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Man fined for Nazi salute

TT/The Local/gm · 27 Aug 2011, 11:31

Published: 27 Aug 2011 11:31 GMT+02:00

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The 37-year-old man was arrested during the spring by security guards outside the Sports Restaurant in Växsjö, making the universally recognised arm raised salute and shouting Nazi slogans. Around 15 guests complained when the man, who admitted that he was under the influence of alcohol and has a habit of talking about Nazis when he is drunk, made the gestures.

The 37-year-old, who was found guilty and fined 2,400 kronor, added that although it is not unusual for him to do such things, he had no memory of events on that particular evening, reports Smålandsposten.

It is the second time in successive months that someone has been charged with the offence, which is classified as hate crime.

In a case heard in July, a 16-year-old boy from Västra Götaland in southwest Sweden was also found guilty of the same offence after he was caught making gestures in a McDonald's restaurant in Alingsås in early April.

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The boy admitted the charges of hate crime but denied another of causing criminal damage after a window in the restaurant was smashed.

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15:05 August 27, 2011 by jimmyjames
I got to tell you if you people in Sweden in particular and Europe in general are seriously worried about Nazism having a resurgence then criminalizing gestures is not, repeatm not going to accomplish didily squat. Do you all really think that there are a significant numbers of the EU populations that would be receptive to Nazi ideology ? I am also wondering if you classify someone calling another "comrade" as a hate crime ? The communists after all have the Nazis beat on body counts, social destruction and the obliteration of personal freedom when one adds up communist atrocities in The Soviet Union, Communist China, North Korea, Cuba, and the others. How about the giving someone the ole "middle finger salute", known world-wide as the F---k - you sign ? If someone kills or rapes in your country you act like you regret having to punish them but if a kid, a drunk, or a dumb-ass gives a lame nazi salute your whole government rides like gang busters. Are you people in need of medication or what ? Seriously, get your priorities in order and stop being so damn scared of everything. America is here to protect you from those evil nazis and those godless communists. We beat all their ass before and we will again if the need arises rest assured of that fact.
16:39 August 27, 2011 by JohnAndersson
Great, next the thought police will start arresting us for thoughts. If we have no freedom of expression or speech, even for those things hateful and distasteful then we have no freedom at all.
18:57 August 27, 2011 by Tysknaden
The fine should be ten times higher.
20:08 August 27, 2011 by Svensksmith
Hey, I'm giving that guy the finger. Hope I'm not arrested.
20:22 August 27, 2011 by hjoian
@jimmy james. You sure about that? Exactly whos ass was beat,and where were you when that all happened??
20:32 August 27, 2011 by guliver
Also when Hitler started his meetings in the Bier Pubs of Muenchen many laughted at him and called him crazy, he was also arrested and put in Jail there he wrote Mein Kampf,just to say that the sociaty should not take those people too easy ,the sociaty must be carefull because the Nazi movment developed slowly from 1924 to 1933,,so the right of speech must be giving for everybody allways keeping in mind possibily future unwanted developments
20:52 August 27, 2011 by old git
jimmyjames i would agree with a lot of what you say but its not fear that pushes swedish establishment (for want of a better word, sounds like monsieur LePen) in this case. its trying to be soooo politically correct and also ttrying to keep their conscience clear for their passive collusion with nazi germany.

also the US and its allies seem to be doing more harm than good in a lot of places lately...so don't throw too many stones....
23:57 August 27, 2011 by truthworthy
Although i dont agree with his actions...I think it is double standard to arrest people for these kinds of things while claiming freedom of expression in other cases. Stop the hypocrisy!!!!
00:30 August 28, 2011 by GLO
People have a right in free country's to express themselves. Nazi Germany took away this right, just look in the short space of time and now Sweden is like the very govt they say is bad. Sweden you have lost your freedom.
00:50 August 28, 2011 by ajs42548
I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it.... Voltaire
01:48 August 28, 2011 by muscle
whatever happened to freedom of speech crap?
02:50 August 28, 2011 by Luke R D
Stupidity, perhaps. A criminal offense? Absolutely not. This is setting a dangerous precedent. I find religious institutions manipulative and controlling and just outright offensive, does this mean "Allahu Akbar", "God Bless you" and other things like this next? I hope not!

Nineteen Eighty Four is here, folks. The Thought Police have clocked on thought crime is on the rise.
06:01 August 28, 2011 by Jim__in_Vietnam
This is an awful law! Heck, the common salute used by socialists in Asia resembles the Nazi salute (Except the arms are bent at the elbow.)

Sweden must not have confidence in its people nor its institutions if it truly fears a revival of national socialism a la Hitler. The woods are full of nuts, and of course there will be those who imitate Hitler. But that behaviour is designed to get people's attention. Just brat children acting up. Nothing to fear...just to pity.
08:07 August 28, 2011 by Borilla
@jimmyjames and others

Apparently, you are forgetting what just happened in Norway or a few years ago in Oklahoma. In a country that is fast filling up with neo-nazis and born again survivalists, your point of view is common I guess. After all two of your leading candidates for president believe the world should be brought to an end as soon as possible in a great cataclysm leaving millions starving and dying in pain. Try straightening out your own nest before sticking your nose in someone else's.
09:43 August 28, 2011 by conboy
Sweden - USA whats the difference?
11:18 August 28, 2011 by calebian22

Fast filling up with neo-nazis? What country are you talking about? Certainly not Sweden or the US for that matter. Exaggerations are only effective as long as someone doesn't call BS. I call.
14:25 August 28, 2011 by Tysknaden
To reduce the number of "armraisers" and neonazis in Sweden... a better education at school would be more helpful, than taking fines, probably.

In fascist Germany:

Alkoholismn was officially considered a symptom of degeneration. A mental disease and a sign of inferiority. - This meant, the therapy was euthanasia in a gas chamber.
17:48 August 28, 2011 by Grokh
stupid guy, but the funny part is if he had said death to the west no one would even mention him.
18:42 August 28, 2011 by Tysknaden
Actually... he said it. People like him are the lefties and multiculturalists favorite tool to prevent conservatives from protecting the standards of modern western civilization.
19:40 August 28, 2011 by sherkovic
oh well. I thought that was freedom of expression :P :D
20:53 August 28, 2011 by Token-not-found
Dangerous precedent , even if we hate people like this, we have to defend their rights to manifest , next time they could arrest you for voicing your opinion.
22:17 August 28, 2011 by johnny1939
Oh boy, I am in real danger here since these days it is politically incorrect to be an ass.....better stay home
01:52 August 29, 2011 by mkvgtired

@jimmyjames and others

Apparently, you are forgetting what just happened in Norway or a few years ago in Oklahoma. In a country that is fast filling up with neo-nazis"

And you think making the Nazi solute or any other Nazi gesture/books/speech illegal will slow this trend down (if it does exist)? Highly doubt it.
09:51 August 29, 2011 by Franciscodeflores
I have ambivalent feelings about outlawing a gesture but then here in the U.S. we are forced to be tolerant of all manner of idiocy and as a result have morons and charlatans who run for public office and win if the corporations bank roll them.
14:01 August 29, 2011 by soultraveler3
Sweden just needs to stop claiming that they support and have freedom of speech and be done with it. Part of freedom of speech is sometimes putting up with idiots spouting off stupid things.

Btw, I've seen young(er) swedes in Stockholm and up farther in Sweden going around doing the nazi walk, salute and yelling hiel Hitler then laughing about it multiple times. It seems to be a pretty common joke to Swedes.
11:11 August 30, 2011 by johnny1939
I say it again Swedes are horrible hypocrites(not me of course because I have spent most of my life abroad).
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