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‘Terrorism is a battle of minds, not of bombs’

The Local · 15 Dec 2010, 13:38

Published: 15 Dec 2010 13:38 GMT+01:00

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In a time of crisis or terror, journalism and social debate not only involve reporting and analysing the facts on-the-ground but also exposing the misnomers and falsities that gain currency. The act of terrorism in Stockholm this Saturday will surely be a boon for the peddlers of hatred like the Sweden Democrats in Sweden and Jihadist groups across Europe, as well as the merchants of fear attached to the military-defence-surveillance industry.

We need to realise and act upon the fact that terrorism is a battle of minds not of bombs, a clash of ideas not of cultures and civilisations. That is why Swedish society needs to be defended by its writers, poets, journalists, artists, and teachers rather than by the faceless members of the security police. This is not about counter-terrorism, but about defending our freedom. This is not a nationalist assignment, but a democratic responsibility.

What we need now is an engaged debate in newspapers, cafés, and Swedish for immigrants (SFI) language classes on the actual merits of the allegations against Sweden and her people purportedly put forward by the man who launched the suicide attack in Stockholm. After all, such terrorist actions are primarily designed to poison public conscience with false propaganda.

A careful reading of the statement released to TT and Sapö will reveal that the author was not only keen on the death of Swedish children, women, and men but also wanted to ensure the future births of foot-soldiers of Jihadist terrorism in Sweden and Europe. If we do not want that to happen, we need not throw bombs in retaliation nor install surveillance cameras, instead we should raise questions.

As the statement suggests, a cartoon by Lars Vilks is “injustice done against Islam and prophet Mohammad.”

The truth remains that Sweden is not the country where a Muslim can be jailed and tortured for saying, “There is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his prophet.”

That country is Pakistan, where members of the Ahmadiya sect in Islam are forbidden by law from uttering the sahada; reading the Quran; saying their prayers; and, performing the hajj pilgrimage.

Injustice against Islam and prophet Mohammad?

Ask the Ahmadiya Muslims in Gothenburg who were forced to flee Pakistan in the face of brutal religious persecution and utter humiliation. Or, ask the Muslim refugees from Uzbekistan in Örebro who were forced to flee a regime that boils its opponents to death, many for their religious beliefs. Or, ask the Uyghur Muslims across Sweden who were forced to flee the ethnic oppression by the Chinese regime.

The statement also cites the Swedish military presence of around five hundred soldiers in Afghanistan to establish the claim that Sweden has waged a war against Islam – an allegation clearly aimed at inciting Muslim backlash against Sweden. It suggests that Sweden is responsible for the deaths of “our [Muslim] brothers and sisters and children.”

Sweden responsible for the death of Muslim men, women, and children?

Ask the thousands and thousands of Afghan and Iraqi and Bosnian and Somali and Kurdish men, women, and children who received refuge in Sweden over the past decades, fleeing from wars and genocidal onslaughts that had nothing or little to do with Sweden.

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Or ask the 500,000 Muslims in Western Sahara under the brutal occupation of Morocco; or the 200,000 Muslim Rohingya refugees suffering terrible treatment in Bangladesh.

Ask: How can we stop the birth of the next suicide bomber?

Tasneem Khalil is the editor of Independent World Report, a global magazine of human rights journalism based in Örebro, Sweden.

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15:40 December 15, 2010 by Borilla
Well said. However, let us sincerely hope that one incompetent would-be bomber is not able to induce a climate of terror and fear in this entire country. It should be a battle of the minds but let us also sincerely hope that the bodies that require it are arrested or expelled from Sweden or both.
16:36 December 15, 2010 by Roy E
The non-shooting war against Western societies is very real and every bit as sinister and evil . The fact that it lacks the graphic imagery of body parts flying does not make it OK.
17:15 December 15, 2010 by expert
Ahhhhhhh! i think what she forgets to mention or couldn't find it worth mentioning is that many more people have been killed in Pakistan due to suicide bombing related voilence than any nation in the world involved in occupation of Afghanistan.. One should keep the facts straight rather than distorting. More innocent human beings have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq due to the wars than any where in the world. And the freedom that she is mentioning is limited to her own definition, what about Wikileaks, which have been prevented by the very same freedom loving countries when it started showing facts. I think we should start looking at both sides of the picture.
21:28 December 15, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
“Now there's spiritual warfare and flesh and blood breaking down

Ya either got faith or ya got unbelief and there ain't no neutral ground”

(Mr. Dylan, “Precious Angel”)

Tasneem Khalil is to be congratulated. He would like the Swedish general public to be responsible, to participate and be the main mover. The article strikes a sympathetic and conciliatory tone, but for the writer's deep suspicion and direct distrust of the authorities whose role after all is to protect our lives, our limbs, and the properties of the realm.

What's that you say?

“The act of terrorism in Stockholm this Saturday will surely be a boon for the peddlers of hatred like the Sweden Democrats in Sweden and Jihadist groups across Europe, as well as the merchants of fear attached to the military-defence-surveillance industry.”

Possible: That what's been done can be un-done.

Also possible: There's a real security threat posed by whatever meaning you give to the word “Terrorism”. So it's not a matter of “merchants of fear”. Both before and after last Saturday there has been a real threat. There is a real threat that is why the security alert level is not at zero.

“terrorism is a battle of minds not of bombs”?

Don't you know that The Jihadist uses his Mind to detonate his BOMB!?

Don't you know that The Jihadist is in a sound (and sombre) state of mind when he detonates the bomb

and with such deadly intent??

Or do you think

That he merely (mindlessly) detonates the bomb and then prays and hopes

that it doesn't explode?

Ever heard the expression “Bomb Culture”?

Or How I stopped worrying and started loving the bomb?

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb:



Is there anything like Islamic Bomb Culture? Or an existentially national paranoia known as “Fear of the bomb”?

Battle of minds yeah – Fear of the Bomb vs. How I stopped worrying and started loving the bomb…

“a clash of ideas not of cultures and civilisations”

You mean - talaq talaq talaq - good ideas divorced from all that culture and Western Civilisation?

Whilst “the Swedish society” that you mention,” needs to be defended by its writers, poets, journalists, artists, and teachers” and what we are doing is “defending our freedom” you could also, in very clear language place an equal emphasis on the role of the Islamic school, home and mosque teachers, in teaching ( showing the ways in which al-Islam incorporate those values – as and when it does) and in defending the values of “the Swedish Society” – even though this al-cohol and rock & roll society is basically “kuffar”.

You could set up de-programming community projects to tone down or convert youthful radical energies, just a wee bit…into more creative outcomes.
01:27 December 16, 2010 by rolfkrohna
This is very true, there is a responsibility on writers, poets, journalists, and so on. The danger and core issue now is that the publishers as PI (Politically Incorrect) and Newsmill as well as old-media are censoring the writers and filtering the input from the writers so they can present the image "they" want to project. Today we have no protection from this, and the Newsmill and PI censoring is rife and dangerous. It is very similar to the situation in Europe in the 30's when media all over Europe was pressured to only publish material that certain groups wanted to be know, while hiding "uncomfortable" information. We need changes.
05:48 December 16, 2010 by MarkinBoston
So the message? Don't fight back. When they kill you - think at them. That will teach them.
07:57 December 16, 2010 by flintis
Mmmm! if this women is deemed to be an intelligent journalist, then we are in trouble. She must have been blinded by the light.
09:40 December 16, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
“What we need now is an engaged debate in newspapers, cafés, and Swedish for immigrants (SFI) language classes…” So why not a debate on Islamic extremism in our Swedish Parliament?

Does somebody care enough to answer the question?

Here too is an illustration of the battle between minds over nuclear annihilation matters:

12:32 December 16, 2010 by dtes
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13:09 December 16, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Unlike Taslima Nasrin, Tasneem Khalil who has variously, mistakenly been referred to as “she“ and “her” is in reality a brother. What Brother Tasneem Khalil advocates is a public discussion and debate about the merits and demerits of terrorism.

Should such a discussion proceed along the lines he has orchestrated, the prevailing atmosphere would be heavily Sverige Demokrater (Sweden Demo-crats. In today's Sweden if you were to conduct any Gallup polls, you'd find that the SD would have gained some 80% of the national ballot on this issue.


TK, your very Ahmadiyya mission is under siege and accused of being “non- Muslims”

As we all know, in the history of mankind, wars of conquest – and terrorism - have been going on for a long time. Some say that the poor man's terrorism of today is his compensation for the lack of a nuclear bomb or two to bring to the negotiating table, to back up his safe diplomacy.


It's not just that Sweden's “writers, poets, journalists, artists, and teachers” must debate terrorism or as you say “Swedish society needs to be defended by its writers, poets, journalists, artists, and teachers…” etc – but in the “Open” Society Sweden's Revolutionaries, Anarchists, terrorists (and terrorism sympathisers) Sweden's articulate Islamophobes and Nazis could be invited to participate in the debate . If the intellectual climate were that “open” in this more “Open Society “ that we would like to see, paradoxically, indeed all the aforementioned would raise their various voices and be voluble, publicly, at least a few decibels. But not too many of them dare voice too unpopular views, not even in writing, but are outlawed to do that in their “Hate Sites”.

In transition we could pass through this phase:

1. Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.

2. Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.

3. No animal shall wear clothes.

4. No animal shall sleep in a bed.

5. No animal shall drink alcohol.

6. No animal shall kill any other animal.

7. All animals are equal.

But since we could use a little bit of more FREEDOM as a fitting the grande finale to the Battle (after war there's usually peace) we could have one of these:


The dialogue (listening to and responding to the other), the single monologues and the debates –out of courtesy have to be conducted through an understanding of the position and situation of the other - it means understanding that which may appear to be beyond rational understanding. Battling other minds does not mean shutting out those other minds from the debate and just in a very shrill sort of way, drowning the media with an all-out blitz of anti-terrorism ideas and information and (of course) anti-terrorism legislations. Other minds ( which represent terrorism as an ideology would be reluctant to come out in a public debate – to defend their ideas, so, as far as the internal dialogue in Swden is concerned, it looks like a one way battle in this

“battle of ideas, not of bombs.” On the verbal front other minds would mean (for example) include representing the reportedly al-Qaeda affiliate, the al-Shaabab minds (local and international) and debating their positions in what is their national/ Islamic struggle worldwide and particularly in Somalia:


Here's something interesting, from the horse's mouth:

13:36 December 16, 2010 by wolverine2k
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14:39 December 16, 2010 by Syftfel
Australia's Prime Minister, Ms. Julia Gillard, has said the following, and I'm not mnaking this up. It is a direct quote.

What she says is wise even by Swedish standards. If anyone cares to comment, I'd prefer to hear from social democrats, liberals and muslims only:


Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..

Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:


I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

14:55 December 16, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

How do you and yours fit into this:

"The Seven Commandments, after the pigs' "revisions"

1. "Four legs good, two legs better!"

2. No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets.

3. No animal shall drink alcohol to excess.

4. No animal shall kill any other animal without cause.

5. All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
16:07 December 16, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

It's still a surprise to see some of the uncle tom imams toeing the line and inadvertently mis-leading people by trying to give the impression that JIHAD means “peace.”




17:27 December 16, 2010 by qed16
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01:41 December 17, 2010 by wenddiver
So the next time our Navy SEALS takeout a terrorist camp and prevent these people from becoming terrorists, I'll be expecting our Poets and Jounalists to laud their actions in a nice poem for the war of ideas. LOL LAMO
11:01 December 17, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

This your Post #16 is tantamount to “Hets mot folkgrupp “( Hate Speech and incitement ) and if it were left up to me, your miserable ass would be arraigned before a Swedish Court, to answer charges.
11:53 December 17, 2010 by jackx123
who gives a rats azz kick out the swines. it's sickening how immigrants are treated



not much different in sweden. it's absolutely sickening to see stuff like this
12:26 December 17, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Does what one Muslim does represent all Muslims?

A Christian represents all Christians?


Think about it.
15:52 December 17, 2010 by knut.nilsson
Cornelius Hamelberg, certain a Christian does not represent all Christians. But when an overwhelming majority of suicide bombings are carried out by Christians, wouldn't you start to doubt what many Christians are being taught in their churches and Sunday schools?

Think about it.
15:53 December 17, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Does what two Muslims do, represent all Muslims?
15:53 December 17, 2010 by knut.nilsson
In the above comment, I meant, certainLY a Christian does not represent all Christians.
15:59 December 17, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
During the Holocaust days most Nazis were Christian. Do you agree?

Makes you wonder "what many Christians were being taught in their churches and Sunday schools", doesn't it?

If you unwisely decide to continue with this discussion I will supply you with some examples from the past 2,000 years that you will not easily forget.
16:36 December 17, 2010 by knut.nilsson
Cornelius, surely you're not trying to deter me from having a discussion here. Perhaps you shouldn't be presumptuous and assume that I do not already know many of the examples you have in mind. But, let's discuss, if you like.

Since you mentioned about the Nazis, did the Nazis kill the Jews, other Christians such as the Poles, communists such as Russians etc in the name of Christianity? They killed in the name of Nazism. Now, compare that with suicide bombings in the past decade. They are overwhelmingly carried out by Muslim extremists who do it in the name of Islam. As I would doubt what was being taught in German schools during the Nazi reign, I would doubt what is being taught in extremist madrasahs and mosques today. Notice I say extremist schools and mosque, meaning not all schools and mosques are Muslims.

I'm certainly not saying that all Muslims are being led astray. However, there are many madrasahs that teach extremism all over the Islamic world. Hey, but don't trust my words, check it out yourself on Islamist websites and check out their lecture notes and syllabus if you read Arabic, Persian, Urdu or Indonesian (I read in two of them). They may not be many, maybe even a minority in the Islamic world but you don't need 500 million suicide bombers to wreak havoc, you just need a few thousand.

I'm very glad for Muslims who speak out against the negative things that extremist Muslims do in the name of Islam. Alhamdulillahi rabb il-'alamin for that and I say jazakallahu khairan kathira to you.
17:03 December 17, 2010 by tadchem
I believe that Säpo has understated the case. Islamic extremism is not just a threat to Sweden; it is a threat to all intelligent life on earth, and to all culture. The shame is that the vast majority of the victims of Islamic extremists have historically been Islamic moderates who quietly suffer the abuse, fearful of speaking out against other Moslems. They are enabling the tyranny of the minority much as the German people did 80 years ago.
17:30 December 17, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

No Sir,

My democratic instincts would not like to deter you from carrying on a discussion in our discussion forum. As long as we both agree with good reason that Muslim extremism is not the real Islam, let's continue to be friends and co-workers in the fight against the fundamentalist's extremism whether it be Nazism or fascism or the death cult of the suicide bomber who says that there is no distinction to be made between civilians who support the military that is fighting them and the military itself.

Whilst we are at it, we could also take a look at the underlying causes of the suicide bomber – at the suicide bomber and his/ her grievances and see if there's anything that can be done to address those causes of terrorism.

Non-Muslims repeatedly kill Muslims civilians, en masse, without apology. They call it “collateral damage”:

For example, take a look at this:


We are to suppose that the would-be suicide-bomber bent on revenge or avenging the deaths of his beloveds reasons thus: My people have suffered personal family losses - civilian losses, so unjustly. I am prepared to sacrifice my life to inflict similar losses on the enemy. “An eye for an eye” - a sort of primitive non-Judaic “eye for an eye”. In accordance with Judaic law

“an eye for an eye” has always been monetary compensation – and please take note that “ an eye for an eye”, implies equal rights: that all eyes are equal …

Muslims are being fought and killed by non-Muslims in their own Muslim countries, with superior weapons... A key demand of al-Qaeda is that the Kuffar military leave all Muslim lands……

Now if it had been other enemy militias that had been occupying Scandinavia and the rest of Europe, the phenomena of the deperate Swedish suicide bomber would have arisen, a few brave Swedish suicide bombers would then be striking terror in the hearts of the enemy:


17:56 December 17, 2010 by Triple Play
This guy is basically from a wahabi sect which is being practiced in Saudi Arabia, afghanistan and in north of pakistan close to afghanistan. wahabis are the most extremist group in islam. They are very conservative and fanatic in their views about other sects within islam. every year they killed hundreds of shia minorities in the month of moharram. they consider shia sect as non muslims and they think if they kill them they will go to heaven according to to the teachings they get from their religious imams. they use the same technique to kill international troops in afghanistan by suicide bombing and other means.in history wahabis killed innocent children, rape women and killed armless persons who did not accept their rule. they are being supported by saudi arabia to kill shia muslims who are actually the real face of islam.i bet not a single shia muslim is involved in all the terrorist activities around the globe.this guy tried to kill innocent swedish people in stockholm in the same month of moharram in which wahabis murdered innocent women,children and armless man some 1500 years ago. all these wahabis should be expelled out of sweden since they are the most dangerous form of terrorism. sverige är en lugn land alla invandrare most alska sverigeland
18:01 December 17, 2010 by cmbsweden
Actually Knut, part of the reason Nazis murdered Jews WAS because they were Christian (Catholic as it were)...make no mistake, while it may not have been the main reason, it did exist as a reason. That's why the Vatican did not speak out against it at the time.
19:21 December 17, 2010 by skatty
The question of"How can we stop the birth of the suicide bomber?" is an interesting question, because it asks how to stop suicide bomber and not all different kinds of bombers! It seems the problem is just suicide bombers.

You see terrorism has been in the world for long time, it was a time a terrorist bombed a place but didn't kill him/herself, even in west, like Spain or UK ….

But, the question is how west has become so sensitive to the suicide bomber! Probably because Muslims can be identified as Suicide bombers and not other kinds of terrorist groups,

and probably because they see the whole world as the battle field.

I think it was a time, when an Irish bombed a place in London or a Basque separatist in Madrid or …, and a Swede in Sweden, or an American in US didn't bother very much, they watched it on the TV. The police followed some routines to capture the bomber, because most of them didn't kill themselves.

Now, the world is changed, you see the bombers kill themselves and they kill themselves not just in a particular country but anywhere, because anywhere is the battle field and everybody the enemy!

I think I read somewhere in DN that terrorist are thinking "black or white", the interesting thing is that for some years ago after 9/11, W. Bush said in an speech on war on terror, to warn the whole world, "you are with us, or you are with terrorists". I don't think you can find more "black or white" than this speech from a guy who wanted to fight against terrorist. And of course, what you can expect from terrorists is a response in the same way to the whole world, isn't it! If you are not with us, then you are with the other side!

May be to answer the question depends to look at the reasons and not the results; suicide bombing is the result not the reason.
20:00 December 17, 2010 by qed16
@ Cornelius

Haha, you are an idiot.... I would love to see Islam put on trial for the repressive violent hate cult/fascist group it is. Hopefully that day will come.

No one is talking about one Muslim, you traitor.

We're talking about the legions of Muslims committing all variety of fascist repression of women and non-believers, canings, beheadings, bombings, hate filled protests ...all in the name of the "religion of peace".

Wake up. They are the Nazis in this narrative.

Ask this poor woman below... I don't see Muslims getting sentenced to death for blasphemy anywhere in the West.

20:13 December 17, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
I should advise you to take a good look at yourself and I would further advice you to revise your words or else !
20:16 December 17, 2010 by qed16
Or else what? I see you only believe in free speech for immigrants and terrorists, traitor.

You are a terrorist apologist and therefore an accomplice.
21:46 December 17, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Or else nothing.

I'm beginning to get a little irritated with you.

Free speech? You can go hang yourself and Lars Vilk for all I care. I'm sure that Allah subhan t'ala is angry with him.

Traitor to what?

Have I signed a pact with you?

Traitor to your ideas? Your ideals? Your idols?

To your chronic Islamophobia?

So which religion do you think is the religion of peace?

Read carefully:


21:54 December 17, 2010 by Iftikhar_Ahmad
Muslim schools and Madrasahs in Pakistan are not producing suicide bombers. Western education is responsible for this. Knowlege is power and makes a man stupid and corrupt. The economic cruch and all the problem in the world are created by western educated blue eyed elites. There is a need for the Islamisation of knowledge. Muslim schools are trying to Islamicise knowledge because knowledge is power which makes a man corrupt.

In Sweden, the suicide bomber was educated in Sweden from the age of ten where he was mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers. Similarly 9/11 and 7/7 suicide bombers have been mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers. They are no longer role models for them, They were not the products of Muslim schools or Madrasahs.


22:19 December 17, 2010 by Njal

"Muslim schools and Madrasahs in Pakistan are not producing suicide bombers. Western education is responsible for this"

- Disagree

" Knowlege is power and makes a man stupid and corrupt"

- this can sometimes be the case, but by and large scientific knowledge has created wealth and abundance for most, and is the reason as to why you would rather be living in the West.

" The economic cruch and all the problem in the world are created by western educated blue eyed elites"

- really Iftikhar? did they all have blue eyes? and is that really important, perhaps you felt is was.

"There is a need for the Islamisation of knowledge"

- again disagree, somewhat a contradiction in terms is you ask me.

"Muslim schools are trying to Islamicise knowledge because knowledge is power which makes a man corrupt."

- do you understand how this sentence sounds to those who naturally speak English? It sounds that you think knowledge is power and therefore corrupt, and by assocIation, Islam.

"In Sweden, the suicide bomber was educated in Sweden from the age of ten where he was mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers"

- this ought to be a clarion call statement to all those who believe Islam is compatible with the West. Do not try to include Sweden's action of providing such fools with a free education and a safe home, as part of the tragedy. The Swedes did not have to even let him into their country, but they did. This man, made his own choices, and his choices were to commit mass murder to those who ought to have had his gratitude. There is nothing noble in Islam at all, tho' it's votaries often try to convince us otherwise.

"They were not the products of Muslim schools or Madrasahs."

- yes they are.
22:21 December 17, 2010 by tercel
@ Cornelius

"...Post #16 is tantamount to "Hets mot folkgrupp "( Hate Speech and incitement ) and if it were left up to me, your miserable ass would be arraigned before a Swedish Court, to answer charges."

You nazi, the nazis had hate speech laws just like the ones you PC morons copied. All that you spout is al-Taqiyya, al-Taqiyya, al-Taqiyya. The nazis said 1+1=3, Joseph Goebbels repeated over and over again till it was believed BUT it was a lie. People like you believe you can change lies into truth but you delude yourselves a lie is a lie and the truth is the truth. 1+1=2 and always will. In the end your hate speech laws will hang you just like the nazi hate speech laws hung them.
22:54 December 17, 2010 by qed16
@ Iftikhar

I'm glad you posted to show everyone what a bunch of repressive, imperialistic, fascist, stone age cavemen Muslims really are.

"Knowlege is power and makes a man stupid and corrupt...There is a need for the Islamisation of knowledge."

Here in the West we value knowledge and freedom. They are what has made us great and the lack of it has made the Muslim world a horrific chaotic disaster unable to produce anything of value because of the pathetic ignorance of the people caused by Islam.

Why are you people running in droves to live in the West then?... Because Islam produces nothing but violence and horror.

Westerners are not blowing up Christmas shoppers. Muslims are.

You, sir, are the threat. The satanic teachings of your war mongering, child molesting "prophet" will never fit into civilization and are the greatest evil threatening the world right now.

You will not Islamify the West. You and your kind will be sent packing back to the horrible places you came from and Islam will be defeated. Just please keep posting things like you did so we can speed things along...
23:38 December 17, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

I'm an advanced philosophy student.

What on earth are you going on about - Goebbels - Taqiyya.

I do believe you are barking up the wrong tree. "you can change lies into truth"….

And who are you calling a Nazi?

If you don't apologise believe you me the lightning will take you and you won't know where.
00:06 December 18, 2010 by unseen
@Cornelius Hamelberg,


chill out m8.

i really enjoyed the comments above, even those who went too far (well, in my opinion at least).

i have no religion, but my wife does. she is a muslim, and actually my parents were muslims as well. to me, they are not as described as radicals, animals or whatever been said above.

it is always good to listen, and you still have the right to kindly disagree.

life is bigger than muslims, westerns chines or whatsoever.

Qed 16,

you keep me confused mate. sometimes your speech is forwarded toward muslims, yet you say you mean extremists?

its Christmas times,

i wish you all a Merry Christmas and happy prosperous peaceful year
00:23 December 18, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Tercel = terrorist cell

He's out to teach some thing... some Hannah Arendt.

Or perhaps his new theory of relativity,

his new theory of the trinity, that 1+1+1= 3
01:23 December 18, 2010 by jbat
Why no one can think that this evil people like Taymour Abdulwahab mave has been paid by monster evil people to commit this crime and make it look like for the sake of muslims (there is no benefits at all for the muslims for what he has done... NONE.. in fact it will make the life of muslims be more difficult than before. especially here.. so what the point of this crazy people doing this for mulims? its just a piece of shiiit!)...

Look at here for example... see how many anti muslim posters here take advantages from this event to bark more loud about muslims people... they are not sad for this stupid event to happen here in this peaceful country but more interesting to blame muslims for the crime committed by this 1 stupid muslim.
02:47 December 18, 2010 by qed16

I think Islam is a cultural cancer that will destroy civilization if left unchecked. It's a violent fascist cult, not a religion. I don't even blame the believers necessarily. They are brainwashed. But look at the Muslim world. It's complete madness. We don't need that here.

Even pious non-violent Muslims believe the Islamification of the world as a goal by non-violent means. That's what they are taught. They will not assimilate if they are true believers. And the beliefs of Islam are unfortunately awful, inhumane, brutal, backwards, intolerant of our values and incompatible with Western culture.

That said, I don't think Muslims should be subjugated... Therefore if you choose to join the Islamic cult, do it somewhere else.

I support the creation of a Palestinian state. I oppose the war in Iraq. For human rights reasons. I still think Islam is awful. And being from the Middle East does not brand one a "Muslim", obviously.

I simply oppose the Muslim cultural invasion of Europe. With one hand they brutalize, torture and kill minorities, non-believers, women and gays in their part of the world and with the other they cry for us to tolerate their intolerant beliefs as they slowly undermine our values and way of life.
08:17 December 18, 2010 by Sting
I am an international student for about two years and the reason I chose Sweden over countries like US, Australia, UK and even Canada, was due to what I read about its culture and thoughtful approach to life.

The way the Swedes, natives and immigrants, have reacted to this attack speaks volumes about the intellectual abilities of the people living in this great nation.

I am surrounded by Muslim and Arab students in my university, and every single one of them lashed out in anger against this man.

While this can be clearly categorized as an attack carried out by extremist members of a religion, but so many things do not make sense:

1. There were 2 attacks and just one attacker. Why did he feel he needed to explode himself when he could remote detonate the bomb, like it was the case in the other care.

2. I understand men living in desperate conditions and war zones carrying out suicide bombings, but why a Swedish immigrant? Why would a family man do such a thing?

In my view, just as the Malmo immigrants attacker, who is being analyzed by psychologists, the actions of these men make no sense.

Why would a man of Iraqi origin worry about 500 troops in Afghanistan? There are troops helping out from across the world in Afghanistan, including troops from Arab countries.

I hope the Swedish investigators manage to understand the root cause. If he did what he did, then it must be asked why? Because this even isn't in line with the attacks carried out by alleged religious extremists before.

He was in UK and got radicalized there, as it is reported, then why not carry out his attacks there? UK troops are not only in Afghanistan, but also in Iraq.

All these questions must be asked!
10:36 December 18, 2010 by 4thtankie
Battle of minds, tell that to the hundreds of thousands of victims of terrorism. It would only be a battle of minds if we all saw it through these radicalist idiots eyes. Sadly, until that time it will remain a physical battle, if people continue to take this warm and cuddly point of view it is like you are tolerating it. This behavious cannot be tolerated. @STING, The UK has had its fair share of idiots in its time and you are wrong. there is no UK troops in Iraq now. Do not try and make sense of why this fool made the decisions he made.....there is simply no sense to it. For all those who blame Iraq and Afghanistan as the pre-cursers to these extremists idiots. Look at Iraq today compared to 10-15 yrs ago, it takes time but it is slowly getting there. Afghanistan will take longer, but it too has hope with INTERNATIONAL assistance.
10:59 December 18, 2010 by skatty

By your comment in #42; I am not sure, but I believe your point is that Muslims, who live in Europe should probably change their religion to something more favourable one in Europe like Christianity, or may be Europeans in general should stop Muslims of coming to Europe, or Europeans should let them live in Europe under conditions dictated by European countries? I can't come to more alternatives than these three.

1. About changing the religion, because, Europe is free, nobody can force Muslims to change to Christianity, and after all why should Christianity be better, there had been long wars between Catholics and Protestants and the domination of church which had been Dark Age of Europe.

2. About Stopping Muslims to come to Europe, it can be possible with a condition, and the condition is exactly what suicide bombers are asking. The suicide bombers ask the west to keep their feet out of the Muslim world, and then Muslim keeps their feet out of the West. But the problem is west has to keep its feet in Muslim world. Take as an example this suicide bomber in the article from Iraq, the whole country is ruined because of their oil, and to control that oil is vital for western civilization and economy, as controlling other resources from developing countries have been vital for western economy during the direct colonialism for long time. The cultural invasion of Europe by Muslims has been created by Europeans and can be ended by Europeans.

3. About letting Muslims live in Europe under condition dictated by European. It's actually what we are experiencing at present. Take for example Sweden; the Moslims, and in general immigrants are the second class citizens in here, the chance to find a good job for Muslims is low and mostly ended up in the bottom of the society, no matter of their education and abilities.
12:27 December 18, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

A little correction: I meant quod erat demonstrandum16's post #15 which says that poetry is not going to save the planet from real terrorist bombings. Followed by his usual anti-Islamic ranting of course:”an evil cult”, “fascist” “sexist” “violent political ideology”. He then adds, “There is no religion of peace.”

In my view, terrorism is part of unconventional warfare – and that is all – the terrorist strikes back from the position of underdog – he may have a dirty bomb or two with which he would like to light up the Christmas tree this Christmas or as part of the midnight fireworks celebrations to welcome the incoming New Year; he doesn't yet have arsenals of nuclear bombs, spacecraft or nuclear-tipped submarines with which to do that.

The unintelligible “tercel” apparently believes that the “hets mot folkgrupp” - hate speech law should be rescinded because it is he says, redolent of his role models the Nazis whose propaganda chief was able to turn Jewish blood into sacramental wine.

If he hasn't already done so he had better take a look into Wilhelm Reich's “The Mass Psychology of Fascism” which analyses the creation of an authoritarian society and the direction that terrorist threats can drive us in: taking cover in the one authority of those who can protect us – and in fact increasing that authority. e.g. FRA law etc in the name of homeland security you may have to surrender some of your individual liberties. Thanks to the terrorist. By the time he has acquired an aeroplane or two - or the Iranian missiles can hit Moder Svea, it should be about the right time to start digging the bomb shelter under the cellar.


Repeat a lie enough times and it begins to gain currency as truth – therefore all the anti-Islam propaganda and the media blitzkrieg against Islam whose distinguishing characteristic is now said to be terrorism and all the other evils that characterize qed16's rants.

Along with hate speech I guess “tercel” would like to repeal the legal code of defamation, libel and slander, the Official Secrets Act, decriminalize espionage and maybe give Julian Assange the Nobel Peace prize for transparency – and for him not naming his sources.

He doesn't know what kitman or taqiyya is - I'll tell him this: a practioner of taqiyya (unless he is an advanced philosopher) cannot pass this simple test (and neither can he, if he's guilty:

19:15 December 18, 2010 by qed16

You're right, that is the real question. What to do in practical terms?

First, stop all immigration from Muslim countries entirely under any circumstances.

Secondly, something along the lines of Germany's handling of Scientology, another virulent cult, is probably the model. Not easy, but it's possible the conflict will escalate to a level that makes it possible politically.

As far as immigrants being second class citizens, that is almost always the case in the first generation anywhere in the world. The US is a country of immigrants who chose to assimilate and all of them, Irish, Jew, Italian, etc. were hated and mistreated and in the first generation and became assimilated by the second.

Today, hispanic immigrants are in menial jobs in the first generation and the second generation kids are going to college, getting good jobs and indistinguishable from white Americans. That's why most immigrate illegally to the US. White/hispanic intermarriage is the norm in mixed areas. They work very hard and take advantage of the opportunities available to them.

For some reason, many Muslim immigrants manage to stay second class citizens after the first generation despite having the world on a platter in form of the Swedish social system which is infinitely more generous than that of the US. Hard work and a willingness to assimilate neither of which are Muslim values, are required instead of a helpless victim mentality and blaming the blue eyed infidel devils who pay their bills.
20:38 December 18, 2010 by skatty

I think it's very good that you mentioned the Europe should stop all immigration from the Muslim countries. Actually, Europe wouldn't even have to stop Muslim immigrants to come to Europe, because Muslims wouldn't even think to come to Europe, if and just if the western gentlemen leave Muslim countries to Muslims and let them kill each others, or whatever they want to do with their own countries. Because the case in here is Iraq, let look at Iraq.

Why Iraqis are coming to Sweden, is it any relation between Iraq and Sweden? No

Has Iraq been Swedish colony, and Iraqis could speak Swedish by colonial rule? No

Did Iraqis look forward to become an immigrant in Sweden and live as a second class citizen in Sweden? No.

So, what Iraqis are doing in Sweden? Of course the answer is because there has been war in their country and it wasn't tolerable to live in Iraq, they moved in different countries as refugees.

How they got the war? It's a long story, but makes it short, the US got there, because they believed they have Nuclear weapon, but of course it was not true.

So, what Americans are doing right now in Iraq? The lovely Americans are trying to change the Iraqis National oil industry to a private industry for their own oil corporations.

Is it in the favour of the Iraqis people? It's not important if it's in their favour; if they don't like it, then they can join to the suicide bombers and express their feelings with some explosion here or there.

What Sweden has to do with Americans? They have nothing to do with it, but there is a war on terror, and may be Swedes have to experience some of that unfavourable expressions by suicide bombers here or there, and who knows may be one they Sweden get a piece of that oily cake from Americans in Iraq, business is always good!

So, you see Iraqis had nothing to do in Sweden at all, and have absolute no interest to live in Sweden to blame blue eyes infidel devils to pay their bills.

Muslim immigrants didn't manage to stay second class, because they are not the mangers, American managed every thing for them!
21:06 December 18, 2010 by qed16

I totally agree the war in Iraq is an unjust and unnecessary.

That said, how do explain the horrific amount of Muslim on Muslim violence that has occured in Iraq since the fall of Sadaam, then? And the constant Muslim on Muslim violence that occurs around the world?

I'm sure you'll blame the Americans for it, but the reality is Muslims are disturbingly fond of killing other Muslims for ridiculous tribal or religious reasons. Sadaam was the only thing stopping it because he was a force even more terrifying.

Sadaam, as much of a butcher as he was, was the only thing keeping the semblance of peace in a country full of violent religious lunatics like Iraq.

America should have left it alone but following that logic then, they should install another brutal secular dictator who will torture, kill and terrorize the religious elements of society to keep them in check. Freedom certainly isn't working. Choose your poison.
23:30 December 18, 2010 by tercel
@Cornelius Hamelberg

"I'm an advanced philosophy student." LOL. Who can't understand english. If you are a native Swedish then you and your "Hets mot folkgrupp" laws make you nothing less then a Quisling. Millions have died for freedom of speech. If you don't like the fact that others have freedom of speech to question or even make sophomoric fun at someone then I would advise you to move to North Korea. I am sure you would enjoy it there immensely.

If you are threatening me with physical violence it is a felony called VERBAL ASSAULT.

It is just like a PC moron to attempt to change the subject and cry that you are the victim. You cannot change the fact, your hate speech laws are virtually identical to the hate speech laws of the nazis. Don't add things into my post that were not there.
01:34 December 19, 2010 by qed16
@ tercel

Right on.

Yes, the Muslims with their fear of hate speech, staunch support of freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

Ask Lars Vilks and Salman Rushdie about that...

The same people who bomb over a cartoon, march the streets chanting death to the West and who's fundamental belief is the abolition of all other religions besides Islam worldwide...

We need to worry about hurting their feelings with our opinions of their institutionalized insanity. Right...

Keep up the fight... Fortunately people are waking up.
01:35 December 19, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Mofo@ Post #51

You think that I fell off a tree and landed in Sweden?

I can give you a few references.

You want me to change gears - tell me your name and you won't EVER bother me again.

You come from nowhere and would like me to emigrate to North Korea?

Perhaps to get a nuclear weapon there to shove up your big wide ass and then pull the trigger and watch you ascend in smoke, so that the Swedish flag can fly at half mast?

I'm not aware of threatening an unknown entity like you “with physical violence” – or threatening you with even mental or psychological distress. Physical violence would be “olaga hot” – in which case you could get the best lawyer that all your money could buy and take me to court. (I already have the best lawyer that money could hire.)

By “advanced philosophy student." I meant something more mystical and less mundane than the kind of grammar or alphabet of being that you are familiar with

Little nonsensical piece of “shite“(as my Scottish stepfather would pronounce it) you have been here previously under another name to make merry with me. Sure, to begin with I've got a good honours degree in English and Philosophy from one of the best of the English Universities, and that's not all, but what's that to an anonymous and nondescript ignoramus like you?

You want to initiate some pseudo–intellectual or academic discussion with me but the tragedy is that I don't understands what you are getting at or what you are trying to say. Seems that you are mentally ill–equipped to be serious – or for me to take you seriously. Therefore, I strongly recommend that look for your own level and someone with your own type of academic & cultural background and social class to start barking about “freedom of speech.”

What you have said so far and what you have to say in the future is not interesting to me. You may carry your wares to someplace else or to some other person's address and discuss with him or her, but please not me. I don't have the time for it and I don't know what it is that I wrote previously that makes you think that I should pay you any mind or that I am against freedom to think or to write sense or nonsense or to speak without bounds.

You are on another wavelength and so there's no point in discussing the topic at hand or anything else with you.


I've just had a wonderful evening at Café Hörnet in Enskede. I was pleased that Kent Ekberg greeted me as “gammal bandit” (I was already feeling a little rakish) and was happy to discover Hans Caldaras (backed by Christer Langborn). We were also entertained by Lille Printer's updates and I was particularly thrilled to rediscover Pierre Ström after an interval of some thirty something years.

On Monday I intend to purchase all the music that he's done and that is available….


I was also happy to read in Monday's Svenska Dagbladet:

“Samtidigt överraskar SD med att vara det parti som vill satsa mest nya kulturpengar. Så mycket som 200 miljoner kronor extra vill man stoppa in i en statlig fond som skulle dela ut pengar till projekt som stärker svenskt kulturarv.”

Which I roughly translate as:

At the same time the SD is the party that wants to invest most of the new money for culture. They would like to put as much as 200 million extra crowns into a state fund that would distribute money to projects that strengthen the Swedish cultural heritage.

08:01 December 19, 2010 by mikewhite
All the Abrahamic religions share the commandment 'thou shalt not kill'.

All those later people who then say 'ah yes, except when ...' are already reinterpreting a 'holy writing' so let's not have those people who say you must not question the 'literal word'.

Thing is that anyone who says their holy book gives them a licence to kill is seriously misunderstanding their texts and the teaching of their authors.
10:54 December 19, 2010 by qed16
@ Cornelius

Seriously, you are entirely entitled to your opinion and to express it, but can you please at least attempt to make a point and not write these incoherent, rambling diary entries about nothing and your dinner and your music choices?

No one here wants your life's story. If you have a point, make it. Otherwise keep it on topic or write in your journal or something.
11:03 December 19, 2010 by skatty

My argument is that; you and many Europeans don't like to see Muslims in Europe, and may be Americans don't like to see them in US either; that is very good, but I don't get why everybody conclude that Muslims like to see themselves in Europe or US, they don't like it either, why should they like it?

Now, if you ask this question from Swedes, the answer is for social welfare! Iraqis are living in here for social welfare and, as you mentioned the infidel blue eyes pay their bills. Iraq has the second largest oil reservations in the whole world, and Iraqis are richer than Swedes with that oil, everybody wants oil and everybody buy it; they don't even have to advertise to sell oil!

You are talking about Muslim on Muslim violence around the world; I say, let them kill each others, don't Christians kill Christians around the world? They do. What Europe and US suppose to care is the Muslims violence in Europe and US, isn't it? I mean to keep the infidel blue eye safe. Why anybody should care about Saddam, American didn't have to care about it, butcher or not butcher or all butchers.

But do American care about the blue eyes, let see how war on terror started? As far as, I remember, it started internationally after 9/11.

Who were the terrorists? According to Americans Al-Qaeda.

Who the hell is Al-Qaeda anyway? Originally, an Islamic group, created, organized, financed, trained, developed and supported by CIA in Afghanistan to fight against the former communism Russians in 80s. So, you see, the Americans created a collection of all Islamic extremist by their own hands, and are fighting against their own creature around the world! The Iraqis lose their national resources, and the infidel blue eyes get upset to pay their bills, and to be killed in the European streets!

Should I go on! I leave it to you to figure out the rest of the story.
13:08 December 19, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Qed16 the Islamophobe@post#54

I recognise your language, your uncouthness, your low self-esteem, your discontent with who you are and who I am, and your thought streams that have occasionally surfaced under another name. How many pseudonyms do you write under, in the Local?

You surely don't think that I look up to someone like you or that I am about to take directions from a featherless, hate-filled, nincompoop like you, do you? I do not look for intellectual stimulation or moral direction or even uncommon knowledge from you. Nor am I in the Local for that. I discuss serious issues with people who are infinitely more knowledgeable and sometimes more sometimes less directly engaged in the issues that we are discussing, live and direct. So please don't think that I regard blokes like you or the pint pot called “Jes” or the crank “ tercel” as people with opinions that I should waste my time engaging. The later is labouring under a misapprehension that Sweden is the same as Nazi Germany, with regard to the laws of hate speech. In as far as such a not so innocuous idea does no bodily harm to himself or society he can go on expressing that kind of opinion, although I fear for the deterioration of his mental state, as he continues with such blather. Should he arrive at the next logical stage and start agitating that our Honourable Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt is The Führer – and by implication that a member of his cabinet (Beatrice Ask? Carl Bildt? Göran Hägglund ? Anna-Karin Hatt ? Erik Ullenhag? ) is Goebbels, then – still exercising freedom to think and to speak methinks that the mental deterioration would have gone too far ( after all the war is over) and that being the case, perhaps for his own safety he should be locked up in a mental asylum, out of harms way.

On the road to mental self-recovery from the psychosis he could start here:


Get this straight: the Almighty made man in His image and likeness and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, so that he became a living soul.

I love all Muslims who follow and are trying to follow the spiritual path of al-Islam, who believe in the Qiyamat, the Day of Judgment. I will never raise my hand against any such person. I admire all the Muslims who are sincerely making the effort (that's the first and foremost Jihad – the internal struggle with the nafs al-ammarah). I love and admire and respect all Muslims who say Qul Hu-wallaahu Ahad – who worship the One they believe in and love the one they believe to be the one and only Almighty, who love and revere the Prophet of Islam Muhammad Ibn Abdullah, salallahu alaihi wa salaam and his family the ahl ul Bayt, who revere the Twelve Imams, who pray five times a day and perform all the requirements of Ibadat / worship , who observe the fast of Ramadan and other fasts, who pay the poor due, who when they can afford it make the pilgrimage to Mecca and who make Jihad when it is called for.

If you don't like what I write, you can lump it.

Part of freedom and my natural freedom of speech is the right to be me, and to write without direction, supervision, suggestions or interference from you, especially when I am not writing to you, or for you. You don't have to be serious to ignore this post and I am only responding to you out of courtesy and because I was brought up with the best of manners and therefore know how to behave in all kinds of situations and with all kinds of people, including some of the people that it is your passion to discuss or to criticize.

Having sincerely said all of the above, with regard to Hate Speech, you (you plural) could take a look at this which is also relevant and can be discussed:


In my next blog entry I intend to take up the matter of ideology and religion….
13:33 December 19, 2010 by Chickybee
I am afraid that Swedes will have to accept that the Islamists in Sweden will often resort to this kind of expression and even see it as being legitimate.

Islamists won't change. A lot more violence or the threat of violence is the future of Sweden. Moderate Muslims are threatened into silence.

Why is there no outcry about the exodus of Malmo's long established Jewish community being forced to leave?

Another case of Swedes burying their heads in the sand?
16:05 December 19, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
My last post was addessed to qed16 who wrote the above, not to the one who did #54

Your attention please, Post #55:

One thing you can't say about Islam is that it is racist

Through no fault of mine, your scatter-brained attention span and comprehension abilities may not understand coherence and relevance or a point well made even when it meets it face to face in my next blog entry.

From now onwards, if you like you are at liberty to represent Zionism, Jews, Judaism, slavery, Israel, Jesus, the West, anti-terrorism, and all their Redemption ideas, if you are indeed capable of doing that but if you are not, you could seek some assistance because although you know that I am no Edward Said (who was not above criticism) or Ismail al-Farouqi or the reform oriented Abdolkarim Soroush, you are not capable of withstanding the kinds of arguments I can come up with.

Discussions have been a little one-sided, and the forum is now in the doldrums as a result of that. Theoretically and for arguments sake let's stay focused on your favourite themes: let me represent Islam, the immigrant etc and let the Local readers be the judge.




I'm used to discussing. Too bad if some featherless chicken or other doesn't like what I say. As far as writing simple English essays is concerned I am a straight A student and not about to be corrected by some bird-brained Local bum at this late stage, when I put my mind to saying exactly what I want to say. Here again, I'm just chatting - you may call it freedom of speech or anything else you like:

I repeat what I wrote last night and once again here I am celebrating Swedish culture and the Swedish culture personalities and places, in the order in which I mentioned them here:

Café Hörnet in Enskede

Kent Ekberg

Hans Caldaras

Christer Langborn

Lille Printer

Pierre Ström

Svenska Dagbladet

Sweden Democrats

Swedish Cultural Heritage.

Those born into slavery don't know what it's like to be free.

I had been out with my better half and some friends and reported:

I've just had a wonderful evening at Café Hörnet in Enskede. I was pleased that Kent Ekberg greeted me as “gammal bandit” (I was already feeling a little rakish) and was happy to discover Hans Caldaras (backed by Christer Langborn). We were also entertained by Lille Printer's updates and I was particularly thrilled to rediscover Pierre Ström after an interval of some thirty something years.

On Monday I intend to purchase all the music that he's done and that is available….


I was also happy to read in Monday's Svenska Dagbladet:

“Samtidigt överraskar SD med att vara det parti som vill satsa mest nya kulturpengar. Så mycket som 200 miljoner kronor extra vill man stoppa in i en statlig fond som skulle dela ut pengar till projekt som stärker svenskt kulturarv.”

Which I roughly translate as:

At the same time the SD is the party that wants to invest most of the new money for culture. They would like to put as much as 200 million extra crowns into a state fund that would distribute money to projects that strengthen the Swedish cultural heritage.

18:10 December 19, 2010 by motti
one very disturbing and worrying aspect of the Islamic Homocide bomber is the report that he may have only picked up his hatred in London. It is a known fact that mosques in Britain have been caught out for preaching hatred towards Christians and Hindus in general and Jews in particular. The mosques in Sweden have condemned the bomber. How very nice of them.

Please consider this one fact from the UK and decide whether you need to question the Mosques in Sweden and any Moslem schools you may have.

Since 2008, Luton Council have handed out £554,000 of tax payers money to Mosques, Islamic schools and moslem sowen's projects to prevent young Moslems from being radicalised. What was the result of this? The authorities have never received one tip off. We learn today that some people have said the bomber became radicalised. Why did they not report him? Simple answer; they are not allowed to inform on their Moslem brothers and sisters. So said many Islamic leaders. So where does that leave the Iskamic leaders in Sweden, do they have this same attitude? Perhaps, they need to be questionned.
18:44 December 19, 2010 by omansour
Many comments and many points of view which show a mixed reaction to this problem. First of all I think one should ignore reading comments that speak in a general sense. However, I do tend to agree with one 'nice' comment above which says that when you see muslims doing such bombings, people tend to think of muslims as terrorists with a maximum generalizability of such a statement. Anyone with a familiar-thinking style, which in fact the case of many of ourselves, would think just like this. Muslims should not be angry about this fact of having others i.e. westerns think about them this way.

Second, I would strongly argue that most muslims in the arab world would denounce such actions and whether you agree with me or not, this is a subject for discussion and I would invite doubters to visit the arab world and see the reaction by themselves without being driven by the incitement that we often found in many reports of different news agencies, which most often provide an egocentric point of view. At this point, I would say that speaking of muslims as "terrorists" is not something appropriate given the current circumstances in our world. Its clear as much as the sun that there is a war against Islam. Media is attacking Islam, general public tend to express concerns about muslims, etc. Everyone, of course those interested to think about it, should stop for a moment and think why is that? Try to be reflective and more thoughtful beyond what you read, see, or hear in the news.

I would base my comment here by relying on Al qaeda as an example. The "war on terrorism" launched by the USA started in 9/11 against al Qaeda. Unfortunately, these are a bunch of radical muslims who has nothing to do with Islam. Why? Because Al Qaeda is like any other "organization" in the world which seeks to gain power and authority in whatever means. Of course, being natives of the middle easy they use Islam and most importantly they the use the "sentiment" of the general muslim public that is the belief that the west is an enemy of Islam and the west is the evil who wants to steal the wealth of muslims and other bla bla bla. They have of course succeeded by that at least to attract some sick and weak minds and hearts to work with them as terrorists. What is interesting here for westerns is to ask what would the arab public think about al Qaeda? I leave this question to your own investigations, perhaps visit the ME is one way to do that or maybe talk to friends here in Europe or somewhere who are originally middle Easterns. Also, Al qaeda is just one organization that comprises muslims who have their own goals and they just represent themselves, not muslims or even arabs. Can we for example say that Nazis are germans so all germans are Nazis and even Nazis are europeans and then europeans would be conceived as nazis. Similar with the Italian Maffia and the like-minded organizations.
19:01 December 19, 2010 by Arturio
When you have so many muslims immigrant in your country you must accept many risks like when you put your

moneys in the stock market insted to put them in bonds (it's your choice to take the risk).

This isn't the act of a sick mind but the result of a sick ideology of a specific immigrats comunity.

I'm not surprised about what happened in sweden becouse your political integration is not so different from

the political integration of Spain Uk France etc.. where there are the same problems And i dont think you

will ever find the right integrations for these peoples cuz you cant integrate whom come to integrate you.
19:52 December 19, 2010 by qed16
@ Cornelius

(...after scrolling past more of your overwritten blowhard passages, like everyone else.)

Yes, we are all thankful you have turned a news comments pages into your blog.

Opinions biases aside, your inability to express an idea concisely makes you a terrible writer.

I'm assuming it's because you are a non-native speaker who thinks he is one because he took a few English classes...despite your awkward attempts at panache.

Although clearly you think you are brilliant though. Good luck with that.

Proceed with your next 2000 word rambling mess of textual diarrhea that everyone will sigh and scroll past...
21:10 December 19, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

You who are so smart - apart from being paid to hang out here all day, how much do you make – have you made for a living?

Your kind of crap:


What do you know about “ideas”? Do you have any? You want to express the history of a long idea concisely? I don't. You want to compare your IQ with mine, you'll continue as a dangling man. No amount of remedial reading will help.

You know any long or short poems by heart?

You seem fascinated by me and unable to pay attention elsewhere. Why?

This is just one of the areas where you will be burned before you provide fuel for the everlasting bonfire.


I understand the kind of inferiority complex that you suffer from.

Every time you open your crutch you prove how mentally retarded you are – it must be in your genetic code. You've asked for it and you will get it up your anal tube where it usually hurts you the least because you usually enjoy it so much, don't you? Cheers.

You seem concerned about who is “trying “to write or speak or think or what not - who is a “terrible writer” and who is not. I don't think about that. I suppose that literary judgment is your forte and not mine? Does it matter? I have only read your kind of third rate crap and good literature. Listen to and play good music.

Your assumptions about me being a “non-native speaker” doesn't bother me either nor does your language being unpolished and just so much more of your usual dung house variety of English with which you illuminate the poverty of your “thinking.” That too does not bother me at all. I pity you. I suppose that The Local discussion forum is your premier literary habitat? Where your puny, brain dead intellect is allowed to flicker as you pray for the resurrection?

You empire is in sharp decline and will soon disappear with you, over the horizon and below the deep blue sea.

I'm waiting for you to say something substantial about Muslims.. Middle East , whatever. Be good, don't disappoint your godfather
21:36 December 19, 2010 by qed16
@ Cornelius

I'm not the first person to tell you your overblown posts suck as a cursory Google search will reveal...

Maybe at some point it's not everyone else that doesn't appreciate your brilliant Cornelius-ese. It's that your masturbatory posts actually suck.

You are pretentious and overcompensate with trite literary references and your awkward, failed attempts at style.

This makes it easy to target your weak spot: Your overinflated sense of your own intellect that you attempt to foist upon everyone, and which is sadly, delusional.

Poke with stick, watch overcompensating rants ensue. Good fun. Proceed with more please.
22:07 December 19, 2010 by Iraniboy
The fact is there are always some few persons who may are misled to an evil path in their life. This is the same as this guy or the guy in Malmö who was shooting immigrant or the Austrian guy who was raping his daughter for 20 years or those who did 9/11 or those who kill innocent people in Iraq,... have all gone through!

They are all the same. Same mentality, yet medias fail to relate those cases but they relate all cases of Muslims together. None of those terrorists came to ask other Muslims for permission so Stop making all Muslims responsible otherwise the same logic make you responsible for rape and bloodshed in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are human and responsible for our acts not others!
22:21 December 19, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Qed16 whatever your name is, that you are probably ashamed to use,

1. There are a few hundred million people who have English as their native tongue. I am one of them. My daughters have English as their native tongue and speak as properly as Queen Elisabeth II . My son and my wife have Swedish as their mother tongue. I have relatives who have Dutch, German, French, English, Hebrew, Portuguese and especially Yoruba as their mother tongue. There's nothing extraordinary about English being my native tongue because I spent a few years of my childhood in Fulham, London - or in my having a degree in English – conferred by the University of Durham in 1971.

2. I went to school with a whole lot of Americans, Brits, Canadians and Australians who are some of my important friends today. Give me a call. I'm in the telephone directory. Pehaps you would like to talk to me to verify that I'm not from Alabama.

3. I have my favourite writers and poets too you know. Derek Walcott is one. You've heard about him? He is also a native speaker of English. His essay “ Isla Incognita” written in 1973 is one of the most beautiful essays that I have ever read in the English language. You won't find it at Pa Google but between page 51 and 57 of “Caribbean Literature and the Environment”…. It's from his private papers. I can give it to you as a New Year present.


There is no personal rivalry between you and me, about anything. Not about woman, not about money, not about music ( I suppose you can rap like Vanilla Ice?) not about ideas not about certain areas of knowledge.

So you don't like my posts or my blog material. Am I forcing you to read that which you do not like? Why does what I write hurt you so much???????????????

You should muster courage and reserve all the brain cells and good judgment and big ideas that you have for any future discussions which will ensue after you use any of the following words in any of your super posts: Muslim, Islam, Iran, Palestinian…

Perhaps you would like to sign this, I have:

22:54 December 19, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
I spoke in haste with book in hand.

Here's that essay:

23:01 December 19, 2010 by Iraniboy
@Cornelius Hamelberg

I think the language you use for the Xenophobes here is too complicated for them. Xenophobia comes from the fact that uneducated people avoid to comprehend individual responsibleness and instead they try to treat others in groups and hate a group for the acts of some. As a result they only need to use a small capacity of their brains for judgment. So you should use a far simpler words for them to understand.
23:19 December 19, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Thanks Brother.

An islamophobe like qed16 the failed would-be american is a nobody and has nothing to show except to criticize those who are better than him. He doesn't even have a sense of humour. Of course he would much prefer to be in the shoes of Barack Obama so that he can say, " My name is so and so, I am the president of the United States of America ... I went to Harvard “etc. He's pathetic.

As if that will save him from the fire...

I've taken note of your good advice .I'm now ready to kick some ass.
00:40 December 20, 2010 by qed16

You're right. Please stop using such big words. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. Islam rules.


No rivalry and you are entitled to your opinions but if you choose to spam comment boards everywhere and make them your personal blogs you will be called out...

As you've been called out elsewhere... I'm not the first to address it.

But of course you aren't on here to make a real point.

You're here to impress us with your pseudo-intellectual quote dropping and attempts at literary stylings.

We're all very impressed.

You're so smart that we all want to know your musical tastes and what you ate for dinner... On a topical news board. We need to know. Please tell us.

As a matter of fact, everyone needs to know your whole biography.

Because we all know how hard it is to get A's in "advanced" humanities courses. At some second class university. The intellectual rigor bleeds through to your posts. You are a genius.

Tell us more about yourself, please. That's why we're on a news board. Please write another self aggrandizing 2000 word post and show us the way.
08:05 December 20, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Qed16 joined us at the Local here on 24.Mar.2010 ( as qed16) and so far has made 29 posts, the last one at 0.40 this morning when Cornelius was still burning in his heart-mind, probably causing him another sleepless night.

You do not strike me as being an intelligent man. That's your problem. No Harvard.

I know that you think that you are better or would like to be batter than all foreigners and Muslims. You are nothing but a foreigner and a mealy-mouthed and small-minded one at that. And from my point of view not socially adept (as we say in Swedish, you lack “social competence” and a sense of humour.

Who are you?

What are you?


Are you a racist?

What do you know about Islam?

The way you talk about Arabs, Muslims, and foreigners. I am also a”Westerner” you know, probably more than you are. Your present showing is a bad showing. Like someone from the gutter.

You are a simpleton. Everything that you say about me reflects on yourself – even an amateur psychologist can read you like an open book. You are not happy with yourself. No love?

Let me tell you this: in my life so far, I have never been oppressed.

“a cursory Google search” on me? You've got the time. I'm here. What are you searching for? “You're “not the first person” etc. Who cares? “pseudo-intellectual quote dropping and attempts at literary stylings.” What's that supposed to mean and who cares what you or even your grandmother says? “some second class university.”


To want to deny me even my mother tongue is racist and the way you talk about

“other” people is perilously close to being a racist.

Plus all the bullshit you've been saying here for some time now.

I didn't grow up alone - I do have a history - a mother, father, uncle's aunts, cousins, grandparents, and even great grandparents, many relatives, friends, schoolmates, classmates - I do have wife children, grandchildren. They can identify me.

Why are you so obsessed with me?

My freedom and freedom of speech is part of my right to be me, to write the way I want to (without thinking or caring what a semi-illiterate like you thinks (if you can think that is) about it. Style. What is that ? As Steve Biko says, “I write what I like” The same with music (you can't and will never play the guitar like me - nor does it bother me how I do it or that you don't or can't. I suppose that if you are/ were an artist you would have your own style – spontaneously - even compose your own lyrics. Write your own poems, stories, long or short.

I've lived in many different countries Bob.


I'm here to put you in your place whenever you cross the line about people and ideas that are dear to me. Forget about style, footnotes, who and what you are not.

N.B: There's a lot of Arab and Muslim money invested in this country
12:38 December 20, 2010 by qed16
Haha, well initially I simply asked you not to spam topical forums with your inflated biographical rants which seems to be a chronic problem for you.

I must be obsessed with you since I'm asking you to stop inappropriately posting personal info in a topical thread. I'm just playing hard to get, I guess.

And of course, everyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant soccer hooligan with a fifth grade education. Everyone is stupid but you and your "advanced" philosophy courses.

You must really be brilliant since you've told us all SO many times how smart you are.

Sorry to break this to you, but the funny thing about flashing your supposed intellectualism is that it's kind of like flashing money... Old, real money doesn't wave it around, low class new money does.

You're like an 18 yr old who just took his first college literature class and starts dropping references to look smart.

It's a topical discussion. Spare us your bio, your quotes from "the Bard" and continuous declarations of your intelligence. If you have to tell us how smart you are, over and over, you probably don't have it. You might just be an old windbag.

Yes, we all read Shakespeare and Shaw, et al in university. Congrats. Welcome to the club. You can name off writers like a try hard 18 yr old undergraduate.

You are the sketch comedy caricature of a pretentious wannabe intellectual. An educated person will chuckle at your transparent platitudes.

FYI, it doesn't make your occasionally valid points any more credible to repeatedly tell us how smart you are. It makes you look like a guy with an inferiority complex who has to overcompensate with pointless histrionics.

Now, as usual, proceed with another delusional incoherent epic rant bragging about how brilliant you are.

They're super entertaining in an unintended sort of way.

PS - Unlike you I didn't come on here to share my bio, try to pretend my degrees make my arguments more valid or impress anyone.

If you must know, since you keep belligerently asking, I do actually have an Ivy League undergrad degree (not Harvard) and a masters in a field exponentially more rigorous than "advanced" philosophy.

I'm sure you'll call me a liar, but not everyone went to obscure second rate backwater universities with undemanding humanities majors. Which I guess partly explains what you are overcompensating for.

Since you're so smart, maybe my handle should give you a clue what I do if you care so much.
13:31 December 20, 2010 by Roy E
I see there's an article on the lcal today about how Svenska Fatwarådet is condemning the bombing.

Excuse me, but Svenska Fatwarådet?!?

Svenska Fatwarådet?

I suddenly feel the need to vomit. Anger will follow.
13:40 December 20, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

I am not a refugee. I am not aware of having told you or anybody about how smart I am. Where did I do that? With what?

You've made your point numberless times in reaction to what you are incapable of reading, and understanding and taking in your stride. I remain unruffled. It's you who are on display, spending so much time making a fool of yourself with your monomaniac frothing at the mouth. You must have been bullied at school or been the dunce in your class. - hence the resentment. Or you want to be the king of some castle?

Your words “ do actually have an Ivy League undergrad degree (not Harvard) and a masters in a field exponentially more rigorous than "advanced" philosophy. “ - even after I told you what I playfully meant by " advanced philosophy"

As qed 16, you are free to tell any number of lies about yourself. I suppose that's why you are hanging out here bashing foreigners and not at the New York Times and spending so much time being upset about me and there's this gnawing at your sick heart which is therefore rotting so fast. When the heart is sick, the body follows. You will soon be resting in your grave I hope, and I will not disturb you there. The worms will.

The subject matter of the thread is 'Terrorism is a battle of minds not of bombs' – you seem to have lost sight of the subject matter and want to concentrate on me instead.

Compare my contributions to the discussion on this topic – with yours. Just show us what you have contributed to the discussion , apart from throwing a few expletives around.

Here's your record on this thread:


16.Dec.2010, 05:27 PM … your post#16 removed because of your lack of forum decorum :

Comment removed by The Local for breach of our terms.

Your very next comment after that is you Post #31 which begins

“@ Cornelius

Haha, you are an idiot.. “

Your next post #33 says to me: “I see you only believe in free speech for immigrants and terrorists, traitor. You are a terrorist apologist and therefore an accomplice.”... followed by comments such as

“@ Iftikhar

I'm glad you posted to show everyone what a bunch of repressive, imperialistic, fascist, stone age cavemen Muslims really are.”

“ Islam is a cultural cancer that will destroy civilization if left unchecked. It's a violent fascist cult, not a religion “

“What to do in practical terms?

First, stop all immigration from Muslim countries entirely under any circumstances.”

to me:

“please at least attempt to make a point and not write these incoherent, rambling diary entries about nothing and your dinner and your music choices? “

to me:

“your inability to express an idea concisely makes you a terrible writer.

I'm assuming it's because you are a non-native speaker who thinks he is one because he took a few English classes...despite your awkward attempts at panache.

Although clearly you think you are brilliant though. Good luck with that.

Proceed with your next 2000 word rambling mess of textual diarrhea that everyone will sigh and scroll past... “

to me:

“It's that your masturbatory posts actually suck.

You are pretentious and overcompensate with trite literary references and your awkward, failed attempts at style.

This makes it easy to target your weak spot: Your overinflated sense of your own intellect that you attempt to foist upon everyone, and which is sadly, delusional. “

“But of course you aren't on here to make a real point.

You're here to impress us with your pseudo-intellectual quote dropping and attempts at literary stylings.

We're all very impressed.

You're so smart that we all want to know your musical tastes and what you ate for dinner... On a topical news board. We need to know. Please tell us.

As a matter of fact, everyone needs to know your whole biography.

Because we all know how hard it is to get A's in "advanced" humanities courses. At some second class university. The intellectual rigor bleeds through to your posts. You are a genius.

Tell us more about yourself, please. That's why we're on a news board. Please write another self aggrandizing 2000 word post and show us the way. “

And then there's your latest long-winded post to which I am replying. - in which you are bristling with all the complexes that shine through when you think that you are talking to others about me...

If I decide to kick your ass ( no matter where you are, it will remain kicked.)

There seems to be some personal animosity grinding away in your heart and eating you up just a few days to Jesus' birthday when people are supposed to celebrate peace on earth and goodwill to all men. ( By the way, I'm a Jew , not a Christian or Muslim)

What's wrong with you man? You've made your little point over and over again. You think that I'm going to take orders from you? Look, I was very close to the highest authority in my country of birth ( that's why I didn't go to Oxford) and I didn't take orders from him. So who do you think a n obviously low status underprivileged son of bitch like you telling me what to do, how to write – and who told you that Stockholm University is better than Durham?


Where a lot of people cut their teeth and moved on...

What do you know about “ style” ? Practical criticism.? I.A. Richards? Ever heard of F.R. Leavis?

Is it important.

My style is mine , not yours.

You are so slow in getting the point.

This is my 435th posting.

This is my blog in which I write what I like:

13:52 December 20, 2010 by flintis
@Roy E: LOL, got to laugh haven't you, hypocrites. They come here & start setting up their own commitees, wouldn't dream of abiding by the laws of the land.

Thats like the Russians condemning the Nazi's for ethnic cleansing
15:41 December 20, 2010 by Roy E

Ah, but the joke on you. And it's a sick one.

Value systems need to be deeper than platitudes.
18:35 December 20, 2010 by qed16
@ Cornelius

My ax to grind is that you are a forum spammer, plain and simple. I don't care about your "high authority", "comparing IQs" or your dinner plans. You don't HAVE to listen to anyone, you can spam these threads with your personal nonsense since no one appears to be moderating, but SHOULD you?

Anyway, I understand that you are an old man and that any shot at living up to your delusions of intellectual grandiosity are long dead, And that these long winded posts are your last sad attempts to be relevant and perpetuate your unrealized delusions.

But there is this important thing known as internet etiquette. And it has nothing to do with politeness, civility or agreement.

It means staying on topic in a news thread and not telling us what languages your family speaks, your musical tastes or how awesome you are. If this site were properly moderated you would be warned, then eventually banned, for such off topic gibberish...as you should know from experience.

But I do understand that you were already deep into male menopause when the internet came into common use. We do have to explain how these things work to the older folks sometimes...

My grandma used to email pictures of kittens 4 times a day until we explained the concept of spam to her.

So here you go:

Personal Gibberish -> Blogs

Topical News Comments -> News Comment Threads

Hopefully now you understand how it works and can respect it even if you don't "have" to, you rebel.

Spam makes the interwebs cry.

21:12 December 20, 2010 by Njal

Cornelius, Shut-up, no one cares what a self-important toff you believe yourself to be.

qed16 is right, you keep going on about all this other crap that has nothing to do with the thread, all the while trying to publicly congratulate yourself about what a clever fellow you are (try reading your own hype objectively if you can, i.e. no one gives a sh*t how 'rakish' you feel).

Go away Cornelius, and guess what mate? You are not Swedish.
22:10 December 20, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg


Don't you have a sense of shame?

You are free to express every kind of racism and I am not free to have any link that contributes to the sense I'm trying to convey in my post? Is that a commandment?

Start at the beginning. Take a look and see what you have contributed and what I have contributed to the discussion of this topic, and how you have hijacked the discussion and turned tit into something else:


I'm very sad to say that after you reply to this you will get my response and after that the matter will pass on to what you could call “ a higher authority” that's the deal .

Since Chesed is my weakness, let me be kind to you – anything after this will be the kind of Ebonics that will make your broken heart weep behind your spam filter or inside your broken condom, but not with joy. Njal, take note of that. You are also free to ignore what you don't like - as your good shepherd said

"If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.”

How elegant! You can't even be funny…. or charming. You've obviously got myriads of social problems with the racist attitudes that you have been trying to infiltrate into this forum and that's why your post #16 was deleted with this message to you: “Comment removed by The Local for breach of our terms."

Instead of correcting those racist attitudes you want to pontificate about my alleged spamming in this thread.

You know me? You think that you are gaining sympathy here? How many friends do you think that you have in this forum after all your clowning? Lady friends? And trying to put who down? You don't even know how to do one-upmanship! Listen to yourself having fun in just this post, for lack of anything better to do:

“I understand that you are an old man” As old as you? You won't even tell us your name.

“delusions of intellectual grandiosity” -talking about yourself again?

“sad attempts to be relevant and perpetuate your unrealized delusions.” Yours? I don't have any.

“not telling us what languages your family speaks, your musical tastes or how awesome you are” That's what you hear? Me? You're a sad sad case….

“you were already deep into male menopause when the internet came into common use” ( You know me, but do you know your father?? One man's spammer is another man's whore or mother ain't it?

“Rebel” has the wrong clang in my ears. I am no ruffian and in this forum your authority does not extend further than the tip of your pen….

You strayed off the topic long ago and never returned.

You are still trying to get across like the big white supremacist porky intellectual piece of that you are not. You're not even a big white hunter. Showing us your menopausal mind I wonder if you can even get it up (your already senile & menopausal mind) without some medical assistance.

You're still stamping on water. If you go on like this you will sink into your loveless grave like a tone deaf stone sinks in water.

Go to the beginning of the thread, read right through then come back to give us some more of us what you have been yapping about for the past several posts now – or get back to the main subject of the thread sans your racism, your xenophobia, your Islamophobia and your other porky attitudes.

How many times do you have to make the same point - as if you are senile and don't remember what you said yesterday, the day before yesterday and this morning. If it's compliance that you seek from me then know that I'm not that kind of pork hole black boy.

Just like you, your grandmother wasn't hip nor did she come from Martinique, I'm sure. For me, it doesn't matter about your grandmother's knitting you mittens or was it kittens (mine recited by heart, many songs by the “righteous king who wrote psalms beside moonlit streams” – and that was no spamming…
22:59 December 20, 2010 by Njal

We're not the one's leaving replies as long as the 'Ghettysburg address', make your point if you can, but leave your out self-praise as you lost your credibility long ago.
23:04 December 20, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

What did you say?

Not me, but him ; some praise

23:16 December 20, 2010 by Njal

no it was not praise....idiot.
23:41 December 20, 2010 by Njal
@Hornelius Camelberg

as usual, no one understands what the hell you're on about...
00:23 December 21, 2010 by tercel
@ Cornelius

"Free speech? You can go hang yourself and Lars Vilk for all I care."

I have a number of very close friends who were once members of the cult of violence destruction and death better known as islam. Each and every one of them has told me more than several times, "What islam fears the most is free speech". Just look at any islamic country free speech is non existent. The UN passes a law that says you cannot criticize religion BUT the only religion you cannot criticize is islam. Go to any mosque in any moslem country for friday night prayers and christianity, buddhism, hinduism and judaism are virulently attacked.

Cornelius claims to be an ""advanced philosophy student." I meant something more mystical and less mundane..." What he really means is he is he/she is unemployed, living off the the state (the tax payer) and wrapped up in his PC little myopic world of everyone loves everyone multiculturalism and as long as the state pays for it let the good times roll.

I have some news for you - Swedish cultural heritage and you are an insult to islam and when islam takes over and Sweden is ruled by sharia law you will be the one of the first to loose your head. Have a wonderful evening at Café Hörnet in Enskede while you can it really won't last. Terrorism really is a battle of bombs over minds, the islamic terrorists have the bombs and soon they will have your minds, just look how a few bombs changed the way people voted in Spain.

It's so nice that the Swedish government is giving 200 million extra crowns to Swedish art and culture, what a waste of money. Swedish arts and culture is haram to islam. In a generation of 2 at the most by democratic means Sweden will be ruled by sharia law. Then you will really get to know what hate speech is all about.

"One thing you can't say about Islam is that it is racist"

Really, then why is it that jews have been told NOT to go to Malmo? Could it be islamic racism? Why can't the government protect it's citizens? THAT is the first duty of a government and your government is failing. Donald Rumsfeld was right, western europe is old europe, old and on the verge of death by cultural suicide.
01:16 December 21, 2010 by qed16

Okay, Cornelius, I'll leave you alone...

Feel free to run for help to whatever "higher authorities" you need to.

You're right, I'm stupid, my mother's a whore, I made no points at all and was talking about myself. Very clever.

You're right about everything. You win. I give up. I quiver in the presence of your mental dexterity...

Please stop spamming and respect basic internet protocol.

Happy holidays.
04:47 December 21, 2010 by DOZ
If the West wan'ts to defeat this Jihad, they must not take part in it. Only the Moderate Muslim Community can defeat this enemy. The West must arm the Moderates well but at the same time turn their heads to the attrocities of the Biblical Battle that will ensue, this includes silencing the press, the U.N. and the Red Cross. The Moderates will win with as much dignity as the extremists will need in defeat. There is no other way.
05:05 December 21, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Doz ,

Here's some relevance : This resonates with what you're saying:

06:00 December 21, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Dear tercel,

You get personal about me. Good... (Not at all bad) All information is information - even mis-information. We've got no choice but to see the positive in even what that son of a whore is trying to say to me. At least he knows where he came from and to dust he will return with funereal ceremony and full dignity (ah vanity) - and into ashes – all his lust.

It's difficult to see anything positive in the “failed” terror attempt. As survivor Carl Bildt says it could have been “much worse”. However, if we must look for the positive and not just the negative in that failure then the terror in Stockholm was a wake up call.

“She knows there's no success like failure

And that failure's no success at all”

This is the question:


God bless Sweden. Tikkun Olam is the watchword – not personal aggrandisement or marketing diamonds. I have no aptitude for that. I once threw a big one away.

The Almighty has taken care of me and my brother and our families and I have all faith that He will continue to do so. You may call it Bitachon.

I am a “consultant” perhaps a fancy term and doing “project work” perhaps another fanciful term. I live comfortably and there's nothing that I lack. The bathroom was upgraded today to Hollywood standards between this morning and this afternoon. It cost a pretty pile of money which could have been donated to Magen David Adom but I can't complain. My better half wants it that way - its part of my Torah & Kabbalah and I have to live with it.

Angst is the first word that I learned in German. Try to smile if you can, dear tercel – it's good for the health. It will keep you young, fit and strong. Humour is part of my oxygen and it seems that even in the worst of circumstances, I can't do without it. You'd soon notice the difference between me and that son of a bitch making/ proposing an extempore toast - for any occasion. Huma.

Just now I have two jobs and ama looking for more assignments. Next month I will begin and finish a translation and continue creating cash as I pay more tax. Retirement is not too far away and then I will be moving to my favourite country in the Middle East to continue advanced philosophy. I hope to be buried there.

Did that old shyster Rumsfeld (son of a gun) also prevaricate about “Old Europe”?

Richard Perle is more lucid about that.

I'll address the rest of your posting later

It's mind over matter....

15:00 December 21, 2010 by TheFernBrook
@ Syftfel. I did a quick google search on that quote, and there seems to be some confusion who uttered it. Some say it was Kevin Rudd, and others John Howard. I'm not disagreeing with a lot of the sentiment, but I would think that the quote probably belongs to John Howard. He was a very wily politician who knew damn well how to play the race/religion/fear card for votes.
18:24 December 21, 2010 by Njal

Only about 1 paragraph of all the tripe you wrote had anything to do with the thread (surprise), battle over minds for bombs sound familiar, and do you honestly feel, that we need to know as to whether or not your bathroom is up to hollywood spec.s?

You are a conceited buffoon Cornelius, who has prospered because he has lived in the West, not your native Nigeria/Ghana or where ever the hell you 're from. One thing is for sure, you are not Swedish, and if you are as educated as you claim, it was not in Africa that it happened now was it. But you think to give the Swedes advice on some nonsense about going out to reassure muslims. Since you are not Swedish, you have no place counselling them to do this or that, or any other course of action. You are a foreigner living amongst them who has prospered (not because of any African society presumably), and thought yourself fit to do so. You are not. You are a son of Africa living amongst a foreign people, who are not your people, however you may wish to deceive yourself.

Also, if you love Sweden so much, why are you planning on spending your final years in your favorite middle eastern country (not that I care). Go there now and save all of us the wait.
22:02 December 21, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Worry not. You will hear from me no more. I leave you and the Local to yourselves and the diversity of your opinions...

Thanks and good bye.
22:13 December 21, 2010 by Njal
*You will hear from me no more

Is that a promise, only took you 92 posts
19:23 December 25, 2010 by skatty
@ Cornelius Hamelberg Post #58

I did the post #55, and I don't get what you mean with my scatter-barined attention…!

Anyway if you are interested to get a basic understanding about what I am talking about, then I suggest you to read this book:

The New Imperialism (Clarendon Lectures in Geography and Environmental Studies) By David Harvey.
14:41 December 26, 2010 by AHA
What a surprise this creature must have ancountered when he found himself in HELL instead of Heaven like he was promised by some evil bearded men.
19:18 December 28, 2010 by buckrogersday
Comment removed by The Local for breach of our terms.
02:59 December 29, 2010 by svenskamerikansk

Well, that's his problem. He has lots of company to commiserate with. Thousands of suicide jihadis have preceded him. What's our problem is that many of his like minded buddies will be joining him in the future, some of whom will be much more effective in taking innocent lives along with them in the name of their 'Allah'.
13:15 December 31, 2010 by AussieAndy
@Syftfel post #12

Your quote for Julia Gillard is not real. It was a hoax email that has been circulating since about 2005. The orginal email quoted John Howard.

Copy of hoax email


Fake news story

18:10 January 9, 2011 by tomas R

Stupid an author of this text: "terrorism is the battle of minds, not of bombs". If poeple were killed after terrorist act how he could say so. It is the battle of bombs. I think so. The big question is HOW TO STOP THIS BATTLE?
03:33 January 12, 2011 by somethingbrite
Terrorism is not new in the world, it is not even new in Europe.

I can think of at least 2 native european terrorist organisations that have probably killed and maimed more than all the muslim terrorist atrocities in europe combined.

Indeed, in Northern Ireland we witness sectarian hatred and territorial ambition turned into fire and blood.

In Spain we witness the territorial ambition of a group of people so small they could very realistically be seen as an actual tribe manifest itself in bombings and shootings.

You can probably still get beaten up in Glasgow for being a Catholic in a Protestant bar, and two generations ago a Catholic would have had trouble getting work in certain professions.'

In my lifetime I have witnessed (to my shame) a European nation tear itself apart along ethnic/tribal and sectarian lines with all the ugliness, rape and torture that go hand in hand with a conflict of that nature.

There is much ugliness in the hearts of men, be glad you did not live in Yugoslavia in the 1990's and cast your mind back to that, and all the other acts of sectarian and ethnic hatred that occur in europe alone before you make statements regarding the tendency of "muslims" to engage in "muslim on muslim" tribal conflict.
02:03 March 18, 2011 by Patriot1742
There is a problem and it is within the Muslim community - people can keep pretending that it is not - but the truth is - that is where the problem lies. The Muslim people need to address the fact that their religion has been hi-jacked. The problem does not lie within a small group - the Muslims who flew the planes into the twin towers, who flew planes into the Pentagon, and who flew the plane into ground in Pennsylvania were not poor , uneducated people - they were at least middle class men who were very educated. This problem needs to be solved within the Muslim community - Australia has the right idea - go somewhere else and if you so choose to blow yourself up - OK.
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