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Poll troubles continue for Social Democrats

TT/David Landes · 5 Sep 2010, 10:19

Published: 05 Sep 2010 10:19 GMT+02:00

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According to the latest survey from the Sifo polling firm, only 28.7 percent of voters would support the Social Democrats if the election were held today – the party’s worst Sifo polling result since 1997.

The figures indicate that core voters are starting to abandon the Social Democrats, according to the Göteborgs-Posten newspaper which, along with Svenska Dagbladet (SvD), presented the results of the Sifo study on Sunday.

Nevertheless, combined support for the three opposition parties which make up the centre-left Red-Green coalition increased slightly, by 0.4 percent, on the strength of a 2.1 percent rise in support for the Green Party and a 0.4 percent rise in support for the Left Party.

Meanwhile, the four parties which comprise the ruling centre-right Alliance received support from more than half of Swedish voters for the second poll in a row.

According to Sifo poll, 50.1 percent of voters support the four Alliance parties. On Saturday, a Demoskop poll put combined support for the four governing parties at 50.5 percent.

However, support for the Moderate Party dropped according to the Sifo poll, falling by 1.3 percent to 31.7 percent. Nevertheless, the poll shows that the Moderates remain the party with the highest level of support among Swedish voters.

Among the other governing parties, the Christian Democrats lost one percentage point, bringing them to within a half a percent of the 4 percent threshold to maintain representation in the Riksdag. The Centre and Liberal Parties, meanwhile, saw support increase by 1.4 percent and 1.0 percent, respectively.

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And if the current poll results hold, the government won’t have to worry about the nationalist Sweden Democrats, which saw their support fall by one percent to 3.6 percent, putting the party below the 4 percent threshold.

TT/David Landes (news@thelocal.se)

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12:29 September 5, 2010 by misssh
i would not vote for a face that looks like a bum either
13:21 September 5, 2010 by Jan M
Sweden's future is going to be decided on personal appearance. The country is screwed in that case. Tony Blair - pretty boy and delusional moron.
14:10 September 5, 2010 by miss79
wonder how the swedes going to survive if moderates continue another 4 year? private apoteket,clinic,schools and universities?then more thousands of people losing their job..i guess sweden will be the next holocaust with the coming of sverige demokraterna in the parliment
14:21 September 5, 2010 by Jan M
I was in Northern Sweden last week and apparently the government was trying to sell the local hospital to a private company but it was resisted by the local health board. I'm sure a general election win would give them the confidence to force that one through. The lessen from the UK by the way is:-

1. With privatisations/sell-offs like that take a close look at who sits on the Boards of the successful companies and who advises them. Politicians are often very close partners.

2. The cost burden on the taxpayer actually rises because now as well as paying for the healthcare costs the taxpayer also has to put in enough resource to cover a profit margin for the private company. More usually the company cuts some corners (eg. Hospital cleaning) to boost profits and outsources facilities such as catering to other subcontractors who typically employ temporary workers on 6-month contracts to make them more 'flexibile'. Flexibility often means no job security, lower wage levels and no employee commitment. In a hospital that means increased mortality rates and the spread of antibiotic resistant infections.

Welcome to the wonderful reality of privatising essential services.
15:53 September 5, 2010 by 2394040
The Americanization of Sweden continues unhindered.

@ Jan M

Another facet of making employees more "flexible" is that they must take over more job duties. It's much like trying to be in two different places at the same time. This leads to a much greater incidence of employee mistakes; the employees are so harried that they really can't concentrate properly. And in a hospital, dealing with life and death, this can cause disaster. But the hospital aristocracy continues to earn more and more money, and that's really all they are about.
16:24 September 5, 2010 by Jan M
You're right. Anyway if you're a private company and fancy buying a hospital from the Swedish government then they'll be flogging them up around Umea. I don't they'll be inflicting that policy on the good citizens of Stockholm in a hurry.
17:05 September 5, 2010 by misssh
Princess Madeline....... that is someone I would vote for!!
17:54 September 5, 2010 by rugla
Common guys,

Whilst I agree not all privatizations are good and basis public services should be governmental, however the system does not work it is flawed and although the Moderaterna are the best party to stimulate growth and place more disposable income in all our pockets, at the end of the day, they are continuously blocked by the social democratic leaches who continue to believe that if you do well you should be penalized and taxed to death.

Let's face it the more we stimulate growth by allowing people to succeed, grow and keep some of their hard earned income, the spend will stimulate growth and businesses which in turn generate a better tax base.

Look a Switzerland, low taxes more disposable income, more companies more money for infrastructure, services and other things.

Here the Red Green alliance wants more taxes, more spend for bidrag and more for refugees and by the way send more money they do not have elsewhere to help other countries in need, charity begins here in your back yard, there are single mothers barely making it! Ah yes we need to raise taxes to help them and others!
18:11 September 5, 2010 by Jan M
I think it's more sophisticated than that though. Some things benefit from privatisation and some don't. Who wants to be treated in a hospital by someone with one eye on a profit margin. Putting it bluntly intensive care doesn't pay well enough to be commercially with it. Now extend this to the benefits system. Strip this away entirely and there's a crimewave which the taxpayer ends up paying for in jail and police time. Other areas can work but believe me society doesn't benefit from panicking and pressing a big panic button or vote buying through half-cocked privatisations because large chunks of the population won't just disappear. As for the trickle down idea it can work but frankly they'll have to offer tax breaks for making donations to charity or spending on good causes because all the evidence is that as get people get rich they become more stingy. The biggest spenders and givers proportionate to their wealth often have relatively modest earnings.

There are areas that would benefit. I don't know for example why Sweden's biggest mining company is state owned whilst a pro-privatisation government is suggesting selling hospitals.
19:37 September 5, 2010 by Bender B Rodriquez
The privatization of St Görans sjukhus was quite successful which shows that there is great improvement to be made in hospitals run by Landstinget. St Görans already has made a profit that exceeds their initial investment and at the same time they have been one of the best hospitals in several quality assessments. Here is even a statement from the Social Democrats that they want to implement the same cleaning procedures as in St Göran on all hospitals: http://www.socialdemokraterna.se/Webben-for-alla/Partidistrikt/Stockholm/Media/Nytt-fran-Stockholm/S-satsar-pa-patientsakerheten-Smuts-ska-kosta-renare-och-sakrare-sjukhus-ska-lona-sig/

The main problem with hospitals run by Landstinget is that they are a mess due to political influence/leadership (e.g. politically assigned sjukvårdsdirektörer). The argument for privatization is that one should let hospitals be run by those who know how to run them and who have an incentive to maximize quality per unit of cost. It also opens up the possibility to run hospitals as non-profit foundations free of political influence. Chalmers University of Technology (which is a private foundation) is a typical example that de-politization can be a good thing.

Also, many of the ambulance services and local clinics are already run privately. In fact, the Social Democratic government in Göteborg has decided to privatize most of their local clinics since the few private ones they already had showed much higher quality than the ones run by the govt.
20:33 September 5, 2010 by americanska
The social democrats are stuck in the 70s. It's good to see that the good people of Sweden are going to keep them out of power. The longer they are out of power the weaker they will get until eventually people realize they don't need the government to manage their life.
21:01 September 5, 2010 by Jan M
As the previous poster (Rodriquez) suggested, the Social Democrats are and have long been committed to privatisations. This debate is really about which of the major political parties you went to carve up Sweden first amongst their buddies. Both will fail and when as a wealthy individual in Stockholm you're getting knifed for your cash in a few years time and don't have a rapid emergency response don't say you weren't warned.
21:29 September 5, 2010 by Bender B Rodriquez
Wow, I had my doubts about you Jan M, but from your last post I realize you really are a nutter after all...
22:14 September 5, 2010 by Jan M
Simply a graphic illustration of what an equal society delivers. The world's richest city at the time, NY, was only made safe by zero tolerance policing and an AIDS pandemic. I'm not sure for all those who believe that privatisation and personal aspiration alone will achieve a better society actually know what that looks like if taken to its' logical conclusion. In relation to Sweden I think most of them have some fantasy hybrid in mind in which the State still takes responsibility for everything and provides services in return for very low taxes and maximum personal freedom to make money. That's called greed or madness but it's certainly never going to be reality.
22:48 September 5, 2010 by americanska
Jan - if they cut out 90% of the "welfare state" spending it would provide exactly what you think is impossible.

you are one crazy person - an AIDS pandemic brought peace to New York??? Yea that's why Africa is so peaceful. Fact - A conservative mayor and good law enforcement did that. Law enforcement is one of the 2 things that the government actually needs to invest in for society to work. The over one is Defense.

While the Social Democrats put murderers away for 2 years and give out all kinds of money to useless people that give nothing back to society.
02:51 September 6, 2010 by engagebrain
'17:54 September 5, 2010 by rugla

Common guys,

Look a Switzerland, low taxes more disposable income, more companies more money for infrastructure, services and other things.'

Switzerland is the repository for the globe's hot money both private and commercial.

Companies that operate all over europe somehow only make a profit in Switzerland.

Basically Switzerland leeches off the rest of the world.
06:20 September 6, 2010 by theibmsstate2000
ALLIANCE is good party. but sweden has to change thier rules and regulation in many things.the main thing in sweden is they dont speak english and they cannt speak english.they wont accept immigrant either skilled or investers.i hope they will change thier policy.

i dont have much knowledge what you propose whos the best because i am thinking to give vote to fredrick
07:44 September 6, 2010 by flintis
@ misssh: "don't look at the mantelpiece when poking the fire"

Wonder where this pole was conducted, although as long as the SD are hooked up with the loony left they're gonna lose votes
11:00 September 6, 2010 by rumcajs
Sida vid sida, tillsammans stryker de fram

staten och kapitalet, två vargar fromma som lamm

fast det är inte dom som ror, som ror så att svetten lackar

och piskan som kittlar, kittlar inte heller

deras feta nackar.
11:58 September 6, 2010 by Audrian
Privatization might appear to reduce tax burden in the short run. In the long run the cost of running services rises from wage costs, drugs and insurance costs, prompting private cares to pass the cost buden to the public. This latter cost is much larger than the tax burden of a socialized care.
13:59 September 6, 2010 by RobinHood
There is good privatization and bad privatization. There is good nationalization and bad nationlization.

The trick is to focus on the good and bad parts, not the privatization and nationalization parts.

If it's good, nobody cares if it's public or private. You'll have to go a long way to find a hospital patient who prefers a bad public hospital to a good private one, or a bad private hospital to a good public one.

Swedes seem to have the knack of making good privatizations. From the perspective of the sick, St Görans and Apoteket have gone well so far, if they cost more or less, who cares, especially if it's you being wheeled in for heart surgery.
10:25 September 7, 2010 by samwise
for those of you who despise "profit", do you get paid for your work at all? if so, is there some "profit" included in the pay cheque? or it's all fair compensation of your hard work? but the fellow running your next door pizza shop makes a "profit" and it's so unfair?

all you think about is serving people when you work? nothing about like making some money?
16:46 September 7, 2010 by Syftfel
If the social democrats are suffering in the polls it is because Swedes are realizing the Mona's brand of orwellian marxism long ago ceased to be a viable political alternative. Their dictatorial, forced, edicts are hostile to liberty, and do not strike the fancy of Sweden. Save for a short period after WWII, it never really did. Hence it is now time to abandon anything remotely resembling "socialdemokratiizn" and go for a more fair and juste society. A society where it will pay to work and where nothing automatically comes for free, (save for extreme circumstances). Everyone must contribute, including the lazy, knowitall, overpaid, politicians on the left. Let the anti-socialist backlash begin. Throw the social democrat party on the scrap heap of history and let the cherry on top of it be a picture of that rat, a certain prime minister of the 60s and 70s. See you at the polls on the 19th.
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