• Sweden's news in English

Court sets date to rule on Assange extradition

AFP/The Local · 28 Oct 2011, 14:03

Published: 28 Oct 2011 14:03 GMT+02:00

Facebook Twitter Google+ reddit

"The High Court will hand down judgment in the above case at 9.45am on Wednesday 2 November 2011 at the Royal Courts of Justice, London," said a statement.

Assange was arrested in London in December on a Swedish extradition warrant and is currently living under strict bail conditions at the mansion of a supporter in Britain.

He announced this week that WikiLeaks has been forced to suspend publishing classified files after a funding blockade and could have no option but to shut down by the end of the year.

The whistleblowing website has seen its funding plunge by 95 percent due to an "arbitrary and unlawful financial blockade" mounted by companies including Visa and MasterCard since December last year, Assange said.

The former computer hacker denies the allegations made against him by two Swedish women, arguing that they are politically motivated.

His lawyers argue that his extradition would be "unfair and unlawful".

WikiLeaks has infuriated Washington by releasing tens of thousands of classified diplomatic files allegedly obtained by a US serviceman who is now in prison in the United States.

Many of the files relate to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan while others contain frank and sometimes embarrassing assessments of world leaders made by US diplomats.

British judges hearing Assange's appeal against extradition to Sweden deferred their judgement in July.

In that hearing, lawyers representing Swedish prosecutors rejected claims that a rape allegation against Assange, made by one of the women, would not be valid under English law.

Story continues below…

Swedish lawyers accused Assange's legal team of "winding English law back to the 19th century" with their definition of consent.

Assange's lawyers have also claimed that the European warrant under which he was arrested was invalid because he is only wanted for questioning and has not been charged by Swedish authorities.

AFP/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

Facebook Twitter Google+ reddit

Your comments about this article

15:18 October 28, 2011 by Liquidmonkey
wow, this is STILL going on?

how can someone who hasn't been formally charged of ANYTHING still be going through this?

corruption runs deep everywhere it seems.

i feel sorry for you julian.
15:19 October 28, 2011 by N0DE
Democratic Countries putting a guy in jail just because Master (US) ordered it. ....... Where is Freedom of Speech? oh well, you can express that freedom against particular nationalities and religions ....
16:42 October 28, 2011 by RobinHood
If Swedish prosecutors can not get a conviction after all this, Sweden is going to be the laughing stock of the world.

I am sure the Swedish prosecutors will not let that interfere with the way they handle the case.
16:52 October 28, 2011 by zoroastrina
This ultra-farcical travesty of "justice", this kangaroo court is totalitarian and fascistic.
17:49 October 28, 2011 by Imperor
In Sweden there's no such thing as "Innocent until proven guilty" here you are guilty if the Police and prosecutor says so and evidence be damned, that's up to you to produce!

I've had several trials myself and that is how it always work. If the prosecutor has brought it to court, you're not getting off, because then that would prove the prosecutor wrong, and we can't have that! :-(

The prosecutor tells it "as it is" and then the attorney pleads for leniency before the court sentences. Questioning guilt is pointless, unless you're a cop yourself in which case you can do whatever you want, such as firing a gun wildly into a fleeing crowd.

There is no justice in Sweden.
18:16 October 28, 2011 by Archie1954
This whole criminal investigation is politically motivated and managed in Washington. If Sweden is an independant and democratic country it must refrain from slavishly obstructing its own legal process due to US pressure. Remember that the original complaints were dismissed by the prosecutor when she heard them. Suddenly government officials get involved and it is back on again. This whole peresecution, for that's what it is, does not pass the smell test. A government that will corrupt its own judicial system to accomodate a foreign belligerant should be forced to resign en masse.
20:45 October 28, 2011 by nicmart
Let him go. Sweden should not be complicit in the efforts by the Brits and Americans to suppress transparency about the "war on terror."
21:13 October 28, 2011 by johnoleson

Ask the US Army private Bradley Manning, who initially released the secret info to begin with if this is a violation of free speech? Generally this type of thing isn't covered under freedom of speech but is considered espionage. Assange on the other hand has been victimized under Sweden's vague and convoluted rape laws.
21:15 October 28, 2011 by Kenny W
Assuming that the investigation against Julian Assange is political motivated helps some people to understand this circus. Politics could have played apart after the initial decision but Marieanne Ny as a Swede is fully capable of doing this all by her self. Her decision wasn't negated because in Sweden bystanders to such stupidity usual remain passive.

Some Swedes have terrible trouble making difficult decisions. They panic and any chance of a good decision gets replaced by misfiring neurons badly controlled by the cerebellum. (I would bet my life's worth that a controlled experience with an MRI scan could prove my claim).

Marieanne Ny should have been processing the facts of the case in accordance to the Swedish law. She should have been thinking about the precedent that she was setting up for the future. However when Marieanne Ny re-enstated the investigation, her mind was occupied by the Homer Simpson monkey banging its cymbals. She acted on a cultural impulse to protect woman. She saw that monkey dressed in a bikini hanging off a cartoon cliff and she had to rescue it.
21:39 October 28, 2011 by sgt_doom
Let's hope justice is finally realized, for we all know if Wikileaks' Assange is extradited back to Sweden, he will either next be extradited, or extreme renditioned, back to the USA for the death penalty there.

Nov. 2nd could be the most expensive day in the history of both Sweden and the UK --- although I'm sure nobody in either of those two countries would ever miss their Internet and WWW access, now would they?????

NUMBER OF OCCUPY "the banksters" sites around the planet: 2300, and counting....
22:17 October 28, 2011 by N0DE
@johnoleson > Exposing some evil government (US) doesn't come in freedom of speech....... Assange has been victimized on the order of Big Brother (US)
23:09 October 28, 2011 by hawkeye ajustralia
The peace and prosperity enjoyed in Europe over the last 60 years is due to two things...one the US Marshall Plan, which financed the rebuilding of a shattered Europe while the US opened wide it's huge and lucrative trading, doors which benefited her former enemies at the expense of her own industries. The second thing was the presence of US forces in Europe, and the American nuclear shield, which ensured that Red armies would not be marching further through Europe.

Having liberated hundreds of millions of subjugated Europeans from a brutal German occupation, the US fed and financed them provided the ways and means to wealth and prosperity while defending them at the same time - you would think that Europeans would be a little grateful to the US, but no the reverse is all too true, especially by Germany and France -the very nations who have caused the bulk of European instability and war causalities.

Assange is nothing but a criminal hacker who has exposed those giving information re the security of allied armed forces and friendly governments to the enemies of the free world.It's impossible to believe that anyone in their right mind would condone a bunch of leftists hackers determining what secrets of our governments should be exposed to our enemies.You people really need to enter the real world and look around you at what is happening especially on your own continent.

As an Australian and having once enjoyed the hospitality of Americans for half my life - I take great offence at your absolutely grossly ignorant and stupid blog postings - You blame Americans for deaths caused by the Islamic insurgents themselves, while the Americans are spending tens of billions of dollars building infrastructure - roads, schools and hospitals etc. And when the Taliban in Pakistan gains control over the country's over 100 nuclear weapons you had better pray that America can stop them cold,because these religious psychopaths will not hesitate to use them on you Europeans.

You Swedes also take advantage of an American technology and medicines etc. and then turn around and damn Americans in the most disgusting display of anti -Americanism I have ever seen anywhere. And you have done it while ensconced safely under the protection of the US Military shield.

Mark Steyn once said about self-appointed moralists -"safe inside the citadel of Western freedom, economic propriety, and the United States military, who, from the very ramparts they damn, praise the enemy ramming the gates below."

Personally I find you Swedes, and in fact all Europeans as a bunch of whining leftist losers.You have contributed absolutely nothing in defense of the free world but do all you can to undermine the one country on the planet that does the most to ensure your freedom. Remember - Without America there is no free world!
00:03 October 29, 2011 by Opinionfool
This will be a lose-lose scenario whichever way the English court decides. Trial by media is not justice. Whether or not Assange committed the crimes he has been accused of is irrelevant in one sense. He cannot now get a fair trial either in England for the extradition hearing or in Sweden, should he be sent back, because of all the press speculation.

The women at the centre of the case may have indeed been raped --- though under English law that charge would not and could not be brought, if the press reports are correct, because the events do not justify such a charge but Sweden law is different. Indeed as has been published here on The Local lately there are weird legal definitions in Swedish law; molestation cannot occur unless the person being molested is awake when it occurs!

Unfortunately for Assange there is no get-out-of-jail card anymore. He authorised the publication of the unredacted cables. Now that anyone can download the CSV file containing the original cables, use the password that "encrypts" the content and read the cables for themselves there is nothing for him to bargain with should the inevitable happen and the CIA get their grubby and blood-soaked hands on him.
00:12 October 29, 2011 by Kenny W
Hawkeye Ajustralia,

You just nail it. Didn't you. Your description of the history of America's input in socio and political history of Europe is correct but unfortunately we don't live in the decades that you describe. The America that liberated Europe in the Second War or protected Europe during the Cold War is not the America of today. Even most Americans would agree with that and we surely should not excuse the despicable behaviour of the Bush governance and administration of the Iraq War based on America's previous greatness.

You are right about the dangers of Pakistan having nuclear weapons. I would have like for America to keep their moral authority and such actions to resolve this issue would be easier.

As for Europeans being whining Leftist losers. Well I've been to Australia recently and if any country is to be classified as cultural moaners or complainers well I am sorry it's you Aussies. HIgh standard of living and heaps of sunshine and beautiful nature but your fellow country men still cry about the cost of living and the small government debt that your country accrued while your 'leftist' government saved the country from the effects of the economic crisis.

Your rant sound exactly like what I would hear from right wing oppositional leader Tony Abbot who would have to be one of the biggest idiot politician in all of human history. Hey and that's current history.
00:13 October 29, 2011 by hawkeye ajustralia
Assange Continued... If a Swede was to smear the Muslim immigrants to Sweden as you do America every day, they would probably be arrested for "hate speech"

Yet as former British Hong Kong Governor Chris Patten said...

"If America didn't exist, we'd have to invent it: upon what other convenient scapegoat could we so conveniently load our sins and dump our garbage? Where else would we find such a place to whitewash the crimes of the planet, since anything that goes wrong on earth, from global warming to terrorism, can be laid at America's door?

It's a stroke of good luck for a dictatorship or a criminal gang finally to be chased down and singled out by the United States. It gains them immediate sympathy, the goodwill of all for whom, in Chris Patten's words, "the only authorized racism in the modern world is anti-Americanism." We don't doubt it for a moment: if the June 1944 landings were happening today, Uncle Adolf would enjoy the sympathy of innumerable patriots and radicals of the extreme left with the excuse that Uncle Sam was aiming to crush them. "

As for free speech -just what has Sweden done to have the luxury of free speech as you practice today? The US in two world wars, the cold war and in general fighting those who would take away your free speech has lost hundreds of thouasands of young American lives and spent trillions of dollars doing so. How many lives has Sweden lost defending European liberty and free speech...Any at all ?

And if an agressor were to threaten Sweden tomorrow, what nation would be first there to defend you"And don't count on that useless NATO because it could not even maintain a very minor engagement in Libya without America.

Europeans should not get too smug about the good times because they will be soon over, with a PC multicultural Europe being swamped with an ever growing Muslim population which already taking over major European cities, and projections show that most of cities in Europe will have Muslim majorities by 2050 (Worldwide 50% of people under 21 will be Muslims) and that means Sharia Law.

In the meantime in the opinion of this Australian, the European people should be getting down on their knees every day and thanking the good people of the United States for their prosperity and ongoing freedoms.
00:59 October 29, 2011 by N0DE
@hawkeye ajustralia > You are brainwashed by media. The only country which used NUCLEAR Bomb over another country was America.

In order to use nuclear bomb you need to master sophisticatedly technology + immense knowledge is required. Those living on the mountains , uneducated people hardly know what a nuclear bomb looks like. Why would Taliban use Nuclear weapons over others if other countries are not bothering them. Why are they not against Russia or China ? Why are they only against US?

FYI> Some important facts in order to realize the importance of your beloved US:

1. Americans created Talibans

2. Americans Fuded Talibans for 2 decades

3. Americans brought Al-Qaeeda to Aghanista and Pakistan, funded them

4. Americans first funded Sadam in 80s with money and weapons, used him to attack Iran and then turned against him and Occupied his own country.

5. When Empire starts capturing useless countries and timeless wars then their time will come to an end. Same is happening to US.

6. No one EVER in the histroy of world has established control over Afghanista and Americans are stupid enough to think about such things.

Did Americans served the world any good by establishing , funding and raising Talibans and Alqaeeda ? World was better place before 9/11. However, because of 9/11 there will only one countries which will lose that is US.
04:25 October 29, 2011 by johnoleson
Dear NODE,

Let me follow your logic:

1) the only country to use a nuclear bomb is the US and the US is bad so no other country would use them?

2) Mountain folk could never operate a nuclear bomb-it's just too high tech?

3) Radical Islam would never use a nuclear bomb against any undeserving nation only the US?

4) Americans created and funded Talibans and Al-Qaeeda and Sadam and therefore are responsible for all their actions?

You attribute almost magical power to the US when it comes to creating evil entities. Does anyone honestly believe the World would live in peace and prosperity if the US were gone?
07:19 October 29, 2011 by hawkeye ajustralia
johnoleson.It's refreshing to see someone on this blog who actually is of sound mind and I do not include you in the following.As you can see though the ranting of the majority of these bloggers is quite incredible.They are so stupid and childish they are not worth a riposte and they also deny the obvious.

When Jens Orback, Democracy Minister in the Swedish government, said during a radio debate: "We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us." then you Swedes should have known it was all over for Sweden.You have almost lost your culture and national identity. In the case of Sweden though,that's probably not a bad thing, because it appears most of you Swedes have an inferiority complex -make that a Napolean complex and you are just American haters who never stop spewing your anti American bile while your country goes down the toilet of multiculturalism.

As someone once said "Sweden is a Eurabian horror story of utopian multiculturalism, Socialist mismanagement and runaway immigration."

In his book "Disuniting of America" Liberal historian Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. speaks out against radical multiculturalism. 'The rising cult of ethnicity, he argues, threatens a common American identity, imperilling the civic ideals that traditionally have bonded immigrants into a nation."and that's exactly what has happened to Sweden.
11:03 October 29, 2011 by Kenny W

You tick off NODE for making statements that 'almost give America a mythical power for creating evil'. However your statements suffer from the same imbalance.

You make America sound like the White Knight; who is the only purveyor and authority of peace and justice, and prosperity in the mortal world. And your statements also portrays people as thoughtless and powerless on issues concerning their own social and economic stability. It as if you and Hawkeye Ausjtralian want humanity to get our ambition from the American political and military complex and not the valves that established these institutions.

I, on the other hand, believe in the individual to be responsible for their own situation with recognition that we live in communities so we are also have responsibilities. I support WikiLeaks because its methodology assume that most (if not all) human beings are capable critical thinkers who with more transparency have a better foundation to contribute to the peace, justice and prosperity of the world.

WikiLeaks isn't a Left Wing hacking organisation as you two guys would assume. It is actual more American than modern day America.

If people are sick of the debate that merely divide lines between Left and Right, and / or debates conducted with mere statements of opinion from other people who we assume to be authorities on particular topics (as Hawkeye A. does) well get involved in WikiLeaks. Being able to understand the how and why decisions are made by governments and corporates does't make them inoperable. It makes them more accountable and more inclined to make better decision for the community. If more factual information is available for debate, and we get rid of the saturation of opinion articles in the media, then the individual has a better foundation to be a part of a quality discussion. WikiLeaks could become the best chance that we have had for centuries to increase the standard of our critical discourse.
12:34 October 29, 2011 by Nomark

I'm not sure its shocking that so many who leave comments have little grasp of history and show an ugly anti-American racism. By definition those who comment are a self-selecting sample who feel they have something to say. The internet has given them a freedom to preach which they otherwise wouldn't have had and they take it. They are also notable in that they put forward opinions which they take to be such an unassailable truth that they refuse to debate when faced with well motivated counter arguments. Instead they go ad hominem: their opponent is brainwashed, a US-lackey, stupid etc etc.

Regarding US involvement in European history, this of course didn't end after the Cold War. The US put a stop to the Bosnian war after a year or so of European hand-wringing (risking US lives to save Muslim lives, funny how this rarely gets mentioned). It intervened again in Kosovo following more hand-wringing. Even now it still stations substantial forces in Europe and contributes to a security which many absurdly take for granted. We may well feel differently should Moscow suddenly become a bit more assertive as it has long threatened to be (those nuclear weapons never went away). I rather suspect we'd be begging the US to stay and defend us then.
13:02 October 29, 2011 by Kenny W
Nomark, Hawkeye och Johnoleson,

You are no different to the people that you correctly criticize. I have myself often told off Swedish people who simplify and who conveniently forget the good that America's social, economic and military contributed to the European region. However I can't just fill my head with those examples and claim that this means that American actions are always responses based on principles of fairness and justice. Evidence would suggest otherwise.

You should all take that embarrassment that feel about the Iraq War and turn it into something useful so that you can do what you can so that your great America doesn't make same mistakes in the future.
13:34 October 29, 2011 by Torpedo
Down with the U.S puppets.

Hail Assange.
20:00 October 29, 2011 by Nomark
@Kenny W

Can you back up your statement that I am no different to those I criticise with some evidence ?

You seem to think that those of us point out America's substantial contributions to Europe somehow think that "this means that American actions are always responses based on principles of fairness and justice".

I don't quite follow the logic here ? Why do you think I think that one implies the other ? It seems to me that you're putting forward a rather silly strawman argument.
20:55 October 29, 2011 by local yocal

What a lark to find you this evening ingaged on a Swedish/English site. Don't waste too much of your good time here, actually a bit beneath your dignity. All the best, Johnny. Muah...
21:33 October 29, 2011 by N0DE
Simple question> Who gave Yankees right to become Global Policeman?

Stop watching Cnn/BBC, they are brainwashing people and breeding hate against countries while hiding the crimes conducted by US or UK
22:48 October 29, 2011 by hawkeye ajustralia
Nomark you are absolutely correct .Too bad your fellow countrymen can only criticize the US because they have been fed socialist crap all the way through school and it's just compounded by the leftist media in Europe.

Node asks Who gave Yankees right to become Global Policeman? They do by default.Someone has to defend the west and it sure as hell will never be Sweden or any other European country.


When the A bomb was invented no one really knew just what the effects were. After Okinawa and Iwo Jima where the US had over 200 ships sunk or damaged, the allies knew that the landings in Japan were estimated to cost 1 million allied soldiers lives because the Japanese population was going to fight to the death. The Japanese were warned that America had this weapon and gave them the option to surrender. The warnings were ignored and the US dropped the first bomb.So why didn't the Japanese surrender right then and there? You can sit smugly,cosy and warm and self righteous sipping a latte behind your PC, but if you were one of the hundred of thousands of allied troops that had to land on Japanese beaches and endure Kamikaze planes and suicide attacks you would not be so smug and judgemental.

And why should one more allied soldier have died taking Japan? Why should one more allied family have lost their father or son fighting a ruthless barbaric enemy? Japan attacked China and then the US and Britain in an undeclared and unprovoked war, yet you want the allies to fight with kid gloves on and lose hundreds of thousands of troops at least just so you can feel fuzzy and warm and pleased with your oh so magnificent humanity, unlike those barbaric Americans who should have had the decency to slug it out foxhole to foxhole, house to house. How dare they take a short cut and end the war to save allied lives

And FYI. America gave the Japanese their democratic constitution and help rebuild Japan to what it is to the powerhouse of today.

Incidentally what part did Sweden play in the liberation of the nations in the Pacific? Oh I forgot -neutral so there was no chance of any sanctimonious Swedes dying on the beaches of Japan. And while your Great Satan Americans were fighting and dying for the liberation of Europe and the Pacific, neutral Sweden's economy was almost fully integrated into the Nazis' New Order; Sweden supplied Germany with high-grade iron ore (30 percent of that used by the German armaments industry), as well as ball bearings, foodstuffs, wood, and many other raw materials. In matters of finance, the Swedes cooperated with Germany by providing credit, which allowed the delivery of vast quantities of military equipment to the Wehrmacht..

Geez -no wonder you Swedes bash America. With a history like yours. I too would be ashamed and want to turn attention to another country...And where better than America?
00:37 October 30, 2011 by expatjourno
Hawkeye, as an American, I can assure you that you have been brainwashed. The United States of today is nothing like the United States of the 1940s and 1950s. Eisenhower would be considered too politically liberal today to even win the Democratic Party nomination.

Here and now is what counts.
00:46 October 30, 2011 by Liquidmonkey
wow, way to get off topic people.

sheeeeeesh, this place needs a few mods.
01:05 October 30, 2011 by Kenny W

Strawman arguments you say. Out of all that I wrote in relation to your thread and your fellow bloggers (John. and Hawke.), what you decide to approach me with is my assumption that the Americanism that you support is based on fairness and justice.

To tell you the truth I am one of those ignorant lefties that you despise so much. I was bored and I had no patients of writing a honest blog so I set out just to see how much ranting crap I could entice out of Hawkeye Ausjraltian. That was entertaining and my fellow readers of this blog got to learn a heaps of interesting stuff, and he is still writing.

My logic comes from the following: not once did you or your blog buddies mentioned or show any consideration for why this anti-Americanism has grown over the last decade. So I already knew that the Americanism that you talked about had nothing to do with fairness and justice. I just wanted to hear one you say it.

Why should we have to listen to such rants that supports a country responsible for the War that become a corporation-money-pig-feast, that killed so many civilian, that awarded military contracts to certain politicians and took valuable money away from the American people. If America has lost respect around the world well it's their own fault. Your apologetic attitude and historical reminiscence wont convince anyone.

Many of us are worried about what type of Americanism will exist in the future. You have already told us that it does not necessary have to be about justice or fairness. So what will be the reason for the next conflict? Corporate Need!

As for the great USA protecting us Europeans, I would rather use the straw from my arguments. Given the USA's incompetence during the Iraq War I would rather that you guys sit the next one out, and if you did that, then there isn't really any pending war anyway. Until there is a real threat against 'fairness and injustice of humanity' I would suggest that you help re-establish the values that made the USA proud during the Second World War and the others wars that you have mentioned. Until then stop boring us with your history lessons.
01:23 October 30, 2011 by Ranger
This is another example of your Swedish Tax Kronors being flushed down the toilet by your corrupt and incompetent Swedish Court System. America is still the home of the Brave and land of the Free and you should thank your Lucky Charms that it is.
01:28 October 30, 2011 by Just_Kidding
If Julian has endangered security of the liberal world, he should be tialed for that not for "raping" his Swedish girlfriends.
03:55 October 30, 2011 by tercel

Yes the US is the ONLY country to use an atomic bomb on another country.

An estimated 200,000+ people died in the 2 bombings. In the Japanese occupation and rape of the city of Nanking China over 300,000 Chinese died. On May 23 and 25th the US Army air force using conventional weapons destroyed over 56 square miles of Tokyo and killed over 200,000 people. WAR is hell.

The US did not create the Taliban.

During the Russian occupation of Afghanistan the US funded THROUGH the Pakistan ISI the Afghan mujahideen, the Pakistan ISI diverted much of these funds to the Afghan- arabs (later known as al Qaeda). Mullah Omar and other mullahs then formed the taliban and took over most of the country. The taliban are fanatical islamist, they destroyed the national Afghan museum and the two statues of Buddhas built in the 6th century because all of it was unislamic.

America funded the taliban for 2 decades

No, the taliban was funded by Saudi Arabia and the Pakistan ISI, The Pakistan ISI through it's funding and support thought it could control Afghanistan.

Americans brought al-Qaeeda to Afghanistan

Again incorrect

The Al-qaeda organization was set up in 1989 when the Russian Army left Afghanistan. Many volunteers from Arab countries had gone to Afghanistan during the 1980s. They wanted to help the Afghans fight the invading Russian army. When the Russian army was defeated al-Qaeda was set up to continue the Jihad against people the volunteers thought were enemies of Islam.

Americans first funded Sadam in 80s with money and weapons,

Actually it started in the late 70's. The US looked at Saddam as a bulk-ward against communist Russian incursions into the Persian gulf along with the Shah of Iran. Then he discovered he could get more from the Russians. Like salman pak his WMD factory

No one EVER in the histroy of world has established control over Afghanista

I guess there are no history classes in Sweden, Alexander the great conquered Afghanistan on his way to India, India conquered Afghanistan and Afghanistan was part of India until the Moslem invasions. It was also conquered by the mongols under Genghis Khan and Tamerlane founder of the Mughal Dynasty.

So much for the history lessons.

Just for a moment sit down and think - if it were not for the US nuclear umbrella and the US - Russian doctrine of MAD (sorry you probably have never learned about Mutual Assured Destruction) without it western europe and yes Sweden would have had to spend 100's and 100's of millions on defense, which means your socialist cradle to grave society would not exist, there would not be enough money for both. So keep drinking your left wing socialist anti American kool-aid, I'll be willing to bet when islam takes over Sweden and sharia law is the law of the land (and NO the muslims will NOT be nice to you, they are never nice to non believers) you will be on the first plane to Minnesota.
04:16 October 30, 2011 by hawkeye ajustralia
The question keeps getting asked what is America doing for the world now?

Well there is Obama administration's $63 billion Global Health Initiative and US foreign aid in the last 3 years is over $100 billion.

The US pledged iniated by George Bush $19 billion for aids in the third world.

The Obama administration's $63 billion Global Health Initiative and US foreign aid in the last 3 years is over $100 billion.

The U.S. commitment to combat infectious diseases has saved lives and reduced human suffering throughout the developing world. Through the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), for example, the U.S. supports lifesaving treatment for over 1.7 million people worldwide and has enabled 200,000 children to be born HIV-free. The 2008 reauthorization of PEPFAR expands the U.S. commitment to $48 billion over 5 years to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria.

The US will contribute $105 million dollars for this year for aid to Somaia.It has already given $73 millioneven though in the last two weeks America has gotten close to a default on her credit.Your friends China and Russia haven't given a cent and China holds something like $12(?) trillion of US dollars.

America is a also the major contributor by far in feeding over 100 million peopl in 77 of the world's poorest countries.

More than than 200,000 US Peace Corps volunteers have worked in third world countries all over the world.

The US Navy ensures world wide that the sealanes remain free for international trade. That means Sweden can get Saab car exports from China with no worries. China incidentally is claiming the entire South China Sea as it's own and threatening her neighbours ,including Vietnam and they have ask the US for help. Don't think we will see any Swedish ships in the fray when push comes to shove though.

The US also keeps her huge military around the world to combat terrorist and rogue countries, some who are seeking to build bio, chemical and nuclear weapons. America also has stationed something like 48,000 troops in harms way on the South/North Korean border for the last 60 years. America lost 50,000 young soldiers when North Korea invaded South Korea. Are the South Koreans grateful? Hell no.

This is just a verys mall part of what your despised America does for the world -of course you would never know it in Europe where your little socialist poisoned minds can only think of what America might do that doen't fit in to your Swedish P C "all cultures are equal except American" agenda.Oh and America has been awardered 326 + Nobel Prizes, mostly in science, chemistry, engineering and medicine. All these to make your lives better and healthier.

So someone -answer the question-What has Sweden done for the peace and security of the world at any time in history? Maybe all you Swedes can do is rubbish the one country that actually accomplishes anything worthwhile.And if you can't answer the question then that just proves it.
05:10 October 30, 2011 by Nomark
@Kenny W

Very weak :) - the absence of a statement does not imply that I disagree with that statement. Are you seriously putting that forward as an argument ?

Also, try not to be so emotional. How do you know I "despise" lefties ? Where do I write that ?

It seems to me that you're ascribing views you would like me to have since it makes it easier to put forward your strawman arguments ?

Please don't waste my time. I'll defend anything I've written. I can't be expected to defend that which I haven't written. If I haven't written something then please don't make it up.
06:41 October 30, 2011 by hawkeye ajustralia
The funniest post made to date is kenny w "claim that "To tell you the truth I am one of those ignorant lefties that you despise so much. I was bored and I had no patients of writing a honest blog so I set out just to see how much ranting crap I could entice out of Hawkeye Ausjraltian. That was entertaining and my fellow readers of this blog got to learn a heaps of interesting stuff, and he is still writing."

What's funny about this grandiose egotistical piece is not the fact that he had no " patients"-he must be a doctor- but the fact was he didn't "entice" me anywhere because I did not even read his first post.Sorry sport jokes on you.

Now here we get serious.Notice how this "ignorant lefty" his words...(and yes I do despise these people who sell out their own culture and country to third world tribes people) places great emphasis on the war in the Middle East. This has nothing to do with Sweden and he like the other leftists around the world ranting about American imperialism etc. could care less about the Iraqi or Afghanistan people or "military contracts awardered to certain politicians "or the "valuable money away from the American people". What rubbish.What the hell has any of this got to do with anyone in Sweden?


You have already told us that it does not necessary have to be about justice or fairness. So what will be the reason for the next conflict? "That's funny, I don't rember saying anything about that.

"Given the USA's incompetence during the Iraq War I would rather that you guys sit the next one out, " Incompetence? They had complete mastery of the air within 24 hours and for all intents and purposes when a country loses the air war it's all over.And I love this part he "kenny w" would rather Americans sit the next on out.So I take it that Sweden will step in next time a country like Kuwait is invaded by another Saddam? Not Sweden? maybe Germany, Russia, France,China or the useless UN will step in - yeah right!

And here is the crux of the matter-"Until then stop boring us with your history lessons." If anyone needed a history lesson it's you kenny w because you have no clue as to how the real world works,but no one is holding a gun to your little leftist head to make you read it.

OK and now it's time to tell people around the planet what your wonderful socialist country of Sweden has done for the world-I know you can't wait to reel it all off.Let's go kenny w Just the top 20 things will do.Shame those Yankees with all those Swedish contributions.
Today's headlines
Sweden: Russian warships in the Baltic 'worrying'
Swedish Defence Minister Peter Hultqvist. Photo: Vilhelm Stokstad/TT

Two Russian warships equipped with long-range missiles have entered the Baltic Sea after passing Denmark.

Why businesses are worried about Sweden's drone ban
A drone filming in Stockholm. Photo: Pontus Lundahl/TT

The Local investigates what Sweden's new drone ban could mean for businesses in the country.

This is the new top boss of Swedish Ericsson
Börje Ekholm. Photo: Magnus Hjalmarson Neideman/SvD/TT

Telecoms giant Ericsson has appointed a new CEO after a turbulent year for the company.

These are Sweden's best universities: ranking
A new university ranking has been released. Photo: Cecilia Larsson Lantz/Imagebank.sweden.se

At least according to this global ranking, which picks 12 Swedish universities among the top-1000.

Swedish pharmacies restrict paracetamol sales for teens
The move is intended to cut paracetamol overdoses. Photo: Nora Lorek/TT

Sweden's pharmacies are banning teens under 18 from buying more than one pack of pills at a time.

The Local List
12 Swedish words with just awesome literal translations
A filthy-minded lobster, i.e. a snuskhummer. Photo: Gorm Kallestad/NTB scanpix/TT

One of our favourite things about the Swedish language is its wonderful compound words, which range from being utterly bizarre to making perfect sense.

Rwandan genocide suspect held in Sweden
A memorial centre in Kigali, Rwanda. Photo: Ben Curtis/AP

A man has been arrested in Sweden suspected of involvement in the 1994 Rwandan genocide which claimed 800,000 lives.

Sweden can extend border controls, EU says
A police officer carrying out a check at Sweden's border with Denmark. Photo: Emil Langvad/TT

EU countries including Sweden should be granted permission to extend temporary border controls by a period of a further three months, the European Commission has decided.

Nobel Prizes
'I'd say he's arrogant but I'd be lying': Swedes on Bob Dylan
Bob Dylan performing in France. Photo: David Vincent/AP

Almost two weeks have passed since Bob Dylan was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature and he has yet to acknowledge the win. The Local asked Swedes what they think of the singer's silence.

Sweden cuts 2016 refugee forecast by thousands
A Swedish migration authority office in Stockholm. Photo: Maja Suslin/TT

The country has also slashed its prediction for 2017.

Sponsored Article
Stockholm: creating solutions to global challenges
Property of the week: Kungsholmen, Stockholm
Sponsored Article
Last chance to vote absentee in the US elections
Will Swedes soon be looking for fairtrade porn?
The Local Voices
'I simply don’t believe in nationality'
Blog updates

6 October

10 useful hjälpverb (The Swedish Teacher) »

"Hej! I think the so-called “hjalpverb” (auxiliary verbs in English) are a good way to get…" READ »


8 July

Editor’s blog, July 8th (The Local Sweden) »

"Hej readers, It has, as always, been a bizarre, serious and hilarious week in Sweden. You…" READ »

Sponsored Article
This is Malmö: Football capital of Sweden
Why we're convinced Game of Thrones is based on Sweden
Sponsored Article
Where is the Swedish music industry heading?
People-watching: October 21st-23rd
Fury at plans that 'threaten the IB's survival' in Sweden
Analysis & Opinion
Are we just going to let half the country die?
Sponsored Article
Why you should 'grab a chair' on Stockholm's tech scene
Angry elk chases Swede up a lamp post
Sponsored Article
Swedish for programmers: 'It changed my life'
The Local Voices
'Alienation in Sweden feels better: I find myself a stranger among scores of aliens'
People-watching: October 20th
Sponsored Article
Top 7 tips to help you learn Swedish
The Local Voices
A layover at Qatar airport brought this Swedish-Kenyan couple together - now they're heading for marriage
Sponsored Article
‘Extremism can't be defeated on the battlefield alone’
Swede punches clown that scared his grandmother
Fans throw flares and enter pitch in Swedish football riot
Sponsored Article
Stockholm: creating solutions to global challenges
Could Swedish blood test solve 'Making a Murderer'?
Sponsored Article
Why you should 'grab a chair' on Stockholm's tech scene
Property of the week: Linnéstaden, Gothenburg
Sponsored Article
Where is the Swedish music industry heading?
Swedish school to build gender neutral changing room
Sponsored Article
One expat's strategy for making friends in Stockholm
People-watching: October 14th-16th
Sponsored Article
Nordic fashion in focus at Stockholm University
Man in Sweden assaulted by clowns with broken bottle
Nobel Prize 2016: Literature
Watch the man who discovered Bob Dylan react to his Nobel Prize win
Record numbers emigrating from Sweden
People-watching: October 12th
The Local Voices
'Swedish startups should embrace newcomers' talents - there's nothing to fear'
How far right are the Sweden Democrats?
Property of the week: Triangeln, Malmö
Sweden unveils Europe's first elk hut
The Local Voices
Syria's White Helmets: The Nobel Peace Prize would have meant a lot, but pulling a child from rubble is the greatest reward
jobs available