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'Hell is worse for women bishops': Swedish pastor

Peter Vinthagen Simpson · 4 Nov 2010, 12:41

Published: 04 Nov 2010 12:41 GMT+01:00

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Per Linderoth, a pastor within the diocese of Linköping, is set to be assessed for his competence as a pastor after comments made at a pastors' convention in Söderköping in eastern Sweden.

"God's words fall flat (or dead) to the ground when a female pastor preaches. It may not bear any ripe fruit," said Linderoth, according to the Bishop of Linköping, Martin Lind.

Linderoth continued to elaborate on his view of female pastors, arguing that they were "not of the correct element" and that they were "impotent preachers."

However, his most severe condemnation was reserved for women who have achieved the position of bishop.

"If there are degrees of punishment in hell, then it is worse for women bishops that women pastors," he said to the assembled convention of religious representatives.

Linderoth's comments were made to the assembled convention and, according to Lind, formed part of a deliberate protest.

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Two other pastors, Kurt Enström and Torbjörn Sjöberg, have also been reported to the diocese and will have their suitability as pastors within the Church of Sweden reviewed.

According to church documents dated October 27th, the matter had not yet been dealt with by the diocese.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson (news@thelocal.se)

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16:17 November 4, 2010 by facetedjewel
"If there are degrees of punishment in hell, then it is worse for women bishops that women pastors," he said to the assembled convention of religious representatives.

IF there are degrees of punishment in hell? I thought men of gawd tended toward 'certainty'? Hell, I've heard, is an equal opportunity pit of torment and damnation. There's no 'Ladies Night' and other gender-based niceties. So, was Pastor Linderoth passed up for promotion by a woman perhaps, or just trying to preemptively avoid promotion now (and the fire and brimstone that goes with the position)?
16:30 November 4, 2010 by Swedesmith
Preachers like this are what turn people off to religion.
16:45 November 4, 2010 by Rebel
So he might lose his job due to his expressing his opinion? Oh well, this is of course Sweden -- land of conformity.
17:04 November 4, 2010 by RobinHood
This is nonsense. Everybody knows the worst place in Hell is reserved for tele-marketing callers.
17:39 November 4, 2010 by Nemesis
Anther religeous nut, who hates women. Nothing knew there.
18:12 November 4, 2010 by calebian22
Why is the Local using a stock photo of the nutbags from the Westboro Baptist Church?
18:53 November 4, 2010 by Nemesis
@ calebian22

Who better than nutbag stock:)
19:25 November 4, 2010 by laura ka baal
What about Gay Pastor.
19:32 November 4, 2010 by Swedesmith
I'm surprised that The Local has stock photos of religious nutbags but no stock footage of bear poop laced with lingonberries. Their photo library must not be very sophisticated.
19:39 November 4, 2010 by zircon
Please read Dante's Divine Comedy.
22:29 November 4, 2010 by Nemesis
@ zircon

Got it in one:)
23:49 November 4, 2010 by svenskamerikansk
use of that Fred Phelps nutcase group photo is journalistic malpractice.
00:30 November 5, 2010 by JoshArnold
okay ... so christianity ordains subjugation of women ? it doesnot treat women as normal human beings ???

I am sure if such a gender baised statement was made by a

Muslim cleric ... then NO ONE would have ever considered the fact that th person making th statement is retard... every would one would have just been smearing Islam and the rest of th Muslims
00:55 November 5, 2010 by Tusker
Pastor Linderoth's behaviour is disgraceful and goes against the very principles of the organisation that provides him a safe and comfortable life.

I'm no holy roller, and you would only know that I am a Christian, from my dog tags, but in my travels it has been an honour to meet some remarkable women of faith, providing healthcare, charity and spiritual support to the very most vulnerable and damaged of our fellow humans, often in places of great danger and with minimal support and recognition.

He has obviously overlooked the great personal attribute of humility, and would be well advised to get on his knees and seek the forgiveness of those he would humiliate.
02:37 November 5, 2010 by ajs42548
Can you feel the love? What would Christ say?
05:04 November 5, 2010 by Jarvilainennen
Lindebroth, Enströmsen & Sjöburgare wish to be expelled, so they may be escorted out with horns tooting for their departure.

I´m sure they´ll find a place with many, many, people of the same wiew. Who knows, it might even yield a better pay check?

Conservative sect leaders often get loads of currency for talking sh*it like that. I should come up with one of my own. There´s allways people to be bullshi*tted.

#8 Laalaa:

How about a transvestite bishop? Or a Judas Priest?
07:32 November 5, 2010 by crofab
God is dead, but bigotry lives on.
08:53 November 5, 2010 by wolverine2k
Typical religion: A mortal has assumptions on something supernatural and talks on behalf of God! And the whole covenant thing, I never understood that. Why would God the almighty all powerful being need a covenant with insignificant human being?
08:59 November 5, 2010 by SarahRF
His attitude has nothing to do with Christianity, nor is it based on biblical teachings. True, there is one passage in the New Testament that says women should not be teachers/preachers, BUT many people don't take that in the historical context. At the time of writing, there were women who were spreading a twisted gospel, basically a "women are all powerful" type, and Paul was condemning THEIR teaching, not the teaching/preaching abilities of ALL women.

What saddens me is while his competence will be reviewed, it won't be reviewed with right Christian doctrine in mind, but instead it'll be reviewed with "equality for women in the workplace" in mind. I'm not saying I agree with the pastor, I think women can be and should be allowed to be bishops and pastors. But they probably won't come to that conclusion based on observations and Bible study, they'll get there out of "everything fair for everyone".
10:14 November 5, 2010 by calebian22

After the Tsunami in Thailand, the WBC made headlines in the US, with their God hates Sweden, slogans. At the time, they had a live chat option on their website. I spent a little time chit chatting with one of their members. The healine grabbing statements of Phelps are nothing in comparison to the vitriol spewed by his true believers. Rationality is not a word that has any meaning.
12:05 November 5, 2010 by Baldric
What is the punishment for a person who aspire to bend God's will and word after their own?
15:26 November 5, 2010 by Tanskalainen
Back to Odin Swedes.
07:31 November 6, 2010 by christfollower
dont know about the hell issue but

Scripture is clear " in the church women is not to have authority over man".

dont like it leave.
17:39 November 6, 2010 by shepherdess
I'tm no theologian (not because I'm a woman)... but most who read the bible more than 1x in their life, know that it says the old testament is considered to include types and shadows of the fulfilled realities in the new testament. In the old there were MORE than one example of women "shepherdess" which are symbols Pastors and leaders. And to "christfollower" above... what do you think about old testament Deborah gave battle instructions to General Barak... and he replied to her "I will not go" (into battle) unless Deborah went with... and the general of the enemy army was taken down by a woman" I wouldn't exactly say that God doesn't trust women to lead...
22:59 November 6, 2010 by christfollower
If the LORD Jesus had meant for women to be pastors,priests or bishops dont you think he would have chosen women to be apostles? as for Deborah she was a warrior not a priest.

No slam against women .they can be a deaconess and serve CHRIST in many other roles just as men can.

All christians must submit to CHRIST.
18:53 November 9, 2010 by Ivar av B.
I think that pastor Per Linderoth is absolutely right. Pristhood is reserved for males. Priests and bishops are chosen elders of the church and the elder is supposed to be "husband of one wife". The Scriptures says that God created Adam (Man) first, then Eve (Woman) as a helper to Adam. Not vice versa.

So i am for Per Linderoth. We have a Bible-believing pastor here (which is becoming rare nowadays). Those who teach that woman can be a pastor are apostates.

btw, there's a lot of ministries for women in the church that crave for their talents, skills and crafts: musical, working with children, gifts, decorations, receptions, organisaton of celebrations, charity etc.
15:52 December 7, 2010 by Serendipitiz
HAHAHAHA!!! One nutjob who believes in fairy tales saying that women nutjobs who believe in those fairy tales can't preach those fairy tales, and those who do get to senior hierarchies within this organization that bases it's beliefs on the beliefs of illiterates who lived 2000 years ago will have a special place in a mythical place.

And then we have the nutjobs who comment on this ludicrous story, and help reinforce the picture that all these people who believe in fairytales are actually nutjobs. Yes, you christfollower, and you, Ivar av B (B for Bumblef#ck?), and all the others who will shortly follow....

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