News/WSJ are one of the FEW large conservative major media outlets swimming in the same pool as the NYT, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, WashPost, HuffPost, MSNBC. It's a well documented fact world over that MOST media outlets lean left of center due to the liberal arts backgrounds that dot thier payrolls.

My issue isn't with the TV4,(as you acknowlege, they can run what they want) it's the half-baked emulation of "freedom of speech/expression" that Sweden holds dear, and who calls the shots of whats in violation and what's not. The issue here isn't racism or against a religion, it's making a point about the destruction of Swedish Society by unchecked migration policy as you agree. The problem is that everytime there is a Lars Viks, Jews getting run out of Malmo, IDF organ harvesting or Sweden Democrats getting labeled as nazis, I cringe when these purported self-respecting news agencies go on thier "a la carte" stance on the issues when enforcing journalisitc intergrity and obeying Swedish law. Only then, thier true colors show, which are mostly on the left side of the spectrum.

Like you said, Westboro Baptist Church (which were in town last weekend). Far right fringe, but the right and left knows they're nuts and thier message is lost on 98% of the population. Let the public decide what they want to read, hear or see. That's what it really comes down to. If people like what Fox or the NYT is saying, let them watch and read. Fair minded people such as ourselves know that we must fact-check the same stories in various media outlets to make sure we're not pitched a curveball. Do you think Fox flubs more than CNN? Vice-versa? NPR more than BBC?....... I think you would be surprised by the tacky media out there on all sides and what is thinly disguised as news, but really opinion.

TV4 will find themselves on the unpopular side of the fence soon once Everyman Swede demands access to important political speech and they sink thier viewership as the lose credibilty as they use thier agenda as a filter.
10:19 August 31, 2010 by Jes
@GefleFrequentFlyer dear ,

Sweden Democrats are NAZIs minus the gas , period .

Both ( the Nazi & SD ) behave like untrained / wild dogs whose dominant instict is to attack anything they consider a threat to their territory .

Both are bloody cowards !
12:23 August 31, 2010 by Uncle

You see what is the problem? YOU just don't get it. Russians, Chinese, Koreans etc, who are NOT muslim integrate and work hard, while Russians, Chinese and koreans who ARE muslims do not integrate and do not work hard. Since there are not many chinese muslims in Sweden, it is perfectly correct to divide these groups into Europeans vs Asians vs muslims from all over.

Slogan throwing "well traveled" commies like you, who just love the word "racism" do not get that Islam is the one that is hurting the peoples' ability to integrate. Not only this, Islam is easily interpreted as supporting violence and hence muslims are much more easily incline towards crime than any other religion.

Thai women arrive here with a HUSBAND who will support them. They have a PLAN!!! They do not need to integrate. They are self suffecient and do not demand a thing. Muslims who come here do not have a plan. They are not sponsored by anyone (except the taxpayers of course).


BTW, where did you get the stats about Ghambian women? Would be interesting to see where nowadays commies get their info.
16:08 September 1, 2010 by gosigkanin
Sweden would rather air naked people having sex on TV than this ad. It appears that freedom of speech is limited to when someone wants to express the truth. You can watch this ad on Youtube btw. I will be voting SD in my kommun this month!
19:33 September 2, 2010 by manrush
This is a private TV channel, right?

Where's the freedom of speech violation when a private channel chooses what it wishes to show?

Uncle, your blatant and untrue islamophobia is showing. Did some Muslim girl reject you in the past, or something?
21:46 September 2, 2010 by spo10
Why are you attacking Muslims? They're not the only immigrants in this country. The problem here is that most Swedish people don't want to get themselves mixed up with immigrants. You don't want to know us and our culture. I think most of you here find us dirty, uneducated or something else. But when we start opening our mouths, you guys are left flabbergasted because you knew then that we're not what you thought us to be. Let the ballots speak for the people in this country. You know better than to vote someone who hates the very people who cleans your and takes out your garbage.
12:55 September 3, 2010 by brothermorphine
Hi I am 19 and live in Sweden. Many of you have probably got this whole campaign the wrong way and the whole idea behind that video. It is not about the colour of their skin, It's about questioning what kind of things we prioritize today. And how far everything have went in our society. Statistics prove a lot with the increasing crimes, and our tax money pays for many immigrants and for them to adjust to our society. http://www.bra.se/
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