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The Local · 22 Sep 2010, 18:45

Published: 22 Sep 2010 18:45 GMT+02:00

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James Savage, Wednesday September 22, 10:13pm

Things aren’t looking good for the Alliance. They picked up one extra seat thanks to advance and overseas ballots, and now have 173 seats, against 175 for the four opposition parties (the Red-Greens plus the Sweden Democrats).

The Liberals failed by the smallest of margins to take seats in Värmland (which they missed by seven votes) and Gothenburg (which they missed by nine votes). The Centre Party picked up one seat in Dalarna, which means the Alliance is only two seats from an overall majority. Close, but not close enough.

There remains a theoretical possibility that the Alliance could take two national ‘adjustment seats’ - seats allocated on a national basis. But according to the ubiquitous Svante Linusson, a professor in Mathematics from the Royal Institute of Technology quoted by almost every newspaper (when was the last time a mathematician was in such media demand?), there is virtually no chance of this happening.

What then remains is the possibility of appeal. Given the closeness of the result and the high stakes involved, it would be incredible if the parties didn’t immediately start poring over the details of the counts to look for irregularities.

Appeals are heard by the ‘Valprövningsnämnd’, a committee appointed by the current Riksdag and chaired by a judge. But these appeals won’t be heard for at least a month - and Sweden needs a new government within a week.

So, short of a miracle or surprise defections, the Alliance will have to do deals to get its legislation through.

For the first time since the current Swedish electoral system was introduced, it has thrown up a government with the majority of the national votes, but without a majority of the seats.

Fredrik Reinfeldt has been set the toughest challenge of his career.

That’s it from us for this evening, but we’ll be back on the case early tomorrow morning.


David Landes, Wednesday September 22, 10:13pm

According to the Swedish Election Authority website, results from 6,054 of the 6,036 electoral districts have been certified. Looking at the percentages as compared with the election night results, the Moderates have inched up from 30.0 to 30.1 percent of the vote and the Social Democrats have dropped from 30.9 to 30.7 percent of the vote, bringing Sweden’s two largest parties even closer to parity.

The Green Party’s overall percentage also crept up from 7.2 to 7.3 percent of the votes.

But the percentages are rather academic at this point, as the ultimate distribution of seats--and power--in the Riksdag has come down to a few dozen votes in three districts: Dalarna, Gothenburg, and Värmland.

Currently, the Alliance remains two seats shy of an absolute majority of 175 seats in the Riksdag. While the Centre Party picked up a seat in Dalarna, bringing the total for the Alliance up to 173, the Liberal Party lost out on winning a seat in Gothenburg -- by just 4 votes, meaning there will be a recount.

Results from Värmland, the other contested district, haven't come in yet, leaving the Alliance with one more seats than had on election night, but still facing the prospect of governing with a minority.

So it looks like Sweden’s politicos are heading toward one more night of fitful sleep. As they toss and turn into the wee hours of Thursday morning, they’ll no doubt be pondering the various scenarios they may face depending on the whims held by a handful of Swedes, many of whom live overseas, when they dropped their advance ballots in the mail in the days prior to the election.

And let’s not forget the officials at the various county administrative boards around the country who continue to count ballots as fast as their fingers (or the machines) will let them in hopes of bringing closure to this extended electoral drama. They probably won't be getting much sleep tonight either.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson, Wednesday September 22, 9:56pm

After 6049 of the 6063 electoral districts have been counted, the four Alliance parties look to have accumulated more votes that the combined opposition (encompassing both the Red-Greens and the Sweden Democrats).

But as a consequence of the complex division of seats in the election system, they still do not have an absolute majority in the Riksdag.

This is the first time that this has occurred under the current Swedish electoral system.

David Landes, Wednesday September 22, 9:48pm

If you're just joining us, or tuning in again for the first time since Monday, here are a few stories from the last couple of days to bring you up to speed on the not-quite-yet-finished Swedish election results:

Sept. 20: Election marks 'end of an era': Swedish press

Sept. 20: Moderates and Greens call for time

Sept. 21: Alliance majority 'still possible' as results lag

Sept. 21: Greens still in hot seat ahead of final tally

Sept. 22: Election results could turn on 298 votes

Peter Vinthagen Simpson, Wednesday September 22, 9:27pm

The speaker of Sweden's Riksdag, Per Westerberg has come in for criticism for comments in a Sveriges Radio interview taken to imply that he suggested that the parliament is in a similar situation with the Sweden Democrats as with the New Democracy (Ny Demkrati) in 1991, a rightist, populist party which propped up the centre-right government under Carl Bildt.

The comments have drawn criticism from the Social Democrats' Sven-Erik Österberg and praise from the Sweden Democrats who have interpreted the comments to mean that Westerberg suggests that the mainstream parties should work with them.

Westerberg has replied this evening that he is well aware that it is not the speaker's job to have an opinion on which parties should work with whom.

James Savage, Wednesday September 22, 6:37pm

The Liberal Party - and by extension the Alliance - has lost one seat it needed to gain in Gothenburg to the Social Democrats - by just four votes. These will now be recounted, and with the result hanging by such a small margin, the result could easily change.

This follows the news that gains by the Left Party in Dalarna mean that the Centre Party has taken a seat from the Social Democrats.

More results are expected this evening.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson, Monday, September 20, 5:37pm

The working day after election day starts to draw to a close with more questions raised than answers given.

The issue of how Sweden's next government is to be formed remains an open question with Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt stating his intention to open talks with a Green Party that has offered only the slightest indication of reciprocity, instead calling for broad participation of all parliamentary parties in talks.

Reinfeldt however has insisted that he is prepared to push on with forming a minority government, which is, despite some of the heated rhetoric on Monday, more the rule than the exception in Swedish politics.

The Stockholm stock market appeared to take the election result and ongoing uncertainty in its stride, with both small gains in the main indices and a strengthening of the Swedish krona.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson, 4:33pm

Demonstrations are set to be held in Stockholm and Malmö on Monday in a show of solidarity for the country's immigrant population after the Sweden Democrats secured parliamentary seats.

Thousands of Swedes are expected to assemble on Sergels torg in central Stockholm at 6pm to voice their displeasure after the election.

Vivian Tse, 3:37pm

Around the world, Sweden's election result was considered a top story on news sites on Monday, according to a survey conducted by news agency TT.

Reuters and AFP topped their headlines at noon with the news of how the centre-right Swedish government succeeded in the historic feat of winning re-election, but disappointingly, have lost their majority rule and have ended up in the hands of Sweden's first anti-immigration party.

The story also topped news coverage by television channel Al-Jazeera and was high in priority among US television channels such as CNN and CBS News, but not with competitor ABC.

German newsweekly Der Spiegel ran running a web videos high on its website, as did daily newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. Both The Telegraph and The Guardian in the UK have listed the news that in the day's top 10, as did Spain's El Mundo and France's Le Monde.

Italy's Corriere della Sera followed up with an interview with Sweden Democrat leader Jimmie Åkesson under the heading "Non siamo razzisti. Per gli stranieri non c'è piu posto," which roughly translates into, "We are not racists, but for immigrants, there is no longer space."

David Landes, 3:27pm

Following several hours of talks on Monday, the Social Democratic leadership emerged Wednesday afternoon to say they planned to from a special crisis group to analyze what went wrong in the election campaign and to come up with ideas for how the party can regain their role as a major progressive force in Swedish politics.

Mona Sahlin was asked if participating in the Red-Green opposition coalition may have contributed to the loss.

“I don’t know,” she told TT, saying that it was clear from the numbers that it had an impact, but it would take more analysis to know exactly how.

“I’m sure if we hadn’t established the red-green cooperation during this past parliamentary term, things would have looked different, and the possibilities for challenging the centre-right government would have been very small.”

Vivian Tse, 3:08pm

Anti-immigrant Danish People's Party leader Pia Kjærsgaard has called Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt "embarrassing" in a radio interview in Denmark on Monday.

"It is embarrassing when Fredrik Reinfeldt does not want to act on the voters' choice and collaborate with the Sweden Democrats," Kjærsgaard told Danmarks Radio after the Swedish elections.

Although Kjærsgaard stumped for the Sweden Democrats in southern Skåne, she stopped short of calling it a sister party.

"We do not know each other so well yet," she said.

However, the treatment of the Sweden Democrats reminded her of the problems her own party faced in the beginning.

"They have been exposed to such large absurdities that one almost does not believe his own ears and eyes," she said. "it shows that the Swedish democracy, unfortunately, does not work.

After the 1998 elections, nobody wanted to take in her party, even with "fire tongs." However, since the 2001 election, when the current Left-Conservative took office, the party has had a "solid and credible co-operation" with the government.

Her advice to Sweden Democrat leaders on how to approach the other parties in parliament is accordingly based on personal experience.

"Just take it easy. It will be all right," she said.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson, 2:07pm

Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt holds a press conference at the government offices.

Reinfeldt described the election as "mixed" for both coalitions, but underlined that a significant shift had occurred in Swedish politics since 2002 and 2010. After the elections last time around the Moderates were coming to terms with 15 percent support, with their status as second party in threat, but in 2010 the party had closed to near equilibrium.

Reinfeldt expressed regret over the advance of the Sweden Democrats, saying that 7,000 votes was the difference between them occupying a kingmaker role and remaining out in the political cold. He underlined meanwhile that he would not make an Alliance minority government dependent on the anti-immigrant party.

Green Party spokerspersons Peter Eriksson and Maria Wetterstrand held a press conference immediately after and challenged Reinfeldt to open discussions with all "seven" parliamentary parties, in order to exclude the eighth - Sweden Democrats - from any form of influence on government power.

Maria Wetterstrand argued the Green Party's voters had not given them any mandate to open direct negotiations with the Alliance, nor to sit in government with them or cooperate with them.

David Landes, 1:55pm

Wanja Lundby-Wedin, the head of the Trade Union Confederation (LO), Sweden's largest trade union group, hinted that Mona Sahlin appears set to remain as the Social Democrats' party leader.

Walking out of a meeting of the party's top-brass which has been going on since the start of the day, Lundby-Wedin told TT that there was no discussion of whether Sahlin should continue as party leader.

"There wasn't anyone who said anything other than that it’s obvious that the party leaders should remain," she told TT.

Most of the party's regional leaders also continue to express their support for Sahlin, according to TT.

One political scientist, Li Bennich-Björkman, however, sees Sahlin's status as "uncertain," while another, Ulf Bjereld, said Sahlin would likely be safe in the short term, arguing that it was the party as a whole and its policies, rather than the leader, which caused the poor election performance.

"The Social Democrats failed to give shape to policies which preserve traditional Social Democratic core values like freedom, equality, and solidarity but which are still valid in the new society," said Bjereld.

Vivian Tse, 1:48pm

The Sweden Democrats advanced throughout the country, news agency TT reported, citing a survey of all 29 parliamentary constituencies. As before, the party is most popular in the southern parts of the country, with some districts polling double digit support.

In Skåne county's northern and eastern regions, support for the Sweden Democrats peaked at 11.2 percent. In other parts of Skåne and Blekinge, support for the party reached 9 to 10 percent. The Sweden Democrats are also popular in Malmö municipality with 8 percent.

In the rest of the country, support in Dalarna stands out in particular, where the Sweden Democrats received 7 percent of votes. Otherwise, the further north one goes in the country, the less popular the party is.

The party achieved its success despite backing in its strongest municipality, Landskrona, slipping. There, the Sweden Democrats received 22.3 percent of the votes in the last general election, a figure that dropped to 15.8 percent on Sunday night.

In five parliamentary constituencies, the Sweden Democrats missed the 4 percent threshold to enter parliament: Västerbotten, Norrbotten, Jämtland and Gotland counties and Stockholm municipality. There, the party received only 2.7 to 3.8 percent.

During the 2006 election, the situation was reversed. Then, the Sweden Democrats reached the four percent margin in only five of the 29 constituencies.

There is not yet a clear of where the party has won city at the county and municipal level, but judging by all appearances, the Sweden Democrats also achieved a breakthrough on a broad front on both levels as well.

The party's electoral success will come at a personal price at the local level, anti-racist magazine Expo insists. The party has no representatives in at least 27 different political posts throughout Sweden. In 20 municipalities, the party does not have enough candidates.

Vivian Tse, 1:21pm

The Stockholm Stock Exchange absorbed the uncertain election result with little disruption on Monday morning, rising slightly at midday, in line with markets around the world, while the krona remained stable against both the euro and the dollar.

"It is hard to notice that there were elections. It looks if anything as if were a long weekend," Olof Manner, Scandinavian interest director at Royal Bank of Scotland, told news agency TT. "There is a certain wait and see approach to this. However, it is not particularly nervous."

He expects the centre-right Alliance coalition to continue to seek support from the Green Party, but could also see it trying to govern with support from various parties on various issues.

According to Manner, the Green Party's aversive attitude towards Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt's invitation to work together is a normal part of a bargaining game.

"It goes with it. It does not change the situation," he said.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson, 1:12pm

It is being reported that Sweden Democrat leader Jimmie Åkesson has met with the speaker of Sweden's Riksdag, Per Westerberg.

The speaker is the leader of the house and is the Riksdag's foremost representative. The Swedish constitution assigns the role of speaker as the highest elected office in Sweden, above the prime minister and below only the head of state, the King - who holds no formal powers.

One of the speaker's most important tasks is to lead the negotiations when a government changes and to present candidates for prime minister.

Fredrik Reinfeldt has said that the Alliance plans to govern on, with himself as prime minister. While the speaker will give Reinfeldt the task to try to form a government, it is procedure to sound out all parliamentary party leaders to establish the likelyhood of him (or any other chosen candidate) being able to do so.

The speaker thus met with Åkesson as a matter of course, and will presumably sound out all party leaders during the course of coming days.

While Åkesson used the focus on his meeting with the speaker to demand to be contacted by the main parties, it remains unlikely that they will do so with Alliance party leaders categorically dismissing any opening for SD within, or in support of, the government.

The Green Party meanwhile has rejected early overtures from Reinfeldt to open discussions and spokesperson Maria Wetterstrand has reacted angrily to the Moderates placing responsibility of solving the issue of governance in their lap.

Comment: These opening salvoes should be seen a part of the elaborate flirtation process of forming a stable government in Sweden. While the Green Party has declared that it will not play the role of support party to the Moderates, they are likely to be open to hear what the government has to say.

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The Red-Green coalition, having existed for less than two years is not as established and integrated as the Alliance and the election result indicates that it is not a successful recipe for persuading the Swedish electorate or the respective party's suitability to govern.

Vivian Tse, 1:09pm

Although the Green Party's spokespeople were adamant that they would not enter a discussion with the ruling Alliance to help them form a majority government on election night, spokesman Peter Eriksson seemed to have changed his tune in an interview with Sveriges Radio on Monday morning, according to a TT news agency report.

The latest developments take place as the speaker of Sweden's parliament, the Riksdag, Per Westerberg met Sweden Democrat leader Jimmie Åkesson.

"We have to be able to converse with each other after an election result that is unclear," Eriksson told SR's news bulletin Ekot. "However, it is reasonable that we wait until the election results are finished. It can still change to some extent based on the votes that are counted on Wednesday."

"Our interpretation of what [Prime Minister Fredrik] Reinfeldt says is that he says that the Alliance will continue to rule and it worries me because I think they underestimate the problems in the situation. However, we will see what he has to say," he added.

"It is very difficult now. We have been very clear that we want a Red-Green majority after the election since our voters count on us essentially sticking to the line."

Both Eriksson and colleague Wetterstrand hesitated to work with the Alliance even if Reinfeldt offered ministerial posts

Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt has not yet made any statements on Monday. Last night, he reiterated that his party will make with the Green Party and that he hoped for a positive response.

David Landes, 12:24pm

The TT news agency reports that an openly Nazi party, Svenskarnas Parti (‘The Swedes’ Party’), has earned a spot on the local council in Grästorp, a municipality of with about 3,000 residents in western Sweden.

The party used to be called the National Socialist Front (NSF), and the 102 votes it received were enough for it to place a representative on the council.

Centre Party council chair Roger Andersson called the development “regrettable”.

David Landes, 12:16pm

The Expressen tabloid is reporting that Reinfeldt plans to ditch two ministers from the current government: financial markets minister Mats Odell and infrastructure minister Åsa Torstensson.

As both Odell’s party, the Christian Democrats, and Torstensson’s Centre Party posted lower results in 2010 than in 2006 – both dropping about one percent, it follows that the two smallest parties in the Alliance will lose a minister post, the paper reports, citing sources close to the prime minister

Comment: freeing up the infrastructure minister post may also be part of Reinfeldt’s strategy to reach out to the Greens, who see infrastructure spending as a key tool in promoting more eco-friendly transit options. While no formal offer has been mentioned, it’s an open question as to whether the Green’s Maria Wetterstrand or Peter Eriksson would sit comfortably as ministers in a centre-right government.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson, 11:50am

Lena Sundström, who is a journalist, commentator and author of a book analysing the advance of the Danish People's Party, argues that the success of the Sweden Democrats needs to be put into perspective.

"I don't think their success is due to the reluctance of the mainstream parties to talk about the superiority of the white race," Sundström told TV4 this morning and warned on the one hand for allowing a normalisation of the type of argumentation that the Sweden Democrats (SD) adopt, and on the other of a media reluctance to fully subject SD to the same inspection as for the mainstream parties.

Sundström brings up the example of the news that 50 people with connections to the white power movement were on the SD municipal lists, and the media were happy to accept a dismissal from SD youth leader Erik Almqvist that is was "unimportant".

"This would never have been accepted from the mainstream parties," Sundström observed.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson, 11:36am

SNS – an independent network of leading decision makers – is holding a half day seminar to analyse the election.

Olof Pettersson, political scientist and SNS advisor, spoke about the dramatic shift that the election signifies for Swedish politics – with the decline of the Social Democrats and the retention of power by the centre-right. The Social Democrats have, for the first time in a century, become just another party, he argued.

He forecast that the Sweden Democrats, as a party which has build up its organisation over several election campaigns, are here to stay if the mainstream parties do not begin to take the issues that they raise seriously.

Bert Karlsson, who was one of the leaders of Ny Demokrati – the last anti-immigrant party that had a brief dalliance in parliament after the 1991 election – speaking on SVT on Sunday argued in the same vein when he observed that the Liberal Party has tried but has been treated with suspicion as a result.

David Landes, 11:13 a.m.

It's Monday morning and Sweden is waking up to a new political dawn. The previously unquestioned dominance of the Social Democrats appears to be over for good. In addition, the far-right, anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats are set to take 20 of 349 seats in the Riksdag, legitimizing a new and controversial voice in Swedish politics.

And if that weren't enough, the election results yielded no clear governing majority, leaving Sweden in a state of parliamentary uncertainty and extended the drama of an election that has already provided its share of excitement and intrigue.

Moderate Party leader, who is charged with forming a government, has signaled he wants to begin talks with the Green Party, but remains vague about how those discussions may proceed.

His overtures have so far received a cold reception from Green Party leaders Maria Wetterstrand and Peter Eriksson, but it remains to be seen if they can be wooed to join forces with the center-right in order to isolate the Sweden Democrats.

And the Social Democrats are holed up in a crisis meeting at their party headquarters on Sveavägen in downtown Stockholm.

"We're going to discuss the election results and the chaos in the Riksdag," party leaders Mona Sahlin told the TT news agency.

So stay tuned as Local journalists Peter Vinthagen Simpson, Vivian Tse, and myself work to keep you abreast of the day's developments.

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Your comments about this article

12:10 September 20, 2010 by Markus D
What´s Mr Reinfeldt's problem with SD?

I would say they are a lot closer to them than the Greens!

The Greens in Sweden are left-wing totally!

Please explain somebody.

I can understand people saying SD´s are extreme, but look, when an extreme party gets involved in serious, mature discussion on policies etc with mainstream parties, they become a lot more rational and balanced.
12:51 September 20, 2010 by Audrian
Don't yet discount Social Democrats or the left in general. Politics under capitalism is moving from left to right and then from right to left. All over Europe right wing parties, are dominant; in this respect Sweden is not a unique country. That is, right wing parties, which work along corporations and banks and act as their mouthpiece, are dominant. Fringe or fascist parties, might not be able to take power in Europe, but they can influence the politics of the right wing, e.g., the ruling parties of France and Italy have adopted the extreme view of Fascist parties! In France Roma people were deported in the last few weeks. In Italy police brutality against Roma people and minorities is well recorded.

The politics of the right wing is dominated with disinformation, which often divides workers and confuses the middle class. Under the present scenario, it is easy to continue to undertake privatization of industries and businesses regardless of the merit of the argument against privatization. For example, it is well known that the participation of the private in the health sector makes health care wasteful and expensive, e.g., US, Brazil and Chile, and yet Sweden's privatization of hospitals and pharmaceutical outlets is taking place in Sweden without any serious debate on the subject.
13:01 September 20, 2010 by Markus D
Audrian, excuse me, but the Social Democrats have been ruling Sweden almost continually for the last 70 years.

On Sunday, the people of Sweden DID DISCOUNT them in no uncertain terms.

13:04 September 20, 2010 by calebian22

The Roma expulsions in France are Roma of primarily Bulgarian and Romanian citizenship. France has a law, that if you don't have a work permit, you have to go home after 3 months. No work permit, go home. What is the problem?
13:05 September 20, 2010 by Mirrorman
but the Social Democrats were the largest party. wishful thinking by the right wing press and the ignorant.
13:07 September 20, 2010 by Markus D
Mirrorman - please explain what you mean?
13:10 September 20, 2010 by RobinHood

Mr Reinfeldt's problem is the difference between the public's perception of the Sweden Democrats and the Greens. He can absorb the Greens into the Alliance without too much fuss, but if he does a deal with the Swedish Democrats, the Alliance will break up immedietly and his own party will collapse.

He can't touch the Swedish Democrats with a nine foot pole, and neither can the Social Democrats.
13:10 September 20, 2010 by the fonz
Which ever side of politics you are on you have to admit that a lot of people voted for the SD party. Therefore one can conclude that something in their message is of great importance to the public. By ignoring this the main parties are guilty of neglecting their duties. They are there to represent the wishes of the population, however much they don't like a particular subject.

To be clear - I am not agreeing with the SD's message but I am defending their right to voice it and the right of the 5.7% that voted for them to also be heard.

Ignoring these people will probably be seen as undemocratic and will only make them stronger.
13:17 September 20, 2010 by Markus D

I think you´ll find that a lot of the "public perception" of the SD that is so negative is largely due to the media and the politicians demonising them for years.

I think The Fonz´s post is useful .
13:18 September 20, 2010 by miss79
well, is good miljöpartiet ignore them..since reinfeldt is crazy for power so let him work the the Sverigedemokraterna
13:20 September 20, 2010 by Markus D
OK Mirrorman, what was the size of those 2 parties say, 8 years ago, or 15 years ago.

Can´t you see Sweden has made a change? this election result is a watershed for the nation.

(and you don´t need to use bad language thanks)
13:20 September 20, 2010 by KungsholmenGuy
Reinfeldt and Sahlin both promised to not work wih the SD's. They can make good on this promise by each appointing members of parliments who, on every vote, are instructed simply vote to nullify the vote of the SD members of parliment, so that the SD's influence is effectively reduced to zero for all matters that are put to a vote.

The problem for Sahlin of course is that this would lead to a majority government for Reinfeldt, and she would never do this because she wants to weaken Reinfeldt, not strengthen his rule.

So the best option is now for Reinfeldt to make a compromise with the Miljöpartiet, say offer 5 nulear reactors and the rest generated by wind power, rather than 10 nuclear reactors. The MP's can then rightfully tell their supporters that, through their influence, the number of nuclear reactors was cut in half, and Reinfeldt (and Sweden) benefit from the stability of majority rule.
13:21 September 20, 2010 by Youdee
you have to admit that a lot of people voted for the SD party. >>Did they really? I wonder how many persons confused Soc Dem with Sve Dem on the ballots. I'm not defending or arguing anything here: just curious.
13:23 September 20, 2010 by RobinHood

The public's perception of the Sweden Democrats, is what it is, whatever the reason, and whether you agree with it or not. The Swedish Democrats are political poison for any mainsteam party, and they must either change the public's perception and make themselves more palatable, or learn to live as political outcasts.
13:29 September 20, 2010 by rumcajs
@markus d,

Even if they have now 20 seats, they're still very little compared with the Moderates and the Social Democrats. If Reinfeldt invites the SD to make a gov with them, in 4 years they'd get like 15% and not the 30.


100% with you mate. The whole world is ruled at this moment by capitalism in it's worst shape and even people who used to vote for the left are know affraid of going broke due to a left goverment giving money to "the lazy ones". They have misinformed to such a point that some people have told me that they don't like this or that just cos it's leftish, but when I ask what's the problem with it... they don't even know.
13:35 September 20, 2010 by Markus D

Yes I can count, even the difference between 30.0 and 30.9.

There´s a big difference between those numbers isn´t there?

Using bad language is a sign of weakness in a person.
13:42 September 20, 2010 by lasse12345
I like the post by the fonz. That is very true. While one might not agree with their opinion it is their democratic right to have it. I think many people miss that point.

I find the curse-word posts by mirrorman boring and they make me just want to support the opposite of whatever he is saying.
13:44 September 20, 2010 by Audrian
@ calebian, please read the strongly worded report by European court of human right and it determination to bring the case to court.

@Markus D, the cycle I am talking about can be 20 years or 70 years in the case of Sweden (which enjoyed exceptional stability and prosperity). This dominance is broken because we are in the era of medicore level of prosperity. It is likely that Sweden will begin to be more like other European countries whose politics shift from say 10 to 30 years.
13:47 September 20, 2010 by Markus D
Audrian- do you live in Sweden?
14:21 September 20, 2010 by Birbun
If Reinfeldt won't able to form a government, change the electoral system law in the way to give a premium in seats to the most voted coalition and go again to elections.
15:42 September 20, 2010 by GefleFrequentFlyer
^^^ Correct.

Reinfeldt, despite what he is saying out loud, would like to work with the sweden democrats as he is closer to them politically than anyone else. But, he is also aware he will lose from his own party coalition if he does so.

I say, GO FOR IT!

I'm so happy for sweden, they have finally woken up. I look forward to coming back next year.
17:12 September 20, 2010 by calebian22

I have read it. The Roma were in violation of French law. They were sent home to their country of origin. End of controversy.
18:11 September 20, 2010 by fouzison
it seems that the swedish democrats played on sensible issues in order to enter the parliament.but what do they suggest in order to solve the financial crisis, to increase the swedish krona, to face up the multinationals who destroyed the welfare state...... I think that they sould have thought with reason and not with feelings of Hitler.

tak tak
20:20 September 20, 2010 by moreanon
"Reuters and AFP topped their headlines at noon with the news of how the centre-right Swedish government succeeded in the historic feat of winning re-election, but disappointingly, have lost their majority rule and have ended up in the hands of Sweden's first anti-immigration party."

There have been other anit-immigration parties, such as New Democracy in the 1990s.

"Reinfeldt expressed regret over the advance of the Sweden Democrats, saying that 7,000 was the difference between them being in parliament and remaining out in the political cold."

Unless there is some regional threshold on top of the national threshold this 7000 figure is wrong. Turnout was 7,123,651. The 4% threshold was 284,946 votes and the Sweden Democrats got 330,157. That's a difference of 45,210.
22:50 September 20, 2010 by Bender B Rodriquez
@Audrian: I'm not so sure about that. S has decreased tha last 40 years. In 1968 they had a majority government with >50% votes. In the 80s they went down to 45%, In the 90s they went below 40%. Now they are at 30%.

It is directly proportional to a growing middle class of white collar workers.
01:41 September 21, 2010 by mieoux
Sverigedemokratena!?!?! F@ck them!
20:04 September 22, 2010 by Audrian
@ Bonder B Rodriquez

Sweden is a wealthy country; it was more wealthy in 1970s when oil was dirt cheap.

Do not hope Sweden's GDP per capita would grow indefinitely. It might occilate around an average but not grow in real terms. Sweden has reached the limit. Eastern Europe might grow to catch up but not countries like Sweden).

The consequence of a right wing government, given existing GDP, is redistribution of income from working people and those with fixed income to the most weathy section of Swedish society. (By and large tax cut means rise income for the wealth class and less service for the ordinary person. Price rise during inflation means lower standard for people with fixed income and pensioners). When social democrates were on power (left wing) the opposite had happened.

In a short time (under right wing government) you will see a level of poverty Swedish people have not seen in their receant history. At the same time you may also see a few number of people with excessive wealth.
20:31 September 22, 2010 by Marko2010S
It is just sad to see my country has parties named "Anti.....".

The future with such goons isn't promising nor stable. I am afraid that there will be parties named "Anti-Humans", "Anti-Honor", "Anti-Loyality".....
21:28 September 22, 2010 by Argentina84
Adrian thank you for your posts! I'm 100% with you. It's a shame to see so many people misinformed in Sweden.
16:06 September 24, 2010 by Mo
17:01 September 25, 2010 by jazzIIIlove

You become a celebrity in this thread and you are right.
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